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Oct 27, 2017
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It's actually a reskin/update of Seawitch, a 1980 Stern EM.

I'm surprised they're limiting a huge license like this to a low-volume EM-style machine, and a reskinned EM at that.
It's a proven design, Seawitch is one of my favorite Stern Electronic tables.

Adding modern software and rules will make it a completely different experience.

These Ka-Pow collabs have developed a theme of repurposing older tables.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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It's a proven design, Seawitch is one of my favorite Stern Electronic tables.
Interesting -- I don't think I've played any of the Stern Electronics EMs. Looks like there's one at the Museum of Pinball here in Southern California, so I'll have to give it a try at the next event in January.

Edit: For the record, it looks like's it's actually a SS machine.
 
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Interesting -- I don't think I've played any of the Stern Electronics EMs. Looks like there's one at the Museum of Pinball here in Southern California, so I'll have to give it a try at the next event in January.

Edit: For the record, it looks like's it's actually a SS machine.
Correct, it's Solid State, I didn't realize it was a reskin of Seawitch when I made my original post. Early SS tables still looked and played like EMs until the ramp and multi-level innovations came.

Some of those early Sterns are pretty good. I'm also a big fan of Flight 2000 which is in TPA/SPA.

It's funny, people including myself have been begging for Seawitch on the digitalpinballfans.com forum for years but Flight 2000 remains the only Stern Electronics table Farsight has done.

I really hoped we would get more of those old games when Stern Pinball Arcade was announced but it seems at least one party in the partnership isn't interested.

Now that Farsight has lost the WMS license it would be cool if they did more. What better reason to do Seawitch now that The Beatles is coming? It would be cool to compare them and see just how diffefent the new game feels.

My biggest concern is that they will stay away from that old stuff because they can't get away with charging $10 a table like they seem to want to do going forward.

Still, it would be awesome to have Stern Electronic tables like Ali, Catacomb, Lectronamo, Star Gazer, Meteor, etc.

Seriously under-rated catalogue.

I also think a lot of Stern's are just fantastic-looking. The art is direction is strong.












 
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Oct 30, 2017
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Correct, it's Solid State, I didn't realize it was a reskin of Seawitch when I made my original post. Early SS tables still looked and played like EMs until the ramp and multi-level innovations came.

Some of those early Sterns are pretty good. I'm also a big fan of Flight 2000 which is in TPA/SPA.

It's funny, people including myself have been begging for Seawitch on the digitalpinballfans.com forum for years but Flight 2000 remains the only Stern Electronics table Farsight has done.

I really hoped we would get more of those old games when Stern Pinball Arcade was announced but it seems at least one party in the partnership isn't interested.

Now that Farsight has lost the WMS license it would be cool if they did more. What better reason to do Seawitch now that The Beatles is coming? It would be cool to compare them and see just how diffefent the new game feels.

My biggest concern is that they will stay away from that old stuff because they can't get away with charging $10 a table like they seem to want to do going forward.

Still, it would be awesome to have Stern Electronic tables like Ali, Catacomb, Lectronamo, Star Gazer, Meteor, etc.

Seriously under-rated catalogue.

I also think a lot of Stern's are just fantastic-looking. The art is direction is strong.












I remember seeing that Quicksilver at PAPA HQ, it's a real stunner. All of. Those are pretty gorgeous!

I'd never heard of this Ka-Pow before this announcement. So they worked with Stern on Barman 66 too? The name sounds familiar on the table, for obvious reasons. Was that table based off of anything as well?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I remember seeing that Quicksilver at PAPA HQ, it's a real stunner. All of. Those are pretty gorgeous!

I'd never heard of this Ka-Pow before this announcement. So they worked with Stern on Barman 66 too? The name sounds familiar on the table, for obvious reasons. Was that table based off of anything as well?
The right half of the table is identical to the original 2008 Stern Batman table based on the Nolan films and the left half is new.


 

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In the new Halloween movie, there's a brief scene where a character plays the Back to the Future pinball machine (Data East).
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Absolutely incredible..!
Yeah, it won best cutom game of the Expo.

In the new Halloween movie, there's a brief scene where a character plays the Back to the Future pinball machine (Data East).
I saw that. I wonder why they used Back to the Future? Was it just there on location or something?

If they had planned to use a pinball table they should have used one of the many horror-themed games.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Correct, it's Solid State, I didn't realize it was a reskin of Seawitch when I made my original post. Early SS tables still looked and played like EMs until the ramp and multi-level innovations came.

Some of those early Sterns are pretty good. I'm also a big fan of Flight 2000 which is in TPA/SPA.

