The Sonic the Hedgehog movie will gross more domestically than Detective Pikachu. Who will make an avatar bet about that?

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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The Sonic the Hedgehog movie had a rough first impression with both fans of the franchise and the general audience.



It has since recovered in public reception with a second trailer that showcased a much better redesigned Sonic and a tone more befitting of the blue blur.

Currently, per The Hollywood Reporter, Sonic the Hedgehog is tracking for a solid $40-45M debut on a $90M production budget pre-redesign.

Sonic seems to be destined for a relatively successful box office run in its own right.

However, I have higher expectations for this hedgehog. Yes, Sonic the Hedgehog will outgross Detective Pikachu, the Hollywood motion picture debut of the biggest media franchise in the world! (domestically)



If Sonic the Hedgehog ends its domestic box office run below $144,105,346, those who bet for Sonic domestic > Detective Pikachu domestic will have to wear an avatar voted for by fellow ERA users from some acceptable options for one month.

If Sonic the Hedgehog ends its domestic box office run above $144,105,346, those who bet against Sonic domestic > Detective Pikachu domestic will have to wear an avatar
voted for by fellow ERA users from some acceptable options for one month.

Bets will close on February 5.

So, what say you, Era? Who will prevail, the fastest creature in the world or a puny yellow rat?



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stealthyfrog
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AGAINST:
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wideface

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Oct 25, 2017
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Japan
The more I think about it, the more I can see it happening, actually.
Undecided if I'll take the bet for now.
 

Window

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,358
Why are avatar bets based around box office? Why not something like the NBA or Dems primary elections or something.
 

Blue Skies

Banned
Mar 27, 2019
7,325
I won’t avatar bet

but, domestically, I can see it.The films aesthetic seems way more kid friendly than Ryan Reynolds voices Pikachu.
 

Spyder_Monkey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,469
It absolutely won't.

I won't avatar bet because, hey anything is possible, but Pikachu had a lot more hype and positive attention towards it than Sonic and that affects box office performance.
 
May 26, 2019
75
Completely against this one. It is probably gonna make a little more than half of what Detective Pikachu made. People are completing overhyping the box office for this movie, especially since video game movies still have a bad stigma against them.
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,473
I think it kinda depends on how strongly the film is marketed, but so many big films have been box office bombs in the last few years that I wouldn't want to take that bet.
 

Pop-O-Matic

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Oct 25, 2017
5,030
As much as fans have latched on to the post-redesign trailers, I feel like the first trailer and original Sonic design killed a lot of general interest and poisoned the well for this film. That plus the fact that this is another "cartoon character goes to real world and hangs out with bland human lead character" film (which audiences just don't respond to well anymore) I think really hurts it's chances of doing well, and the current OW tracking (about $20-30M) indicates that this probably won't even have a shot of defeating TecChu unless it somehow ends up in the 90s on RT and has legs like pre-redesign Sonic.

#Against
 
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stealthyfrog

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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For the record the avatar I plan to choose will be this picture but with some witty caption
Nothing too bad, just a badge of shame

If you guys decide on a better avatar then we can use that instead
Why are avatar bets based around box office? Why not something like the NBA or Dems primary elections or something.
Because box office totals are pretty low stakes
Yeah when is the bet decided and how long must we wear our shame?
Updated the OP. Avatar lasts for one month. Bet is decided once it is announced that Sonic has ended its box office run.
 

Solid SOAP

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Nov 27, 2017
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For the record the avatar I plan to choose will be this picture but with some witty caption
Nothing too bad, just a badge of shame

If you guys decide on a better avatar then we can use that instead

Because box office totals are pretty low stakes

Updated the OP. Avatar lasts for one month. Bet is decided once it is announced that Sonic has ended its box office run.
I really think ya gotta go with this one:



What do you think? ;)
 

Window

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Oct 27, 2017
6,358
That 45M forecast, is that for a 3 day or 4 day weekend? This is already over if that’s for a 4 day weekend.
 

Aaron

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Oct 25, 2017
13,747
Why are avatar bets based around box office? Why not something like the NBA or Dems primary elections or something.
Probably because it's frivolous enough that most people wouldn't have any investment in it otherwise.

Contrast to a lot of sports fans who literally consider their fandom a part of their identity, or politics which is more broadly consequential.

If my dumb Sonic the Hedgehog movie flops I'll be bummed as a fan, wear a silly avatar on a message board for a month (or however long) and then move on with my life.

(I also really enjoyed Detective Pikachu so I won't mind if I'm wrong)
 

NotLiquid

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not going to take a part of this bet but I will say I overestimated Pikachu and I'm not sure I'm ready to do so again.
 

Window

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Oct 27, 2017
6,358
Probably because it's frivolous enough that most people wouldn't have any investment in it otherwise.

Contrast to a lot of sports fans who literally consider their fandom a part of their identity, or politics which is more broadly consequential.

If my silly Sonic the Hedgehog movie flops I'll be bummed as a fan, wear a silly avatar on a message board for a month (or however long) and then move on with my life.

(I also really enjoyed Detective Pikachu so I won't mind if I'm wrong)
But that’s so boring. You need high stakes!
 
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stealthyfrog

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
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Even the Detective Pikachu avatar bet thread ended up being pretty nasty. Imagine how bad an avatar bet over actual politics would be
 

ZeldaGalaxy94

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Nov 6, 2017
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More hype for this than I was for DP

Really wanted to see it in November around my birthday, so it a late birthday present for myself
 

Pedro

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,661
There's a broken picture in the OP. And I'm Team Pikachu, no way at all Sonic is more successful.
 

Aaron

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Oct 25, 2017
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Even the Detective Pikachu avatar bet thread ended up being pretty nasty. Imagine how bad an avatar bet over actual politics would be
As a Pikachu partisan I got pretty annoyed by the people who seemed to be rooting for it to fail.

Can’t I just bet on all the movies to have a good time?
 
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stealthyfrog

stealthyfrog

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Jan 6, 2019
11,001
If I make this bet...does that mean I can replace my current loser's avatar?
No one's forcing you to keep the avatar for the full duration

You can wait until that bet is complete and then add the month of this losing bet if you want

Or just drop that other bet and wear the new avatar right away

Doesn't matter