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The Promised Neverland |OT| Minerva's Den
- Thread starter Stowaway Silfer
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Yeah, really great art in this one. I love the timing of this flashback arc
There's a female Norman actually and an older jrpg Ray.
And well, Emman too.
Cool designs, i really like them, but hope this doesn't become messiah trope or reincarnation/chosen ones bullshit.
Her plan is to give all the demons the cursed blood, so they don't have to eat humans anymore. By having the food supply vanish in the blink of an eye, the demons will have to consent to Emma's plan to survive.
The problem remains is Norman, who's bent on genocide.
no way this series last into 2020.
Feels pointless even following through with norman since emma is already making the deal and all. Will she just give up her, norman, and ray, for the future?
Feels pointless even following through with norman since emma is already making the deal and all. Will she just give up her, norman, and ray, for the future?
Emma would never accept that. I can see her sacrificing herself in some way or other though.
Also, Lambda fucked up!
Guess emma trades her future. Seems the type of deal the dude would make.
Weird thing to do for hayato. I thought he was just a goofy incompetent goofball. It's what I loved about him.
Still that traitorous panel when he was behind son and gilda. Wow.
Weird thing to do for hayato. I thought he was just a goofy incompetent goofball. It's what I loved about him.
Still that traitorous panel when he was behind son and gilda. Wow.
That's one of the best "behind you!"s I've seen in ages.
Still, it's kind of dumb that Don and Gilda didn't seem to have anything prepared for when Hayato betrayed them, but maybe we'll see something later.
Still, it's kind of dumb that Don and Gilda didn't seem to have anything prepared for when Hayato betrayed them, but maybe we'll see something later.
This was just not the time to subvert expectations by having those from lambda suffer from seizures. Like wouldnt they have taken their medicine before engaging the enemies? Senseless writing.
Still glad Hayato cares for his friends enough to abandon the fight immediately.
Its clear we're going to the end since the converge on the imperial capitol is bringing all three groups to the same spot immediately.
Thinkint its not lasting beyond Spring 2020 at the latest.
Still glad Hayato cares for his friends enough to abandon the fight immediately.
Its clear we're going to the end since the converge on the imperial capitol is bringing all three groups to the same spot immediately.
Thinkint its not lasting beyond Spring 2020 at the latest.
Sung-Joo? That's how they translate Sonju in the fan translations? lol
Norman definitely has something hidden. He can't be the only one without noticeable experimentation. Maybe an insanely enhanced intellect or something.
I wonder if the Lambda people go nuts if they're off the meds. A mirror version of demons becoming human by eating humans; they become demons without the meds.
I wonder if the Lambda people go nuts if they're off the meds. A mirror version of demons becoming human by eating humans; they become demons without the meds.
I wonder about Adam though... Did he have his meds at Goldy Pond? How is that going to be explained?
Well, if my idea of the Lambda people mirroring demons is correct...
I think he may have needed to eat demon meat, maybe the wild ones since they couldn't kill the nobles at Goldy Pond
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omg Oliver is my knight in shining armor who arrived upon a trusty steed, sighs. He's so dreamy.
if plot causes Norman to die because of human experimentation worst manga ever.
if plot causes Norman to die because of human experimentation worst manga ever.
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I was curious about people's thoughts on Norman's return but I checked the date for that chapter's release, went back to the beginning of this thread and it turned out I had created the thread a few weeks too late for there to be discussion about that.
So I'd like to ask: How did you feel when Norman was revealed to be alive? How do you feel about it now and the usage of his character since?
I liked it at the time and I like what's been done with his character since, becoming a beloved leader and now serving as somewhat of an antagonist. And the reveal last chapter of him being sick is interesting as well. Probably dying by the end of the series and depending on what Emma offered for the promise, Ray may be the only one left by the end which would be interesting considering he was the most self-sacrificing at the start.
So I'd like to ask: How did you feel when Norman was revealed to be alive? How do you feel about it now and the usage of his character since?
I liked it at the time and I like what's been done with his character since, becoming a beloved leader and now serving as somewhat of an antagonist. And the reveal last chapter of him being sick is interesting as well. Probably dying by the end of the series and depending on what Emma offered for the promise, Ray may be the only one left by the end which would be interesting considering he was the most self-sacrificing at the start.
