I'm gonna laugh so hard if there's a Director's Cut of Rise of Skywalker that's conveniently as long as two movies and everyone just goes from The Force Awakens to Rise of Skywalker and skips The Last Jedi entirely.
The Rise of Skywalker Review Thread: The Sheev Saga Comes to a Close [No Spoilers] (Rottenwatch: 55%; 10% below AOTC) [SEE STAFF POST]
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Sure it is, that's why RT uses that as the Fresh/Rotten cut off
If 4/10 critics don't like your movie, then it failed in some way.
Obviously you can disagree and love a movie that gets reviewed poorly, but that's what the scale is set to.
I’m aware.
I wouldn’t recommend people see this movie based on the movie.
The only recommendation for seeing it that I can give is because you saw episodes I through VIII and want closure.
The film does that. On its own merits though. Hard pass.
Do you really need closure on the first 6 films when ROTJ teased nothing of the future and had a climactic ending?
An extended edition is not going to fix its problems. This is a script level issue.
Good point.
I’ll amend it to say “recommended viewing if you needed closure to The Force Awakens”.
I have not seen the movie yet but while watching any JJ Abrams movie count how many times a character is allowed to finish a sentence/thought without being interrupted by another person or event.
That depends on how positive the positive reviews are. If 4 people hate it, five people are extremely meh on it, and one person thought it was better than sex, that's not reviewing well.
Mostly loved the movie, though with a couple caveats. Still, my third favorite in the franchise, though some scenes I liked as much as anything that came before.
I see were at the phase of the review thread where we people question aggregate scores as a measure of quality just because they can't wrap their heads around the idea that their tastes do not line up with reviewers...
So for the first hour or so I couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about. Sure the pacing was off but I was having fun and it felt like Star Wars to me. Then we get into the last 40 or so mins and it all starts to fall apart. It's clear JJ was trying to put his episode 8 and 9 into one movie. And as much as I hated the TLJ you just can't do that. The movie really starts to buckle under the weight of it all. By the end I was laughing at stuff that wasn't necessary bad ideas but it was just too hard to take seriously and did not feel earned. Also I fucking love Palpatine but he felt very out of place in this movie. So I didn't totally hate this movie but I didn't like it very much either.
I bet you didn't like the prequels either?
I think I can pretty much write off the opinions of people who "hate" any movie in the series, says any are "abysmal", "trash", "garbage", "lol", "boring", "I was falling asleep", "trainwreck", "a mess", hates the prequels, hates the ST, hated TLJ, says JJ or Lucas are "hacks", "untalented", "Star Wars was never good", "I like the memes", "I laughed at ______" or whatever hyperbolic negative fan wank I've heard since Episode 1.
Doesn't leave too many people does it?
Edit: another shining example
The only amazing thing is this hyperbole.
No, when you limit yourself to listening only to the opinion of people who think terrible movies are good, you don't have a lot of opinions left. Weird how that works.
But was any of it as bad as casino planet? Or Poe and Laura Dern’s entire miscommunication arc bullshit In TLJ? (God that movie was hard to get through)
Sure did. Also please write my opinion off if it means you'll stop quoting me in every thread to complain about people having a different opinion than you and how you cant stand that anyone dares not like something you enjoy.
I don't give two shits what people enjoy, what I don't like is the same parroted bullshit about any of these movies being "terrible" or "some of the worst movies ever made". It's hyperbole and the people saying it know it, or they've ONLY seen movies SO fucking amazing that these movies are all "terrible".
Terrible must be the fucking coolest word on the internet.
I've been pretty clear that the ridiculous claims and flippant dismissals are what annoy me.
I like how calling something boring and laughing at poorly executed parts is now a bridge too far.
Can we have a list of negative adjectives we're allowed to use if we don't enjoy a movie? Or are only positive impressions allowed since a lot of people worked on it and you liked it?
aka obnoxious and annoying. I don't wanna hear some dickhead laughing when such an such moment happens in the movie. I didn't pay money to hear some dude who loves memes laugh at shit.
Someone better not laugh during my viewing, everyone better shut the fuck up unless the moment is intended comedic relief.
New review from Peter Bradshaw (my favorite film reviewer) who I just happen to agree with perfectly:
Bro what is this.
Literally nobody can voice negativity about the movies with this blacklist.
Bad but in different ways. The bad stuff in this movie is more like "hey you just completely pulled that out of your ass but okay!"
The fuck?
Any words we're still allowed to use to criticize these movies?
