I love all the tables you mentioned, too.
I prefer the table "complexity" of Medieval Madness to Attack from Mars, and by complexity I mean a mech/target or two more. Tim Kitzrow, God love him, gets a bit much on AFM.I understand the feeling that Medieval Madness might be too cluttered, but I think AFM dials it down a little too much -- everything outside of attacking the center UFO is forgettable to me, and I have to strain my feeble memory to remember the other sub-goals in the game. Compare that to Medieval Madness and Monster Bash, two games with similar design structures, yet their tasks are more varied and more memorable (at least to me). I guess if I'm going to be pounding on a table for more than five minutes then I need to have something to keep me engaged, whether it's a wider variety of activities or a more action-oriented layout.
Yeah I love AFM, one of my faves, too. You and me against the wor...I place AFM above all of the tables you listed without batting an eye.
It's a perfect pinball table.
Actually. You've got a lot of suspect nominations. Even just among Brian Eddy tables I think you'd have a hard time finding someone who thinks Monster Bash is better than Attack From Mars.
Oh, nm then.
The main Aliens table is the one I've played the most and might be the best of the pack, but the other are also really good!
Oh man, I hate you so much! ^_^ I would love to see a real Farfalla table. It's so extravagant, it must be great to have one right in front of you.Do you have the reimagined Farfalla table? I play on that, saw your score I think on there. I need to buy the original. I freaked out when I saw it at PAPA HQ a few weeks ago, before they closed their doors. Probably the first Zacarria I've played in person, or at least knew that I was playing, haha, at the time!
Honestly, I've mostly played Time Machine (because it's free) and Farfalla. Since I was a total noob until a few weeks ago, I chose to play Farfalla non-stop so I could learn some basic pinball concepts. I would say I "graduated" a few days ago, when I finally managed to get a multispecial, so now I'll start playing other tables more frequently.
Yes. I've noted in this thread before, but he used to have four but I found out today he's added a fifth game to the bunch. His first purchase was a Ghostbusters Pro, which is phenomenal. The next was one a friend of his purchased and put at his house because he had no room. That one is an EM called Old Chicago. Some months later he bought Aerosmith Pro from a local arcade operator. He got a really good price on that one is my understanding, and with the code update it's really turned into an amazing game now. Houdini he bought earlier this year, and as I noted, it's hard, but fair. The scoring takes some getting used to in an era of multi-millions and billions of points!
Yeah, they're all good. I even like that The Pinball Arcade gave exposure to the older EM pins to a generation that might have never seen one otherwise; some of my favorite pre-eighties tables include Centaur, Genie, and Centigrade 37.I think there's a difference between saying a game is an undeniable all time great, and the best ever. Hopefully everyone would give a different answer to that, thus variety! For me, I kinda prefer the holy trinity of Popadiuk, though World Cup Soccer, speaking of Kitzrow is nice too, just not as fantasy/fantastic based as Theater/Arabian and Cirqus. Those tables just exude so many incredible design levels that I don't feel exist on other tables, quite in the same way. Medieval and AFM seem more zany, over the top, and cartoonsish for me, to be considered "the best". There's something so classical and standard about TOTAN, like it's a template of that era, in so many ways.
But again, best ever? Nah. Not fore anyway. There is no such thing. Just so many lovely games to enjoy, thankfully!
Just to butt in here a little bit, but I've only played the original Farfalla (digitally), and not the remake. It's rather brutal if you're used to more modern tables, but I chalk that up to being a product of its time.
Damn straight! EXCITE!
Oh yeah, Robot is really cool ^_^ I'm also considering getting it next week.Just to butt in here a little bit, but I've only played the original Farfalla (digitally), and not the remake. It's rather brutal if you're used to more modern tables, but I chalk that up to being a product of its time.
And for some reason I get a big doofy grin whenever I think of Zaccaria's Robot. The pop-up "robot invasion" reminds me of a bad '50s late-nite sci-fi movie every time I see it.
What a fantastic post! So glad to see you and your family were able to head out, and play some of these buggers in real life! One day I hope you get to play some of these classic Williams/Bally 1990's tables, and some Jersey Jack's too!As I've mentioned before, I only recently became a pinball lover thanks to the digital pinball platforms on Switch, so I have next to zero experience with real pinball machines.
Of course I'm now super interested in playing real machines, but it's hard to find them here in Rio de Janeiro. Pinside only references Barra Shopping, so I went there yesterday with my wife and kid. They have the following tables, all from Stern:
- Avatar (Pro)
- The Rolling Stones
- Transformers (Pro)
- Tron: Legacy (Pro)
Sadly, Spiderman (apparently the best one) and Tron: Legacy were shutdown for some reason, probably defective. I hope they fix them.
Avatar was a waste of money for us, as it drained balls pretty quickly. As soon as we finished, a guy came up with a few friends and they gave it a try. They also failed miserably and looked very angry ^_^
It's no wonder the replay score is so low for the Avatar table...
