Also PSNow in 2018 had 52% of the gaming subscription market. More then Gamepass, EA access/ origin access combined.
Except that those numbers turned out to be absolutely bs when Sony released their own numbers...
Also PSNow in 2018 had 52% of the gaming subscription market. More then Gamepass, EA access/ origin access combined.
Hey, it's complicated, lol.The switch is the next gen console from Nintendo and will compete with PS5 and Xbox Whatever.
One reason I can think off is that insiders said the documentation and marketing material had performance deltas rather then raw specs. According to those Lockhart was aiming at 4X the S and Anaconda 2X the XI see zero reasons why not mention more affordaple console too already. I am willing to make avatar bet that we only get one console.
MS isn't battling Nintendo or Sony anymore, they are battling Google's Stadia. That's where the future of gaming is to be 'untied' to a console as much as possible. That's where all the money and opportunity is. Even Sony gets this and is using Azure for their services plan.
Five years in tech is huge. We have games like Fortnite and PUBG on phones and in many different countries bringing in more money than the vast majority of $60 games. Google, Ubisoft, EA, and more trying subscriptions and streaming. Microsoft has more than tripled in value and has a market cap now of over 1 trillion. You can't just stick to your current path forever. Sony knows this all too well which is why they've changed stances on stuff like EA access, crossplay, etc. You have to adapt to grow. If Microsoft just focused on "beating" Sony in console sales they would eventually be losing to Google if streaming becomes the thing 5 years from now.
The business isn't how many consoles you sell. The business is how many players are playing the games that they buy, how they play
Gamepass, xcloud and games for gold are all derivatives(not literally) of ps plus and psnow. They haven't really carved their own lane they are following what sony created(onlive for the streaming bit).
Yes.
If we talk about specs Nintendo is always a generation late and Wii Ü was their 7th generation console. If we're talking about companies being humilliated, that is an awful and consolewarish way to talk, I don't know if Wii Ü would chose to have been humilliated by PS4 and Xbox One or by PS3 and 360.Hey, it's complicated, lol.
I blame Nintendo.
I have no problem saying it started 9th gen. I'm like those that depending on the narrative I change what it's called, what gen it belongs to.
When hardware becomes irrelevant they will have even more competition, because when game companies transform into the equivalent of movie studios, it will be all about the content.The market is transitioning to cloud + content so of course in the current time, they are battling on all fronts and they have the means to do it. That's why we are still getting scarlett and whatever comes next after it.
One reason I can think off is that insiders said the documentation and marketing material had performance deltas rather then raw specs. According to those Lockhart was aiming at 4X the S and Anaconda 2X the X
However Ms ignored those and said 4x the X.
This got me thinking that perhaps they were leaking false information to protect the real truth. I can also see a scenario where they just keep S and X, but IMO the strongest case for Lockhart is that it comes with a new and more efficient architecture so they could replace X with another console at the same ballpark but that's more cost effective.
I don't see X costing less than $350 next year, and Lockhart is rumored to launch at 300. I have no idea how they intend to reach that price with SSD, but if they did it would be a very interesting price point to be in
Game royalties is actually more accurrate, which can be had via services or traditional retail sales. Right now most profit comes from retail, but subs are gaining ground and might surpass retail if the subs and streaming services are strong enough.Anyone with any sense can see that services are when the money is not hardware.
This is implying we're on the verge of another PS3-style fuck up from Sony, no?
The 7th gen was PS360, Wii for home consoles.If we talk about specs Nintendo is always a generation late and Wii Ü was their 7th generation console. If we're talking about companies being humilliated, that is an awful and consolewarish way to talk, I don't know if Wii Ü would chose to have been humilliated by PS4 and Xbox One or by PS3 and 360.
If we're going to talk about humilliations Nintendo and Microsoft are tied
This...people always forget content is king.When hardware becomes irrelevant they will have even more competition, because when game companies transform into the equivalent of movie studios, it will be all about the content.
Just look at Sony: they were too big too fail at one point and entered the movie business, but most of their movies sucked...shit happens.
In today's world, I don't agree that it's "the truth"Erm thats the truth ?
Regardless of what you think of that statement - stuff like this would be more impactful if he said this when the Xbox was the best selling console. Ofc he is gonna downplay the importance of hardware sales when they cant compete on that level.