It's funny, people including myself have been begging for Seawitch on the digitalpinballfans.com forum for years but Flight 2000 remains the only Stern Electronics table Farsight has done.

I really hoped we would get more of those old games when Stern Pinball Arcade was announced but it seems at least one party in the partnership isn't interested.

Now that Farsight has lost the WMS license it would be cool if they did more. What better reason to do Seawitch now that The Beatles is coming? It would be cool to compare them and see just how diffefent the new game feels.

My biggest concern is that they will stay away from that old stuff because they can't get away with charging $10 a table like they seem to want to do going forward.

Still, it would be awesome to have Stern Electronic tables like Ali, Catacomb, Lectronamo, Star Gazer, Meteor, etc.

Seriously under-rated catalogue.

I also think a lot of Stern's are just fantastic-looking. The art is direction is strong.












Its exactly what i want from Farsight. I want to see the old Stern, Gottlieb. Iv pass so many hours on pinside and youtube looking at what i wish they could bring, even recommanding them on FB to do that. There is so many old pinball i never played in my life, having them digitally, i would be more than happy. They have an amazing library, and they are sleeping on it. I rather see these old tables first before seeing Metallica, Maiden, etc, newer stuff. And as you said, will they still charge 10$ a table? Its a non-sence.

And its also a non-sence they are radio-silent since they lost the license. Perhaps these license are also in trouble? They could make tons of money brining these old machine, guess its not where they want to head up. Zaccaria is succesful with their old tables on Switch, mostly tables nobody never heard before, why not go the same way? Its a real headbanger.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Its exactly what i want from Farsight. I want to see the old Stern, Gottlieb. Iv pass so many hours on pinside and youtube looking at what i wish they could bring, even recommanding them on FB to do that. There is so many old pinball i never played in my life, having them digitally, i would be more than happy. They have an amazing library, and they are sleeping on it. I rather see these old tables first before seeing Metallica, Maiden, etc, newer stuff. And as you said, will they still charge 10$ a table? Its a non-sence.

And its also a non-sence they are radio-silent since they lost the license. Perhaps these license are also in trouble? They could make tons of money brining these old machine, guess its not where they want to head up. Zaccaria is succesful with their old tables on Switch, mostly tables nobody never heard before, why not go the same way? Its a real headbanger.
No doubt the newer tables like Metallica would sell so much better.

As for Farsight's radio silence, that's just their MO. They've always been terrible at communicating.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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No doubt the newer tables like Metallica would sell so much better.

As for Farsight's radio silence, that's just their MO. They've always been terrible at communicating.
Yesh sure it would, its Metallica, and tbh, a good table like that, id be happy to pay 10$ for a big license title like this one. I want Metallica and Maiden for sure, but would be very happy to see them release old stuff first, at decent price. I rather see them release 6-8 old tables at like 3-5$ than just concentrating on 1 or 2 per year at 10$ a pop.

Speaking of old table, the Iron Maiden art blow me away, but not sure about this, is this table licensed after the band? The art look very Maiden, im just not sure if its related to the metal band.
 
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Yesh sure it would, its Metallica, and tbh, a good table like that, id be happy to pay 10$ for a big license title like this one. I want Metallica and Maiden for sure, but would be very happy to see them release old stuff first, at decent price. I rather see them release 6-8 old tables at like 3-5$ than just concentrating on 1 or 2 per year at 10$ a pop.

Speaking of old table, the Iron Maiden art blow me away, but not sure about this, is this table licensed after the band? The art look very Maiden, im just not sure if its related to the metal band.
No, the old table is an original theme, unlicensed.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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No, the old table is an original theme, unlicensed.
Thanks for the info, wasent sure. It make it imo even less expensive about releasing it then, no Maiden license. Now just hoping one day Farsight just wake the fuck up and pull up their sleeves to make something happen!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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For those who were thinking like me , that new WMS tables had both new engine in all mode ( a lighter one and a realistic one depending on the type of game you were player ), well its not the case, confirmed on Zen forum by a programmer.

Solo play have the old FX engine, with some little tweak ( like increase bumper strenght )
Classic Single player arcade or tournament, got the new engine.

Think i was not alone thinking the solo play engine was feeling better than playing with older tables, its just that the WMS table are more realistic, the old engine runs pretty well simply with them. Makes me appreciate even more their old engine.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Thanks HotHamBoy for the Sterm info & pics -- it's a blind spot in my pinball knowledge from that era (I'm familiar with some of the Gottlieb stuff from that time, but that's about it). Beautiful stuff. I need to track down more Stern tables and give them a try.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Thanks HotHamBoy for the Sterm info & pics -- it's a blind spot in my pinball knowledge from that era (I'm familiar with some of the Gottlieb stuff from that time, but that's about it). Beautiful stuff. I need to track down more Stern tables and give them a try.
Yeah, their games often get over-shadowed by the Big 3 of the time (this was before Williams acquired Midway/Bally).

