Actually many have. That's what makes Joker/Batman so intriguing, you would say Batman is the insane one and Joker isn't.
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The script for Joker has allegedly leaked, and it's not great
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Actually many have. That's what makes Joker/Batman so intriguing, you would say Batman is the insane one and Joker isn't.
hmm not sure how a man who dresses as a bat to fight other people in costumes over a childhood trauma could be labelled as "insane" but willing to consider it
Wouldn't be surprised if true.
Not the right character for a solo film told from his pov.
And not the right director.
Not the right character for a solo film told from his pov.
And not the right director.
Why people only do this to Batman? A teenager dressing as a spider because his uncle died is as crazy as Batman.
And nah, the idea that The Joker is "the sane one" is a pretty meh way of looking at the character. He's a villain that tortures and kill people for no reason. lol
Irrational Man
That Jesus movie he did is supposedly pretty bad
Times like wish they gave my boy a different name. He doesn't deserve to be associated with the word itself.
Just remembering it coming up in a few other threads about this film. Don't know how real these are (one's a 4chan leak FFS) and how well they sync up to what we know about the movie now...
Two clown movies coming out within weeks of each other.
I wonder what will make more money. This or IT Chapter Two.
I wonder what will make more money. This or IT Chapter Two.
Going by the trailer I thought the mother would be the most important female character...
Unless....
They're one and the same....
Oh no...
Unless....
They're one and the same....
Oh no...
It was legit another Suicide Squad situation where everyone was singing it's praises and lifting it up as a dark horse Oscar darling, and I was like "...I mean, it's got Zazie Beetz".
Whom it sounds like he kills. 🙄
Not that I have a lot of hope for this movie because Todd Phillips hasn't really impressed me in the past, but I don't really see the big issue with that spoiler plot point.
Joker is a villain and a psychotic killer, of course he kills people for a perceived slight to himself. Sure, incels and other internet weirdos might get the wrong ideas from the movie, but that is the case with every movie that ever existed that features a villainous character as the main character.
Plenty of idiots agree with characters like Tyler Durden and Robert De Niro's characters from Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy and American History X is huge with neo-Nazi groups. That doesn't suddenly make those movies bad.
Joker is a villain and a psychotic killer, of course he kills people for a perceived slight to himself. Sure, incels and other internet weirdos might get the wrong ideas from the movie, but that is the case with every movie that ever existed that features a villainous character as the main character.
Plenty of idiots agree with characters like Tyler Durden and Robert De Niro's characters from Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy and American History X is huge with neo-Nazi groups. That doesn't suddenly make those movies bad.
Something always felt off about the reveal trailer. I assumed it was one of those all-revealing trailers and it felt that they didn't give Joker enough motivation or relatable sides for me to care (guy got bullied a bit and had a messy love life, now he's a serial killer because that's the next logical next step?). If the bits and pieces coming out of this script are true... yikes.
Exactly this.
I refuse to let idiots misappropriating things ruin those things. They can't have it.
It's a character study.
Every character in this film exists solely for him and his development. That's how it works.
All of the characters exist for Joker's character arc. We can argue that's an arc that has been done before.
I mean, yes, that would be the subpoint. It's a lazy, overdone trope that needs to be dead and buried.
The trailer already frames Joker as someone misunderstood and bullied as justification of the world turning him bad.
It's Joker's version of "one bad day" in The Killing Joke, but without Gordon to refute him by saying having terrible things happen to you doesn't "turn you bad" or justify misanthropic behavior.
I don't think the movie has earned me giving it the benefit of the doubt.
It's Joker's version of "one bad day" in The Killing Joke, but without Gordon to refute him by saying having terrible things happen to you doesn't "turn you bad" or justify misanthropic behavior.
I don't think the movie has earned me giving it the benefit of the doubt.
I mean, I took from it that he's already on the edge and gets pushed over it by external factors. Pretty sure the dude antagonizes Zazie Beetz jailed husband. Doing the game of extrapolating shit from trailers is always foolish though.
Their marketing for this movie is that its applying old cliches into a comic book movie. Like I'm sure they're going to push this as a comic book movie for adults and the numerous parallels and comparisons to Scorsese.
Unless they're one and the same.....
And that's why the rejection.... 0_0
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😂😂😂
Seriously. I don't get the "nothing remotely 'problematic' can appear in movies" attitude.
How's the rest of the script, since it sounds like you know there's no one to give an alternate perspective in there. Maybe there isn't, but no one knows. So the insta-cancellation just seems so weird from this place.
So you had the same take away then?
He gets beat up by bullies twice in the same trailer. It's not hard to see what they want you to pull from it.
I was speaking on the trailer, and Drew McWeeny is obviously a person that is connected and who I don't expect to be making this up for retweets.
But how about you tell me your unbiased opinion since you seem so desperate to defend a movie you haven't seen either.
I'm saying he's a bad dude that you can feel sorry for and that doesn't mean you're endorsing him murdering people. Also I gave you evidence that he's already a shitheel since we're playing trailer detective.
It's clear you have some weird axe to grind.
I'm 95% certain we will get some variant of "we live in a society" given to us straight-faced
The guy who leaked this is credible and was the first person way back who leaked that BvS was hot garbage.