Not saying he is wrong or right....but come on.
Who would think otherwise?
MS is offering so many choices the way you can purchase games and where you can buy. The keyword is choice. So many options and avenues where the end user can play their games. Beautiful thing to see.
Because 6 months for a $1 is great, and $10 a month for access to hundreds of dollwrs worth of games is cheap tooWhy are we acting like GamePass stays 1 dollar forever? Why is this still a narrative here?
No, you said that specs were relevant to decide on what gen Switch is:The 7th gen was PS360, Wii for home consoles.
The Wii U launched in 2012, a year before the PS4/XBO.
Are you saying the Wii U was a 7th gen console based on specs? Because I don't think that's why that works.
Nintendo just muddied the waters with the Switch.
Can I have next weeks lottery numbers?
You don't need to predict the future to know Sony will be fine sales wise....we have 4 console generations of data. Outside a huge market disruption that is.
I agree it's a great value but that $1 is an entry point not the norm is all I'm saying. Comments like "They are giving away games for $1" make me feel like people don't know that it's not forever or they are not being genuine.Because 6 months for a $1 is great, and $10 a month for access to hundreds of dollwrs worth of games is cheap too
Right, that's about the Switch. And I said I have no problem calling it 9th gen.No, you said that specs were relevant to decide on what gen Switch is:
"With the specs the PS5 and next gen Xbox will have, I think it may be safe to say it's competing with PS4 and XBO."
For me Switch is the first of the nine generation, not the second console from nintendo for the 8th. Considering a company can have more than one console for gen doesn't make much sense and is not fair. Even with that logic, Nintendo needed 2 consoles to beat One (that is not a very succesful attemp from microsoft), I don't find that shaming for Microsoft.
It's no different than people saying "lots of 7 day free passes being used"I agree it's a great value but that $1 is an entry point not the norm is all I'm saying. Comments like "They are giving away games for $1" make me feel like people don't know that it's not forever or they are not being genuine.
This is no different than any other strategy to get people on your service.
I was never going to buy Black Desert, and now it's on my console waiting to be played because of a game pass sub that I share with my brother 🤷🏽♂️.It's no different than people saying "lots of 7 day free passes being used"
People still can't grasp that gamers not only enjoy but don't mind paying the regular price every month because it is that good a service.
Look at Black Desert online, it's up for pre-order on PS4, if you own both consoles you can get it with game pass and save money
I don't get praising the genius of Microsoft here while ignoring Sony's PSN digital sales revenue.
I don't think these ideas are unrelated. There's still something to be said about selling your box to people, especially with the rise in digital game sales.
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It's not just about sales anymore is the point they've attacked that concept with all of their moves over the past few years. They have litterally moved the goalposts
You don't need to predict the future to know Sony will be fine sales wise....we have 4 console generations of data. Outside a huge market disruption that is.
When hardware becomes irrelevant they will have even more competition, because when game companies transform into the equivalent of movie studios, it will be all about the content.
Just look at Sony: they were too big too fail at one point and entered the movie business, but most of their movies sucked...shit happens.
the better questions to this is, How can you beat Google, and you cant even beat smaller companies like Sony and Nintendo?
To be honest, google is the last thing anyone should be worried about, Stadia is not going to do anything. So that would even be easier.
Right. It's about revenue.
I don't know that the subscription model is better than ensuring your customers are inclined to use your service to buy games digitally.
We need to differentiate between MS+Azure and the Xbox division tho. Not the same thing, as crazy as this may sound.Yeah not everyone will be able to stand up the infrastructure to provide the right services. I can forsee the 'competition' use azure, AWS, google cloud, etc for their back end.
We need to differentiate between MS+Azure and the Xbox division tho. Not the same thing, as crazy as this may sound.
Who is Sony using for their online services infrastructure? Who will Nintendo use (perhaps it could be azure, google etc)?
Stadia will have a head start on Nintendo and maybe even Sony. They will eat some market share. You cannot predict the future so who knows.
No. I'm saying console allegiance doesn't exist at any relevant level. People will buy whatever new console is most attractive on its own merits as they've done in literally every other generation.
who they use doesn't matter. the cloud stuff is a whole separate division from xbox, that's not going to help xbox. we here are about gaming period