People just were not interested in a Solo movie. The reviews for it were ok.
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The Rise of Skywalker Review Thread: The Sheev Saga Comes to a Close [No Spoilers] (Rottenwatch: 55%; 10% below AOTC) [SEE STAFF POST]
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Well, if Disney made any correct calls with this film at all, it was dumping Trevorrow. Don't want to think about what that might have been, but I feel like this will be at least fun and sparkly. Gotta stop reading reviews, but there's a stupid part of me that keeps going back to them since I know I won't get to see it for a week or so.
I doubt it. If anything I expect the next wave of Star Wars content to make this trilogy look even worse by comparison.
Which is pretty funny considering he's a much bigger Star Wars fan than Star Trek.
This thread might beat the BvS one on gaf. I'm dead over here.
Maybe Rose should have shouted and clapped her hands when she made her point.
I don't think so at all, outside of those who like it now. As now all TLJ haters will blame it for TROS, if they don't like it. There is still some signs/hope it's a crowd pleasing movie though. Ala Joker which is 68% on rt.
He says that Rey is OP in this film.
Oh no I can already see the wars that will happen over that.
I think we you're dealing with a 42-year-old story with characters people are already invested in, it's much harder to please everyone.
Seems like almost every review is a 3/5 at the moment, with them either sounding a bit positive or a bit negative
Both Lion King and Aladdin are rotten and came out this year and it's not the first
I was thinking this this morning.
I feel like a lot of people have forgotten we almost got a Trevorrow Star Wars movie which is not a world I want to live in.
I know! It goes to show that someone being a huge fan of something doesn't mean they're always the best person for the job. Sometimes you need that distance.
Which finally, definitively proves that Star Trek > Star Wars! :D
Not really. Despite what the typical crew might think I'm mostly tepid on The Last Jedi and I can't see that changing even if this film retcons literally everything from that film.
Could it have been meaningfully worse? At least it may have been horribly interesting.
Into Darkness is insulting on a social level and hot garbage on an entertainment level.
I can appreciate it for killing SW for a few years, so I'll likely be grateful for that.
It still wasn't a great movie.
I rmr when people complained about how broke Starkiller was in The Force Unleashed games. That again but now with "mary sue" arguments is gonna make discussion annoying for the next few years
People on Era complain that reviewers don't use the full review scale, then we get posts like this one where people don't seem to know how to use something other than extremes: Everything's either the absolute worst or the best, there's no other way to describe things, apparently.
Oh I think it could of been worse, and this is someone who actually enjoyed both Jurassic World movies.
Gotta say, reading the reviews are at least entertaining!
Time: "This overloaded finale, directed by J.J. Abrams, is for everybody and nobody, a movie that's sometimes reasonably entertaining but that mostly feels reverse-engineered to ensure that the feathers of the Star Wars purists remain unruffled. In its anxiety not to offend, it comes off more like fanfiction than the creation of actual professional filmmakers. A bot would be able to pull off a more surprising movie."
Slate: "The Rise of Skywalker gives people what they go to Star Wars for, but that's all it does—and worse, all it sets out to do. It's frenzied, briefly infuriating, and eventually, grudgingly, satisfying, but it's like being force-fed fandom: Your belly is filled, but there's no pleasure in the meal. The movie feels like it's part of the post–Last Jedi retrenchment, when Disney jerked the leash on Solo and killed plans for future spinoffs by insisting that filmmakers stick to the established playbook. It's of a piece with the pointedly unambitious The Mandalorian, just good enough to get people's attention but fundamentally terrified of rocking the boat. Rather than making a movie some people might love, Abrams tried to make a movie no one would hate, and as a result, you don't feel much of anything at all"
TheWrap: " Rest assured that there's nothing in this final "Star Wars" that would prompt the eye-rolls or the snickers of Episodes I-III; Abrams is too savvy a studio player for those kinds of shenanigans. But his slick delivery of a sterling, shiny example of what Martin Scorsese would call "not cinema" feels momentarily satisfying but ultimately unfulfilling. It's a somewhat soulless delivery system of catharsis, but Disney and Abrams are banking on the delivery itself to be enough."
EntertainmentWeekly: " There's always been a secret cynicism underpinning Abrams' Star blockbusters, which adrenalize the pop-est culture of his youth and avoid anything requiring originality or imagination. Now he's left grasping for source material he hasn't already replicated — and one late montage even copies a sequence added into Return of the Jedi's 1997 Special Edition. We need a new franchise designation for this stumbling, bloodless conglomeration of What Once Was. Rise of the Skywalker isn't an ending, a sequel, a reboot, or a remix. It's a zombie."
Time: "This overloaded finale, directed by J.J. Abrams, is for everybody and nobody, a movie that's sometimes reasonably entertaining but that mostly feels reverse-engineered to ensure that the feathers of the Star Wars purists remain unruffled. In its anxiety not to offend, it comes off more like fanfiction than the creation of actual professional filmmakers. A bot would be able to pull off a more surprising movie."
