Damn, he was actually serious when he said he would listen to the poll.
e: it's not legal to posses the code right?
Damn, he was actually serious when he said he would listen to the poll.
Damn, he was actually serious when he said he would listen to the poll.
e: it's not legal to posses the code right?
Without NPCs missions etc.
There should be cultural takeover laws that says "If you don't do anything actively with an online game's code, servers, etc. etc. then all goes public domain in 5-10 years."
NCSoft isn't making a new City of Heroes, they're not making any money off it, they're not planning anything with it as far as anything has ever indicated. This goes for many online games that exists out there and has been since shut down. Games is so fucking weirdly far off from any other cultural items that exist, it's not like if a company decides to cease production of a movie/music/book/whatever it just ceases entirely to exist. It's out there and will continue to be that. Games do however because they rely on servers and shit, and there should be some change to that idiocy. If the company that owns the game refuses to open up a server, then the data should be made public at some point so others can. It can't really fucking hurt the company in any way, shape or form.
He said anything missing needs to be scrubbed of sensitive information.Without NPCs missions etc.
Seems like he wants this to blow over without actually giving everything he has
whats the reason he is giving it out now instead of keeping it a secret until it all blows over?He said anything missing needs to be scrubbed of sensitive information.
He said he would do whatever won the poll from the OP article. "Release the code" won and he seems to be doing that. He said the pieces missing contain Information that may lead back to who stole the code from NCSoft, customization to the code he wants to revert first, and personal info of every player who ever played the game. Once that is dealt with he said he will release the rest.whats the reason he is giving it out now instead of keeping it a secret until it all blows over?
They can still own the IP. They would just loose control over something like server codes so that others could keep a non-profitable thing going without any expense at all to the company who made it. :(There is a mentality that even dead IP has value, so they want to hold onto everything they can to bolster their portfolio in case they're ever purchased.
The character database contains both player characters(with personal info) and the NPC data.
At least for non multiplayer games there already is something similar to what you described in your other post.They can still own the IP. They would just loose control over something like server codes so that others could keep a non-profitable thing going without any expense at all to the company who made it. :(
Its all possible. Seems he is keeping his word!This has been really fun to watch. Here's hoping a CoH server opens in the future. Would love to hop on it again.
I'm a bit unclear on if the complete functional server files with npc's, missions and the whole shebang will be released or only the world without anything in it?
What's been playable to the public for the past few hours has been a copy of the SCoRE server that was hidden away for the past 6 years (minus some elements like Mission Architect and the auction house). Other coders have been working on the source and content databases throughout the day, but the fruits of their labor is days/weeks/months/??? away.I'm a bit unclear on if the complete functional server files with npc's, missions and the whole shebang will be released or only the world without anything in it?
If I could actually host my own little COH server only for me and and my brothers that would be amazing!
It's hard to say; the supposed rationale behind SCoRE's original secrecy was to avoid the same fate of C&D as Infinite Rasa, which was Tabula Rasa's private server effort. However, private servers for other NCSoft MMORPGs have survived without any sort of interference from the publisher, and Tabula Rasa's situation was markedly different since it was already engaged in a lawsuit at the time of the private server's existence. I would say if we're going to hear word from NCSoft, it will be Soon™.How litigious is NCsoft? With all the news around this, I don't know how long a PS will last
City of Heroes didn't start as free to play but a later update changed it so you could either play with a subscription, getting all of the game unlocked, or play free, but pay to unlock the more advanced classes and access to the endgame trials.It's a bit of a shame there wasn't a proper server emulator made into the years approaching this point. I have a limited perspective on the City of Heroes game, but it feels like much of the reason Ragnarok Online has become almost immortal is because people cloned the server software very early on, and reverse engineered updates as they came around.
The legality of this was very dubious, of course.
If I may ask a silly question - Was there ever any impetus for making private servers when the game was still alive? Or was it free to play - removing 90% of the incentive for private servers?
I'm rather curious. I do hope that the fanbase doesn't get too burnt by NCSoft. It feels like they have an opportunity to make a profit by licensing what already exists.
It's still going, but it's drank way too much of the F2P Kool-aiddoes anyone know if Champions Online is still active? and is it any decent?
It wasn't free while I played it, and I was never aware of any effort to make private serversIf I may ask a silly question - Was there ever any impetus for making private servers when the game was still alive? Or was it free to play - removing 90% of the incentive for private servers?
You're talking about Mercedes Lackey, right?A pretty successful author love the game so much she made a novel and podcast series based around her guild's characters
I have some good memories of this game.
Remember how amazing it was to finally get your travel power or whatever it was they called them? goddamn.
Is City of Villains included in this? Mastermind was my favorite class.
Everything is included in this. CoH, CoV, CoHGR, you can play as hero or villain or even that praetorian class or whatever it was after you'd hit 50 and started over.
This is a huge scandal in the CoH Community right now...people have been praising the community because its friendly and now this happens...
They've kept the server all to themselves the past six years in secret, until it was leaked. There is no getting in. Your old character is still saved on their server, though.
ALSO THEY HAVE DLC / ADD-ONS that the devs planned but never implemented before the shutdown and an INGAME money store? wow it breaks my heart
Apparently the Kickstarter City of titans money was funneled into the private server... The Kickstarter has made over 600k and we have yet so see gameplay after 6 years
That IS a silly question, but only because you loaded it with the assumption that being free is "90%" of the reason for private servers, when the real reasons are usually to play an old/modified version of the game or to continue playing a game that's no longer supported
If it does I'd have to give it a try.This has been pretty incredible to dive into again. Apparently there will be a wipe and the server goes 'live' on the 27th.
Thanks!For everybody who doesnt have discord or wants to know the latest status info about the server since they are improving the server every hour or so:
https://twitter.com/CityofHeroes00
Yeah, I was wrecking my mind trying to remember her nameYou're talking about Mercedes Lackey, right?
Never got into CoH myself but I hope something works out for the fans. It is ridiculous that NCsoft would shut down a self supporting MMO, especially when other companies have been able to keep their own (sometimes ancient, given the age of the genre) self supporting MMOs open.