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The penultimate episode of Game of Thrones is the lowest rated episode in series history (critic reviews)
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Lol gurl is this worth getting that mad over? 4 and 5 are bad for different reasons. We all know why 4 was bad, but 5 provided the definite confirmation that essentially all of the plot progression and character work from season four onwards was in service of nothing. 4 as a single episode is bad in a vacuum, while 5, despite being a competent episode in a vacuum, taints practically the entire series. Literally who cares who finds which worse when this is what we're deciding between?
No of course i'm not really mad. But i do think it's absolute nonsense to say ep5 was worse than 4. I'd like to know why. Doesn't make sense.
And I've been trying to explain why lol. The why is like a microcosm for why this whole season isn't that great, which is that at some point the show has to actually give us what the supposed payoff will be, at which point we can't be in denial anymore that it might turn out any differently.
Four was a boring, incompetent, setup episode. Five was a beautiful spectacle that retroactively ruined years of foreshadowing and characterization. The difference is just one of scope. People saying four is worse are probably looking at that episode and its merits more individually, while people saying five is worse are looking more at how it actually fits into the broader picture. But one isn't more justified than the other, because endings are typically always about the big picture, they have to invoke what got them there to gain all that past momentum and resolve it to our satisfaction, only now we know for certain that that was never going to happen.
I thought episode 5 was one of if not the best of the season tbh. Touching Jaime and Cersei reunion, hot-blood action with the fights in the streets, the Hound and Arya having a nice moment together, Dany going crazy setting up for the final episode and Euron having that cool line about being the guy who killed Jaime Lannister. I mean if an episode can make me feel bad for Cersei it must be doing something right, right?
Also unrelated but it's thanks to this thread that I've learned penultimate means the second to last, my whole life I've thought it meant the last. Crazy stuff.
Also unrelated but it's thanks to this thread that I've learned penultimate means the second to last, my whole life I've thought it meant the last. Crazy stuff.
Hmn okay, i guess that's the answer i'll have to live with. Haha, don't worry, it's all good. Shame they didn't give the season more attention and more episodes. I guess we can all agree on that.
Oh shit hahahahahaDon't forget the people who got tattoos lol
Remember, Dany's original plan was to attack Kings Landing head on with 3 dragons, it was her advisors who talked her out of it. The advisors whose advice lead to constant set backs and losses and who started plotting against her behind her back. Her mentor dead, her only friend dead, her lover/cousin betrayed her, two of her 'children' dead. It's not to hard to see why she may have gone back to her original plan to destroy what she sees as personifying her families enemy, Kings Landing. Played out over 5 or 6 episodes it would have worked, but it just didn't have time to breathe and be believable.
No, it's an argument when there is clearly a bandwagon people are jumping on and the mentality has arisen where it's cool to hate on GOT now. If you see my post history you will see I am not uncritical of GOT myself, but equally you will see I take issue with the dog piling and overblown/overly dramatic criticisms too (i.e. "It's the worst show I have ever watched - ever!"). It seems a lot of people had overblown expectations of GOT S8 and were too emotionally invested in it (i.e. "I have watched this series for so long, I'm furious I have wasted my time" comments) and maybe it's cos I am older and more cynical now (43) that I had few expectations of this series, no hype about it and have been able to just enjoy the ride despite the flaws.
No, but they should!
How do you distinguish between "bandwagon" hate and legitimate growing dissatisfaction with a decline in quality?
GOT is simply not as good as it once was, especially when it comes to character development (arguably it's inital greatest asset), and many people have noticed and are voicing their displeasure..
You may not be as displeased as others, but that doesn't mean their opinion is based on the opinion of others.
I've thought it was worse and worse since S5. I abhor S8. No bandwagon for me. The end of your post, hilariously, reads as "I'm less invested in the series and thus willing to overlook its obvious flaws. Why can't people who care/cared more than me do the same?"
Weird trying to invalidate the opinions of people who are/were bigger fans than you as mere hate bandwagoning. It's not all down to hyperbole; the impact of the absolute dumpstering of years of characterization in the service of wrapping things up quick so D&D can fuck off to a Galaxy far, far away on one's enjoyment is directly proportional to the investment one has put into the plot and characters on display. Those who were into the show for tits, blood, and dragons are likely pleased. Those who loved the complex characters built up through the first four seasons, shifting from villainous to heroic and everything in between, are left with remarkably little to cling to this season.
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Plus side: you can imagine the tattoo removal laser is Drogon razing the Kings Landing on your thigh!
Not gonna lie, this would look metal as fuck.
Speaking of which, showrunners made a mistake not syncing early Metallica to this.