IMO the Stern Electronics tables have a European flavor to them that the other American pins lack.

Check out these Spanish pins from around the same period:










I literally just discovered this one from Playmatic and it's a bit of a YIKES.



 
Yeah, their games often get over-shadowed by the Big 3 of the time (this was before Williams acquired Midway/Bally).

IMO the Stern Electronics tables have a European flavor to them that the other American pins lack.

Check out these Spanish pins from around the same period:










I literally just discovered this one from Playmatic and it's a bit of a YIKES.



Wow, those also look amazing.

I see there is a Stern Pinball game on the Switch, but apparently it only includes licensed movie/rock band tables. I would love to play some of the more extravagant ones, like the ones you've been posting about. What's the closest I can get to that on Switch?
 
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Wow, those also look amazing.

I see there is a Stern Pinball game on the Switch, but apparently it only includes licensed movie/rock band tables. I would love to play some of the more extravagant ones, like the ones you've been posting about. What's the closest I can get to that on Switch?
Actually, the Stern Pinball Arcade is obsolete. All of the content was migrated to The Pinball Arcade and the TPA Stern Bundle 1 and 2 are identical to the bundles in SPA, with the additional bonus of a Stern Electronics game called Flight 2000 which is ironically exclusive to The Pinball Arcade Stern Bundle 1. Same price.

At any rate, Flight 2000 is the table you're looking for.






The Pinball Arcade:


It's a $20 bundle and they don't sell individual tables anymore, but on the plus side you also get Star Trek, AC/DC and Ripley's Believe It Or Not which are all awesome. Starship Troopers is okay, too.

It's a good value at $4 a table, I've put tons of hours into those games.
 
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Oct 30, 2017
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For those who were thinking like me , that new WMS tables had both new engine in all mode ( a lighter one and a realistic one depending on the type of game you were player ), well its not the case, confirmed on Zen forum by a programmer.

Solo play have the old FX engine, with some little tweak ( like increase bumper strenght )
Classic Single player arcade or tournament, got the new engine.

Think i was not alone thinking the solo play engine was feeling better than playing with older tables, its just that the WMS table are more realistic, the old engine runs pretty well simply with them. Makes me appreciate even more their old engine.
I mentioned this awhile back, as I kept trying to trap a ball off launch in classic single player, and wasn't able to like I was in the tournament which was consistent everyone.

Do you have a link for that forum post? I'd be curious as to what the programmer stated.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Actually, the Stern Pinball Arcade is obsolete. All of the content was migrated to The Pinball Arcade and the TPA Stern Bundle 1 and 2 are identical to the bundles in SPA, with the additional bonus of a Stern Electronics game called Flight 2000 which is ironically exclusive to The Pinball Arcade Stern Bundle 1. Same price.

At any rate, Flight 2000 is the table you're looking for.






The Pinball Arcade:


It's a $20 bundle and they don't sell individual tables anymore, but on the plus side you also get Star Trek, AC/DC and Ripley's Believe It Or Not which are all awesome. Starship Troopers is okay, too.

It's a good value at $4 a table, I've put tons of hours into those games.
Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about ^_^ Really cool table, thanks!

I can't spend $20 right now (a few games I want are coming out in November), but maybe we'll get a sale soon. If not, I'll grab it in January.
 

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Pinball FX3-Aliens vs Pinball, Walking Dead Pinball -50% (Steam Halloween Sale)

Nice pics HotHamBoy!
On the topic of Stern tables

Orbitor 1 (1982)






An attempt at a (user made) digital recreation (Visual Pinball X)

 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Pinball FX3-Aliens vs Pinball, Walking Dead Pinball -50% (Steam Halloween Sale)

Nice pics HotHamBoy!
On the topic of Stern tables

Orbitor 1 (1982)






An attempt at a digital recreation (Visual Pinball X)

My God. My heart stop and head just spin for a second, saw Pinball FX quickly and those picks of Orbitor 1, though it was the next pack reveal of FX lol. Dont make sence its Stern lol.

On the subject, god, its a table id love to try, look so wicked!
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Pinball FX3-Aliens vs Pinball, Walking Dead Pinball -50% (Steam Halloween Sale)

Nice pics HotHamBoy!
On the topic of Stern tables

Orbitor 1 (1982)






An attempt at a digital recreation (Visual Pinball X)

This is a really cool table but it's not a very good game.

My God. My heart stop and head just spin for a second, saw Pinball FX quickly and those picks of Orbitor 1, though it was the next pack reveal of FX lol. Dont make sence its Stern lol.