That would be because they aren't. The only way to gauge that is reading the reviews.
Exactly, another reason using the tomatometer or average score isn't worth much.
So again I'll state, you have an issue with people having a different opinion than you. Youre annoyed people feel strongly enough to use those words because you don't think theyre being genuine and are being hyperbolic. But thats an assumption on your behalf because you think there is some measure that makes movies/shows not as bad as they suggest, despite that its all opinion.
And you say you don't care but the crux of your posts in these threads have been to complain about people who have issues with the movies and people you work with doing the same. Its just a very silly thing to be getting upset or complaining about. Like its hilarious you think using the English language is somehow automatically hyperbole
I can't tell if youre a real person or a very clever troll and if its the latter I am honestly super impressed because this is great work.
What's this then?
So not only are we not allowed to dislike the movies, but we can't even like the fucking memes? They're highly enjoyable and some of them are genuinely creative!
Edit: People can't even laugh at things they find funny? You must have been so mad at the crowd's reaction to Yoda's flips in AotC.
It sounds like you just want people to like the movies in the same exact way you do. That's boring as hell.
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It's not really the audience's fault if they laugh out loud at "NOOOOOOOOO," some things are involuntary.
Maybe the problem is instead that those things were in the movie in the first place.
I never imagined in my wildest guesses the film would be under 80%, let alone "rotten". I thought for sure the film was too big to fail and the series would play it safe enough to - if not be great - at least be middling enough to please as many viewers and critics as possible.
I CERTAINLY never thought we'd see the "big finale" score lower than Attack of the Clones. It's surreal.
I CERTAINLY never thought we'd see the "big finale" score lower than Attack of the Clones. It's surreal.
Sure they can. Plenty of people who don't like the prequels I've left alone. When people bring ridiculous language into the conversation then I'll react strongly.
Nope. "Some of the worst movies ever made" is bullshit so I'll treat it as such. It's hyperbole.
Did you even read what I said about the guys I work with?
One dude READS REVIEWS of movies and tries to have discussions about them with me, someone who's fucking SEEN THEM.
Why is it hyperbole. Maybe lets start there. I want to know how you arrived at that conclusion.
"Boring" is ridiculous language? Acknowledging that they like the memes?
Even hating a movie is not ridiculous.
The only thing ridiculous was your post and your attempt to tone police people.
Those hyperbolic descriptors exhausted your vocabulary?
Trash? Garbage? Trainwreck?
JJ is not a person you use for more than one movie. Even if all three films were directed by the same person, the same issues would happen if it was JJ at the helm. Star Trek and Into Darkness kind of proves JJ just cannot make sequels.
Almost finished with my rewatched, only TLJ remains. Then I'll probably watch TROS I guess, I'm in no rush lol
Man you are doing the most in this thread like damn
Say what you want, I never said you couldn't, but I'm free to respond to the stuff people say.
Wanna throw out nonsense like "worst movies ever made" then I get to react to it.
Ok but lets deconstruct why youre reacting to it by calling it hyperbole. Why is it hyperbole?
"Boring" and "a mess" are hyperbolic descriptors according to you?
If you just don't want to read any criticism then find an echo chamber or put everyone on ignore and make your own. Nobody needs you tone policing over Star Wars movies.
Anyways, movie was trash. A total garbage trainwreck.
The echo chamber comes from people exaggerating how bad Star Wars is since 1999 but okay.
Cuz they're not some of worst movies ever made and we all know it?Ok but lets deconstruct why youre reacting to it by calling it hyperbole. Why is it hyperbole?
Yes. Trash, awful, garbage, trainwreck, what a nuanced criticism.
Good talk.
Ok so youre not actually ok with other's opinions on the movie then since youre trying to suggest they aren't serious with their posts when they are. I also am not sure anyone said this was the worst movie ever made either.
Dismissive parroted quips about how hilarious it is that these movies suck.
So funny! Haha I criticized something everybody! Get it? No one's ever made fun of Star Wars since 99!
So funny! Haha I criticized something everybody! Get it? No one's ever made fun of Star Wars since 99!
Arguing with the very idea of art criticism because people didn't like the most recent JJ Abrams Disney movie.
The prequels are absolutely among the worst movies ever made. The only positive they have going for them is that they were very expensive and at times looked pretty good, but on the whole didn't. They are poorly written, directed, acted, and shot. They have poor stories with inconsistent characters and almost completely lack any sort of narrative structure.
The prequel movies are terrible boring messes. These are all accurate descriptors for such expensive movies that succeed at nothing of note.