It's funny how Norman was essentially reintroduced twice. The first reveal of his situation was pretty good though it was maybe a but sudden/out of place where it was in goody pond arc. It also kind of returned the vibe of the first arc which I liked even if his escape(?) was off screen.
As for the Norman as he is now I'd say his character/pending ideology clash with Emma is the most compelling thing in the series. I'm not sure if really have been invested in any character/character development in this series since maybe Yugo. Emma does change to get to the point of wanting to save all demons but that was kind during the timeskip (leading to them cutting to that same shot from when they were in disguise in town to back up Emma's stance lol). Ray is more or less just following Emma since the escape. The scale of this final stretch is pretty big, but mostly just interested to see how emma/Norman reconcile (or whatever happens with them) so to that extent I'd say Norman's "turn" has been essential to my enjoyment of the series.
That's a good point; I don't think there'd be much to grasp onto in this series right now outside of monster politics if it weren't for the ideological war between Norman's faction and Emma's faction.
Neither reintroduction of Norman's bothered me, but I feel like the second made the first wasteful. They shouldn't have explicitly shown that Norman was still alive if the Minerva twist reveal was going to happen. They could have filled in the rest after that. It just made that reveal much less effective, when we otherwise would have been just as surprised as the main characters after so long we'd have practically forgotten.
Norman's cool, though. His return didn't feel cheap, and he's obviously a driving force in the plot afterwards.
Neither reintroduction of Norman's bothered me, but I feel like the second made the first wasteful. They shouldn't have explicitly shown that Norman was still alive if the Minerva twist reveal was going to happen. They could have filled in the rest after that. It just made that reveal much less effective, when we otherwise would have been just as surprised as the main characters after so long we'd have practically forgotten.
Norman's cool, though. His return didn't feel cheap, and he's obviously a driving force in the plot afterwards.
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I agree that right now Emma vs Norman is the most interesting thing. And I like the way it's come about because for a while I didn't like Emma's "kill no humans" attitude because it seemed disingenuous and so once her experience led her to the conclusion of not killing demons either, I was happy and it felt fitting but now it clashes against Norman's view who understandably still sees demons as inherently bad due to not being able to share in Emma's experiences. It's cool to have his return highlight the way the people he knew have changed and not just make it all a perfect situation where everyone gets along.
I never thought about this. Norman being Minerva 2 would've indeed had a bigger impact if the his time at Lambda wasn't shown first. I wonder why we did get the Lambda thing first then if the escape from Lambda wouldn't be shown as its own arc. The thought that initially came to mind was that it serves to suggest Norman being active again in the series later so the reader can keep that in mind, but we already kinda got that with Adam repeating the numbers of Norman's code during the Goldy Pond arc.
I dont know felt like we jumped way too fast into all of this. like we're already in front of the queen in just one chapter.
Well we're going through things fast, Actually felt a little something something for the antagonists here. Wow.
Still really suspenseful. Loved that I got to see Oliver again. I missed you. And oh nice, Hayato is still there on the good side.
I feel the same, but to be fair, it's not a problem of the author. The designs are different. I feel we as audience don't care enough.
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Do y'all have new OT title suggestions? Given that we're out of Norman's base now. If you do I can have a mod change it.
Too fast, I wanted Lord Geelan to get a chance to revive.
Queen was ultra powerful, this manga loves its ultra powerful and intelligent femchars. Nice.
Now hope Normans plan can do something about her.
Queen was ultra powerful, this manga loves its ultra powerful and intelligent femchars. Nice.
Now hope Normans plan can do something about her.
Surprised Norman's group is taking no casualities or anything. With how earlier in the story folks could die, it seems weird that even Barabara has survived this chapter.
Brutal biological warfare. Brutal genocide.
Brutal biological warfare. Brutal genocide.
I'm gonna assume a fresher dosage of Mujika's blood can save the poisoned demons. Also, time to maybe see what Zaz has been hiding under that bag. I'm guessing a demon face. I still think the Lambda folks are some kinda demon hybrids (including Norman, in the most subtle way they could do)