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The Verge - Verizon is quietly testing its own Netflix-style cloud gaming service
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Speaking of which, when is Comcast going to announce a cloud gaming service? Everybody else involved with internet services is doing it, seems like a no-brainer
I would have assumed it would be a FiOS service. I wonder If this is gonna flop hard?
I will accept a bad future where I am forced to grossly overpay for a shallow selection of games that stream too slowly, with dodgy IQ and input lag, while the server secretly records my microphone and sells my data to advertisers, from literally any company but fucking Verizon.*
*Or Comcast.
this is hilarious how many companies want to jump in on this shit. better now than after someone is a monolith and your trying to play catch up i guess. what's verizon's plan tho? buy a bit of third party exclusives and hope that's enough? buy some studios? should be interesting.
Their published titles aren't available on competing platforms.
I can see Verizon working with third party companies like Nvidia or game publishers to create a service sure. They would have better control over network QoS to possibly offer better performance than a plain old internet connection. I don't think this will work out for them if they're going ahead alone without a big publisher though. Or they're possibly conducting trials offering QoS to other streaming platform services.
The upside of all these services is that it becomes a developers market as they try to lock down exclusives. Indies will be swimming in it. Downside is we need to subscribe to all these services to play everything.
Yes but they're not exclusive to just Xbox either. Thats what I was responding to.
Fuck all of these cloud gaming/game streaming services. It's going to kill ownership even worse than 100% digital distribution would.
If you value gaming as an art form you will not support these services.
If you value gaming as an art form you will not support these services.
Yeah, noticed that, I think that is probably the case. If so, Sony will not be happy.
Everybody and their grandma will have a game streaming service by 2020. This is why VR will be so important for consoles as a differentiator factor.
Then you're looking at things the wrong way.
Since all these services are hitting the cloud, the only ones with titles that have exclusivity are Sony and Microsoft.
Google, Amazon, and Verizon don't seem to be building any as of yet.
In theory any software running on Windows can be [legally] streamed. The legality is determined either on the customer side or on the provider side, by who owns what kind of license on the host system. It's more complicated (and almost unrealistic practically and economically for a third-party) with software tied to hardware like on Nintendo or Sony consoles.
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Digital distribution of games hasn't been a thing for years now. Gaming did not die. Even with physical games, DLC and expansions are digital and not on disc.
While it's a pleasant surprise to see you complain about something other than microtransactions, Not sure what you're on about with this.
Well, good thing we have net neutrality regulations to prevent Verizon from traffic-shaping game-streaming services that compete with them. Actually no, we don't anymore, never mind. I guess we need to rely on Verizon to make the ethically correct choice then.
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The old Double Helix is working on 'New World' while their Seattle studio is working on that The Grand Tour game. They also have a studio in San Diego, but not sure how big that studio is.
You're not making sense to me. You said verizon needed exclusives, xbox proves they dont need them. Xbox games are already on PC, the more popular platform than xbox and ps4 combined.
The mere idea of a company like Verizon trying to do a game streaming service, something dependent on a steady and consistent connection, just reminds me of this classic.
Yeah, this'll go well. I 'spose download speeds are one thing and upload speeds are another, but Verizon's been flaky about both, and I somehow doubt streaming multiplayer's going to go well with that kind of throttling.
Yeah, this'll go well. I 'spose download speeds are one thing and upload speeds are another, but Verizon's been flaky about both, and I somehow doubt streaming multiplayer's going to go well with that kind of throttling.
Their published titles still have exclusivity though. You're utilizing their services when playing their titles.
When comparing these different companies, it's about services, not hardware.
I'm optimistic about how all this is going to turn out. I think the benefits of local computed gaining are real. Local compute won't be pushed out by streaming.
I do expect aaa games to double down on the dumb down as they adapt to the shifting audience. That'll be funny to watch.
I do expect aaa games to double down on the dumb down as they adapt to the shifting audience. That'll be funny to watch.
They only need to be exclusive to their service - which they are.
I agree.
Sadly most people just don't give a shit as long as they get to play the latest games for cheap :(
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Microsoft's games will be exclusive to their platform. We'll have to see how much exclusive content Amazon and in this case Verizon can gather.
What a coincidence, after they successfully repealed Net Neutrality with the help of their buddy Ajit Pai, now they are starting to offer their "premium services"... basically what everyone predicted.
Also interestingly enough they are using Nvidia Shield as their first platform, which i thought it was going to be discontinued as maybe part of the deal Nvidia has with Nintendo.
Also interestingly enough they are using Nvidia Shield as their first platform, which i thought it was going to be discontinued as maybe part of the deal Nvidia has with Nintendo.
As demonstrated by the previous person to quote me in this thread.
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In my opinion a gaming streaming service should be global. Wondering when the 'streaming wars' will start. Maybe we'll see the first big publisher being bought by a cloud provider this year. Who knows.
Sony has a headstart, but they'll have fierce competition from the likes of Amazon and Microsoft.
Sony has a headstart, but they'll have fierce competition from the likes of Amazon and Microsoft.
I see what you're saying. I was just looking at things from a PC perspective. When I asked what's on Xbox that's actually exclusive compared to what Verizon/Amazon could originally create in house. But even on PC, you're really still using MS's services really. This will be interesting.
The thing that's really going to limit them is that their consumer business is nearly totally focused on the US.
That's going to mean that the userbase will be limited to a section of US gamers. Sony and Microsoft are aiming at a much more global audience. With a smaller audience, any exclusive that Verizon want to buy will cost them more per user. Developers of games which are primarily popular outside of the US will also be heavily reluctant to sign any kind of exclusivity deal.
It'll also make word of mouth more difficult to spread - for any gaming community with a userbase that isn't heavily concentrated in the US, any news about this service will be a total irrelevance for the non-US users, even if they would otherwise be interested in streaming games services.
That's going to mean that the userbase will be limited to a section of US gamers. Sony and Microsoft are aiming at a much more global audience. With a smaller audience, any exclusive that Verizon want to buy will cost them more per user. Developers of games which are primarily popular outside of the US will also be heavily reluctant to sign any kind of exclusivity deal.
It'll also make word of mouth more difficult to spread - for any gaming community with a userbase that isn't heavily concentrated in the US, any news about this service will be a total irrelevance for the non-US users, even if they would otherwise be interested in streaming games services.
Yeah, but you know someone will come up with a way and stream to a wireless VR headset eventually though.
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Streaming VR is really not happening in the near future. Motion sickness galore.
I really don't think this means Verizon will be making their own games. It has to be a collaboration with existing gaming publishers.
On streaming VR - how does it work over wifi with the server/computer in the same room? Any known testing from the likes of Valve or Occulus?
On streaming VR - how does it work over wifi with the server/computer in the same room? Any known testing from the likes of Valve or Occulus?