I've heard it's a great machine once you get the hang of it. Any of you played it?
Transformers isn't exactly great, but it's fun to play and way, way easier than Avatar, so I had some fun with it.
Our favorite was The Rolling Stones. Even though I like the band, It's fun to shoot balls at Mick ^_^
My wife playing The Rolling Stones
You activate some specials by shooting the ramps multiple times. The machines at Barra Shopping are a bit expensive to play, but they have a low replay score (7.900.000 for The Rolling Stones), so we both managed to get replays at this table. We played it a few times and we want to go back to it in the near future, it was great fun!
Oh cool! You're buds with one of the guys in Head 2 Head? That's the link I posted above! My friend has been digging their stuff lately, and she's the one that found and sent me their Houdini/interview with the programmer Josh.I haven't played any American games yet, but my mate Marto from the Head 2 Head Pinball podcast has streamed Houdini a bunch of times and even appears in it as an Australian prison guard or something. They look very well built and I'm keen to see how they "feel". Hopefully a bit more solid than I'm used to with Stern, they look like there's no expense spared!
With any luck it will make an appearance at FlipOut 2018, which I'll be going to at least for one of the two days. Jersey Jack will be there (he's flown to AU several times over the last few years) and there's supposed to be another special guest as well...
PS. Don't stress about owning a new machine and not having the knowledge about keeping one. Having a new machine should basically look after itself (apart from said cleaning and maybe an adjustment or two). I'd recommend getting an older 80s Williams game, they're great for seeing how machines are put together because of how relatively simple they are. I cut my teeth on High Speed and it was perfect for learning maintenance/upgrading etc.
Yeah, don't get a fixer-upper as a first machine. Learning maintenance is okay on an older machine if it works when you get it, but I don't think it's a good idea to get something you'd need to get working as a starter. Especially something as intense as any playfield repairs.
I've been into pinball for 5 or maybe 6 years now, ever since I accidentally qualified for a Metallica pinball tournament at a PAX event here in AU. Since then I caught this bug, went to Texas Pinball Festival and entered a bunch of competitions here in Melbourne. This is what my current lineup looks like, though this photo is from the last place I lived:
Oh, great! Motivation to keep playing Farfalla in simulation mode!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916520-farfalla/faqs/1443This is a fairly simple game. Hit targets, score points, advance
toward a jackpot payoff (Multi Special), and start again. The key to a
high score is keeping the ball in play, and collecting Extra Balls.
Keep the Outlanes lit for "React" at all times, as the ball goes in
there a lot, and it is quite possible to shoot from one Outlane
directly into the other. The Yellow targets are lucrative, but after
21 drop targets have been hit, the Special Bonus is lit and must be
collected before the Ramp can be lowered again.
Mine too. Didn't hurt that I had this (impeccably maintained) in my college dorm back in the day.
Okay, I admit I'm tempted by Bethesda there...
Agreed. I've still got Pinball Arcade on my iPhone, but I have to admit I respect PBFX for their work so far (censorship aside) and love their use of HD Rumble on the Switch.
wish the bethesda pack was on the webstore - would like to have it downloaded when I get home.
I quite like the portal table.
Thanks a lot for this, Factory 1.21 and HotHamBoy !The Hot Hamster has posted some Zen ratings in the past. But I've bought all the tables now on sale and I've found enjoyment in all of them. But I'm not a very serious pinballer.
Update: This was intended to be a reply to OrakioRob 's post above but I forgot to hit reply.
They're fairly cheap, and won't be on sale anytime soon again Just buy em' up, rather than Jones for them down the road and buy at full price.
Let us know if you end up finding and playing any games in the wild! This is exactly why Zen and the Pinball Arcade are so valuable in pushing pinball out and to the public in New and accessible ways.Got obsessed with Pinball FX3 the past couple days - once you learn all the terminology and how the tables actually work it's really addicting! Been playing mostly PC but also downloaded it on Switch so I can play in bed lol. Only been playing the free tables so far but I bought Iron & Steel and The Force Awakens packs on PC, so I'm excited to dig into those tables. This also really makes me want to play IRL pinball more. I know of a few places in the DC area that have tables but I've only really played casually before without knowing what I was doing at all.
https://www.jambase.com/article/primus-pinball-machine-limited-edition-customPrimus teamed with Stern Pinball to create a custom pinball machine being sold in a limited edition of 100. Primus members Les Claypool, Tim “Herb” Alexander and Larry “Ler” LaLonde will sign each of the band’s classic style pinball machines.
Featuring original artwork by Zombie Yeti and Zoltron, the Primus pinball machines will also showcase custom voice-overs recorded by Claypool. The machines will also come with a 13-song Primus tracklist and an upgraded Kenwood sound system. Head here to purchase a Primus custom pinball machine while supplies last.
Eh, for the sort of people who it's targeted towards (the people who say "oh, they still make pinball machines?"), it's fine. Hell, I'm actually stoked they're going for a classic layout, Stern is just a fan layout factory these days so anything that's different I'm happy with.