The shit the GOP is pulling these days is going to come bite them in the ass down the line, right?

[AuthenticM]

Seriously. Like just right now: the petition to remove Mueller from his position. Or all the crazy shit that's happened since Trump got elected. List them all. Yeah, they are in power right now... but all of this has to come back to bite them in the ass eventually, right?

 

[Abstrusity]

Ahahaha.

Hopefully. I don't have high hopes, though. They've gotten away with this shit for most than I've been alive.

 

[AnansiThePersona]

Any time a Republican tries to run for anything decade, Trump stuff will probably be brought up. Will it make a difference? Depends how bad Trump is right before he leaves the house.

 

[thekonamicode]

They'll just blame democrats and then their base will believe it.

 

[Kthulhu]

It already is. Trump's poll numbers are in the toilet and they struggle to pass even basic legislation.

What's important is that Dems use that to their advantage as much as possible.

 

[Kraid]

They refused to hold a single hearing on a Supreme Court nominee and nominated a proto-fascist who was caught on tape bragging about sexual assault and were given the Presidency and both chambers of Congress.

I'll believe this kind of shit will bite them in the ass as soon as it does.

 

[Kill3r7]

Maybe. People have a tendency to forget.

 

[gutter_trash]

Americans have the short-term memory of a Dory fish.

 

[RolandGunner]

I thought this back in the Bush years but by 2010 everyone forgot and blamed Obama for their problems. The lesson is pretty clearly that when you get in office push the agenda as far as possible because voters have no memory.

 

[Deleted member 13628]

The GOP is the effect, not the cause.

There are a lot of really dumb and really evil people in this country, and that's only going to get worse. GOP gets elected because there are people who vote for them. Fox News can exist because there are people who want to watch it.

 

[Arrakis]

Nope once you are in the cult , you stay in the cult

 

[Prophet Steve]

You'd think that about the South before the civil war too, but here we are...

 

[Shoeless]

Seriously. Like just right now: the petition to remove Mueller from his position. Or all the crazy shit that's happened since Trump got elected. List them all. Yeah, they are in power right now... but all of this has to come back to bite them in the ass eventually, right?

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I think it will eventually, but it may be very long term. I can see in several decades the US being a lot like the UK now; coasting off past glories from a previous century where they say "We used to be an Empire! We used to be important!" while the rest of the world does not care, and keeps progressing, occasionally stopping by for the sake of tourism and the cultural legacy of "Hey, remember when these guys were a big deal? Let's have one of those hamburger things they invented here, and get our photo taken with cowboys."

 

[louisacommie]

Hopefully every one in the trump admin is prosecuted and not left alone, due to "leaving the past behind us, and trying to help heal the country" bullshit.

 

[ned_ballad]

The pendulum swings back, eventually

 

[Deleted member 2109]

They'll fuck things up, a democrat will get elected and fix as much as they can and then a republican will be elected and fuck up everything again. We're stuck in a loop.

 

[resident_UA]

No. This won them last election and will win a lot more. Politics are fucked and election system is shitty. I'm not seeing any signs that this will change...

Case in point - you already forgot how they won last election.

 

[BocoDragon]

I think so, though it's hard to see in our current era. Think of how the Iraq War was the popular bandwagon for the GOP in the early 2000s, only for it to turn into a mark of shame by the latter 2000s. The view of the Trump era will change down the road.

 

[Thrill_house]

They'll just blame democrats and then their base will believe it.

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This. This X 100. Just blame the dems, downplay everything Trump and his cronies did during their time in the White House and completely ignore whatever they want. Create their own Narrative of what happened

 

[Parthenios]

W's nonsense caught up to him eventually.

The difference is that we live in a post truth world. If Trump were Bush, he would just tweet that reports of no WMD were #fakeNews and a quarter of the country would believe him and another quarter would play along for tax cuts and that would be that.

How do you convince someone that Trump is a dangerous clown if you cant even establish a ground level reality to begin the conversation?

 

[Dyle]

This stuff is already hurting them, just ask them about what happened to their legislative agenda, health care, tax reform, infrastructure, etc. that they expected to have passed already

It will definitely continue to hurt them, but when and to what degree are yet to be seen. They may manage to crawl out relatively unscathed while the country burns

 

[Link]

I wish I could tell you that, OP. I really do.

 

[potam]

I think it'll take a resurgence of middle-class conservatism (read: fiscally conservative, not neo-con). Right now there is so much corporate money being poured into neo-con politics, and the party is only truly conservative when it comes to social policy.

Once the middle class wakes up and realizes the party's platform doesn't benefit them, I think you will see a schism similar to the Tea Party, but more moderate and mainstream. Realistic conservatism, such as a balanced budget and less intrusive government, versus the libertarian idea of kill em all and let god decide.