Slate: "The Rise of Skywalker gives people what they go to Star Wars for, but that's all it does—and worse, all it sets out to do. It's frenzied, briefly infuriating, and eventually, grudgingly, satisfying, but it's like being force-fed fandom: Your belly is filled, but there's no pleasure in the meal. The movie feels like it's part of the post–Last Jedi retrenchment, when Disney jerked the leash on Solo and killed plans for future spinoffs by insisting that filmmakers stick to the established playbook. It's of a piece with the pointedly unambitious The Mandalorian, just good enough to get people's attention but fundamentally terrified of rocking the boat. Rather than making a movie some people might love, Abrams tried to make a movie no one would hate, and as a result, you don't feel much of anything at all"
TheWrap: " Rest assured that there's nothing in this final "Star Wars" that would prompt the eye-rolls or the snickers of Episodes I-III; Abrams is too savvy a studio player for those kinds of shenanigans. But his slick delivery of a sterling, shiny example of what Martin Scorsese would call "not cinema" feels momentarily satisfying but ultimately unfulfilling. It's a somewhat soulless delivery system of catharsis, but Disney and Abrams are banking on the delivery itself to be enough."
EntertainmentWeekly: " There's always been a secret cynicism underpinning Abrams' Star blockbusters, which adrenalize the pop-est culture of his youth and avoid anything requiring originality or imagination. Now he's left grasping for source material he hasn't already replicated — and one late montage even copies a sequence added into Return of the Jedi's 1997 Special Edition. We need a new franchise designation for this stumbling, bloodless conglomeration of What Once Was. Rise of the Skywalker isn't an ending, a sequel, a reboot, or a remix. It's a zombie."
Rey is like the only bright spot in this whole mess so I'm not sure that will be the case.
This is very true. Hopefully they move away from the old characters and stories with the next movie.
I guess that's up to you. I think JJ Abrams and Colin Trevorrow are both hacks. We would age many years discussing who is worse and perhaps never come to truth.
Can't even imagine what they were thinking with that outside of simply seeing box office numbers for JW and saying "alright, seems fine." Ending the trilogy with him, though? Absolute madness.
This entire trilogy has led to endless "what ifs" for me, though. What if Abrams did the whole thing? What if Johnson did the whole thing? What if TLJ didn't have the super vocal backlash? Hell, I even wonder how things might have differed if we got some details swapped around, like Johnson doing 7 or 9 instead of 8. But then again, I'm really just entertaining (frustrating) myself with these scenarios.
For awhile I was really heavily speculating they'd drop the trilogy format and end it all on a 10th film to give it more time to breathe (or give us a XI Pt. 1 and 2, a la Deathly Hallows or something) and if these reviews tell me anything, that's exactly what should have happened.
Come on, that's harsh. It's certainly full of the usual JJ stuff but it has some cool action scenes, it looks nice and it moves at a fast enough pace to make it exciting. Both me and my brother enjoyed it for what it was, a solid action adventure.
Having seen the Book of Henry ... yes ... yes. Absolutely ... yes. And not worse in that "so bad it's interesting" way. Worse in the ... worse way.
Maybe it'll reach fresh territory?
I hope it's at least as good as Aquaman lmao
JJ should've just followed TLJ path
I hope it's at least as good as Aquaman lmao
JJ should've just followed TLJ path
OMFG ITS BVS ALL 9VER AGAIN.
Dude, we were BOTH wrong. I thought 75% was the absolute floor.
Dude, we were BOTH wrong. I thought 75% was the absolute floor.
He dared to take the figurines out of their boxes and handle them without using gloves.
You were only supposed to look at them Rian!
See, you say that and make me wonder if I should stay in the thread or go have a normal productive life this morning. But this happens...
... and I couldn't bear to leave this place lol
Solo would have done better at the box office if there hasn't been a mainline Star Wars movie that had finished its theater run 2-3 months before. In that sense, yeah TLJ is somewhat responsible for Solo's box office performance. That was too much Star Wars in too little time. Yearly releases are a bit much, and with Solo it was mere months. It's in that sense that I feel people are "blaming" TLJ for Solo's box office performance. Solo wouldn't have had a mainline Star Wars performance of course, but it's pretty safe to assume it would had a better performance if it had been longer since TLJ.
Don't take this as a defense of Solo, no one asked for that movie and it wasn't the story they should have went for another Star Wars Story movie.
Walked past a girl I had a huge crush on (and subsequently got my heart broke) on my way into the cinema.
Movie's already off to a bad start.
Movie's already off to a bad start.
Yet Solo is a better movie than any in this trilogy @ me. @ me.
Geez, the reviews are a bloodbath. Can't help but to feel that a lot of reviewers are bitter about the retconning that was done to TLJ, since TLJ seems to be mentioned in almost every negative review.
I'm not too excited for TROS, but my hype was already low even before the reviews, so the reviews didn't really change much for me. TLJ killed my hype for pretty much anything Star Wars for the time being, and that was critically acclaimed, so I'm not too worried about this one being critically panned.
I'm not too excited for TROS, but my hype was already low even before the reviews, so the reviews didn't really change much for me. TLJ killed my hype for pretty much anything Star Wars for the time being, and that was critically acclaimed, so I'm not too worried about this one being critically panned.