On the subject, god, its a table id love to try, look so wicked!
The physical gimmick would be wasted in translation to digital and then all you have left is a weak game without the novelty.
 
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I got to play the code update of Aerosmith last weekend on my friend's table. It really improves the game tremendously. If you see an Aerosmith in the wild and can find out if it's been updated, it's totally worth playing now. Everything just comes together much nicer. It's amazing how much a physical design can be completely upgraded by better modes and scoring.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This is a really cool table but it's not a very good game.



The physical gimmick would be wasted in translation to digital and then all you have left is a weak game without the novelty.
It does feel cool and at the same time very basic, but its something i need to try one day, if not possible digitaly. It just impress me how its done :)
 

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Apparently this showed up briefly on Dead Flip's Facebook page...


Not sure if it's a fake or an early leak. Would be a most excellent theme, though.
 
I imagine it will be 3 at a time.

Looking at the videos, they already have Circus Voltaire, Judge Dredd (extra rights will be needed) and Champions Pub machines in the office.

They also showed operator manuals for Black Rose, White Water, Circus Voltaire, Theatre of Magic, Arabian Knights and Attack from Mars.
 
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As much as I'd love it, and even bearing in mind that Dredd would probably be one of the easier licenses, I'm pretty sure they said they'd be focusing on non-licensed stuff to begin with.

Agreed it'll be three though. The first pack was three and I don't see why they'd change it.
 
Is it OK if I go into full noob mode in this thread? Yes? Good.

Last night I finally managed to score a multi special in Farfalla (Zaccaria Pinball). In order to do it, you have to advance the red, yellow and blue specials to the max.

Why am I so happy about this? Until I bought my Switch, I played very little pinball. Whenever I did it, I was basically just sending the ball up very randomly, trying to make the game go on for as long as possible. I had no idea how specials worked and all of those lights on the tables made no sense to me at all.



Now that I'm putting some time into it, I'm starting to get how things work in pinball tables. So, the fact that I now know how to advance the red, yellow and blue specials in Farfalla is a big deal for me -- wow, supernoob stuff here ^_^

Farfalla also has an orange special that earns you an extra ball when maxed. It's easy to do it, so I usually begin by earning that extra ball, then I proceed to light up the other specials so I can get a multi special (worth a million points). Man, pinball is way more fun when you actually know what you're doing!



Now, for a brief review: I'm really enjoying Zaccaria Pinball, those extravagant tables are great fun. I specially like the "Gift" section, where you unlock tables by collecting achievements, because that it motivates you to keep playing and trying the many different modes available for each table. Last week, I unlocked my first gift table (the Mummy one, 150 achievements) and I like it a lot, even though it's a very basic table.

You can try all tables for free, but there's a score limit and it's ridiculously low for some tables (some games will last 20 seconds). Thankfully, every month they choose a table in each category and allow players to test them with a higher score limit. Right now, the remake of Shooting the Rapids is available and it's a bit weird, because the frame rate in this particular table is really bad on Switch. Not sure what's going on, all the other tables I've tried run great.

Sadly, it looks like there aren't many players around anymore for the Switch version, since I'm not seeing much competition in the tables I've been playing...

Well, now that I've managed to get the multi special, I think I'll focus on playing Simulation mode. It's harder, with smaller flippers and... maybe it's because I'm a noob, but the game feels a bit unfair in Simulation mode? I don't know, it looks like the gap between the flippers is pretty wide.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Switch has Pinball FX3 tables on sale!

Some decent deals can be found - https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pinball-fx3-switch#add-on-content

Cross post to the Switch thread as well. :)
Can't seem to see the deals on this page... Bought two packs weeks ago, damn ! :)

EDIT : ok went on the Europen page of the game... fuck me, its at least 50% off...

Jurassic World Pack 9.99€ 4.99€
Aliens vs Pinball 9.99€ 3.99€
Core Collection 9.99€ 2.99€
Carnival & Legends 6.99€ 3.49€
 
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Switch has Pinball FX3 tables on sale!

Some decent deals can be found - https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/pinball-fx3-switch#add-on-content

Cross post to the Switch thread as well. :)
That's great! I started playing Pinball FX when you guys started that tournament with the Fish Tales table and I've been waiting on a sale to grab a few tables.

I'll probably grab the Aliens pack for me and the Jurassic Wold for my wife. By the way, where are the Bethesda tables? I can't find them anymore. EDIT: found it, it's not on sale.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Alien vs Pinball is totally worth it if you didnt get it already!

On my side, only pack im hesitating a bit is the Jurrasic One, will try them out on trials on PS4 to see if i really feel them.