 

[Vas]

Yes. They are polling in a way that is indicative of a major loss in 2018... that is if there are no shenanigans, which I suspect more and more every day.

 

[Titik]

Politics in America is cyclical. So yes, it will happen eventually.

Remember 'permanent GOP majority' in 2004?

 

[hydrophilic attack]

I wouldn't count on it. They have worked for years on creating an alternative universe where facts don't matter

 

[UCBooties]

The pendulum swings back, eventually

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That's what I thought when Obama started but that ended up being more of a hiccup in the rightward trajectory than an actual swing back.

 

[SlickShoesRUCRazy]

Their base is made of idiots and people that want an oligarchy.

So probably not.

 

[mentallyinept]

I used to think that... I'm not so sure anymore.

 

[T'Chakku]

You'd like to think so, but who really knows?

People can have short memories sometimes.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

Short term memory says otherwise. There are lunatic Trump supporters who are completely fine with the US going to war with North Korea without thinking about anything like long term costs or the BS we've had to deal with since the Iraq War happened.

 

[rjinaz]

They'll say something like "That was Donald Trump who is no longer president. It's time for Democrats to focus on the actual issues" and half the country will cheer in agreement.

So no.

 

[Fhtagn]

They have been playing for keeps for half a century at a minimum. It seems to be working out relatively well for them (as far as holding on to power and preventing reforms), so they keep at it, no matter what.

 

[zero_suit]

It's difficult to say in a world of alternative facts.

 

[AuthenticM]

I mean white people are reproducing less and less, while blacks are growing in numbers, and immigrants keep coming in the country. So even if white people don't learn shit, at some point, their numbers should go under some threshold that will make the GOP implode and go powerless.

 

[weekev]

I was kind of expecting the #metoo stuff to have serious ramifications for Trump especially considering his exploits have a pretty detailed Wikipedia page. Thinking about creating my own thread about it but not sure it's worth it. How come he is so bulletproof in comparison to the likes of Weinstein and Spacey.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

 

[LakeEarth]

Absolutely.

... oh wait, the GOP? Oh, my mistake. No, no they won't.

Remember kids, if you're Republican, you can brag about sexual assault and say dishonorable things about a Gold Star family, and be elected President of the United States. If you're a Democrat, however, saying "YEAH!" in a silly way will torpedo your entire political career.

 

[Dodongo]

Yes it will, but only if we all can convince everyone else to care.

Voter turnout in the US is abysmal, and that will only change when we start convincing our peers to help make a difference.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

There are people unironically saying they miss George Bush and Mitt Romney.

 

[Shoeless]

Yes it will, but only if we all can convince everyone else to care.

Voter turnout in the US is abysmal, and that will only change when we start convincing our peers to help make a difference.

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Probably one of the most shocking things about the current American cultural climate is that you have a nation that prides itself on the ability for its citizens to actually choose their leader, and half of them can't be bothered to get out of the house to do that. Kind of hard for other nations that don't even have the ability to vote to wonder if Americans are insane.

 

[bye]

The GOP is the effect, not the cause.

There are a lot of really dumb and really evil people in this country, and that's only going to get worse. GOP gets elected because there are people who vote for them. Fox News can exist because there are people who want to watch it.

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The GOP is absolutely both the cause and effect in your argument. Fox News / talk radio is their propaganda arm that is brainwashing people into believing exactly what they want them to believe. All those Obama voters that switched to Trump definitely switched in large because of how successful their messaging is.

 

[Powdered Egg]

I don't have any hope that it will.

 

[DoggosPuppersWoofers]

Op, how do you see this biting them in the ass? I don't see a scenario where millions of Americans suddenly wake up and realize they have been brainwashed by right wing propaganda.

 

[Hollywood Duo]

Look at how many are retiring. It's having an effect and we aren't even one year in to the Trump administration yet.

 

[Powdered Egg]

Is there a historic or socio-cultural reason why US voter turnout is so low? Nearly a year later and I am still angry at friends who sat out.

 

[DoggosPuppersWoofers]

Look at how many are retiring. It's having an effect and we aren't even one year in to the Trump administration yet.

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They're making room for more trumpist candidates.

 

[Torpedo Vegas]

Isn't it already? They created the Tea Party and now can't even work among themselves.

 

[Robdraggoo]

It wasnt that long ago that Bush era regulation cutting and economic policies put is the greatest recession since the great depression.

Trump ran on the same song and dance. And it is undoubtable that poeple that suffered from that, probably voted for him.

 

[Force_XXI]

No one will care when we're reduced to trying to scrape together a bite of food in a dystopian wasteland.

 

[npm0925]

Keep telling yourself that. I think the safe bet is Americans will continue to get dumber and dumber.