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The script for Joker has allegedly leaked, and it's not great
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I remember this happening with Passengers, which ended up..fine. People we weirdly up in arms about it.
I've never personally met anyone who lionized Tyler Durden, but I guess that's a thing?
Anyway it's a WB DC movie so it shouldn't be shocking to anyone if it hums horse cock.
Anyway it's a WB DC movie so it shouldn't be shocking to anyone if it hums horse cock.
Sounds awesome. Yes maybe incels will make it their GOAT but (shrug). I remember neo nazis loving American History X.
Just read it. That 4chan link in here is bogus.
It's not terrible. Looking forward to seeing it. It's definitely R rated.
It's not terrible. Looking forward to seeing it. It's definitely R rated.
I explained it would be easily solved. Everything is amplified when she's the only woman in the cast. You're misunderstanding me, I'm not saying they can't do this it's how they're going about this is which is problematic. Get several woman and minorities in the cast and this becomes less of an issue. Wouldn't shock me if they don't have many of either behind the scenes.
This would be bad if it was Emma Stone in the role. Where did you get the impression I didn't want Zazie Bets in the role? I'm a fan of hers. Why are jumping to the absolute worst motive?
My entire argument is about your last paragraph.
This would be bad if it was Emma Stone in the role. Where did you get the impression I didn't want Zazie Bets in the role? I'm a fan of hers. Why are jumping to the absolute worst motive?
My entire argument is about your last paragraph.
Yea the whole thing is bogus.
There's stuff in it people will hate and there's something that will be controversial, but that whole leak is BS.
It's not terrible though.
Oh wow, 4chan made up lies that were built upon scraps of rumors and the official trailer?! Nothing like that has happened before so why would they do that now?!!
The moment I've heard "Jokers origin movie" I knew I would hate it, simply because he has no origin. Dark Knight did this perfectly.
Not as extreme as people think. He's literally insane. There are those who will take it the wrong way and make him their hero.
It's him or Sosa so I'm riding with Tony just like I rode with O-Dogg in Menace 2 Society
There is nothing wrong with liking the bad guy.
Scarface makes it clear that the drug game is no joke. Everyone wanted to be Tony Montana in the 80's and 90's
Rightos.
Look i get he's a mentalist, my potential problem with it is. Those assholes.
I mean, I don't think Joker being that kind of piece of shit is a problem so much as it is the worship around his character that's hilariously stupid.
Let's see how the rest of the movie treats this. If it's as mediocre as they're implying it is then at least we have the dumb memes to fallback on lol
Are these memes real or are they just ironic? We're a good half-decade past knowing the difference unless you're in on the ground floor.
I don't get the whole incel thing. As if the internet isn't already garbage. Don't they already worship the Joker anyway? It's like me not wanting to see the punisher series because a lot those blue lives matter assholes use the logo and feel emboldened by it.
Liking a bad guy is perfectly natural but when you want to be them unironically? That's not good.
They do already worship him. But the concern that myself (and other have) are that this version will reflect their persecution complex. And by doing so validate them.
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Yep. Not sure why everyone got hyped from that incredibly average trailer. This being an average movie is the expectation you should have going in and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
Growing up in the 90's people emulates the bad guys. Specially if you messed with selling drugs.
People are afraid people are going to idolize the joker, but the people who are going to be doing that already checked out on reality long before this movie was being made. You can't blame films for pre existing problems in society.
It was a shitty thing back then, as well.
This is not a static problem, reality and film go back and forth influencing each other. It's a problem directors have had trouble reconciling for decades, so much so many feel guilty and disappointed the message didn't get through. Giving more material for deluded people to idolise the Joker isn't good for society.
And?
We should not be living our lives and curbing the creation of artistic works just because some people on the internet might take it the wrong way. Same with right wing christians, same with anyone else. Why are people so concerned about this here all the time?
So what do you suggest? We don't make certain movies because people you don't like might enjoy them?
That they do it with self awareness to make less problematic depictions. There are more options than making a movie like this and not using the Joker ever.
The thing is general audiences don't find things as problematic as you do.
I'm confused by this argument, because I would say that is the reason this movie is a bad idea
This is exactly why problematic works are a problem? They normalize harmful views to the point that people don't find them to be problematic. Like, this is exactly the point we're making?
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You're essentially asking for censorship or neutering the joker.
This is the only joker allowed now
Painted over mustache or none at all
Man, this argument that people might form a borderline psychopath interpretation on a work of fiction is enough reason to avoid it, it's the same argument we have been hearing regurgitated from ages ago, then just ban all violent media because I'm sure there might be some psycho out there that glorifies it.
it doesnt look like he becomes the joker because he is denied anything but that he is denied a happy life.
this is the straw manniest of straw man arguments. you can depict horrific things in a movie without glorifying them.