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The Verge: "WikiLeaks calls for Guardian editor’s decapitation if Manafort story proves false"

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President Donald Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, held multiple meetings with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange around the time that Manafort was brought on to run Trump's campaign, according to The Guardian. Assange has vehemently opposed the integrity of the report, calling for the editor of paper's head.

Allegedly, the meetings occurred in 2013, 2015, and March 2016 at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London where Assange has taken asylum for the past few years. The last meeting reportedly took place months after Assange released thousands of hacked emails belonging to Democratic National Convention officials that were acquired by Russian intelligence officers. Manafort has repeatedly denied his involvement with DNC email hack, but this revelation could come under scrutiny by special counsel Robert Mueller and his investigation into Russian collusion in the 2016 presidential election.

An internal document from Ecuador's intelligence agency identifies Manafort as one of the embassy's "well-known guests," also mentioning "Russians."



Moments after the report was released, the WikiLeaks Twitter account called out The Guardian, claiming that the report was false. "Remember this day when the Guardian permitted a serial fabricator to totally destroy the paper's reputation," the tweet read. "Wikileaks is willing to bet the Guardian a million dollars and its editor's head that Manafort never met Assange." Manafort's defense team has yet to make a statement regarding the report.
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https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/27/18114380/wikileaks-trump-julian-assange-decapitation-manafort
 
Sho_Nuff82

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What the fuck at that title OP

Why not just make a thread about the original guardian article?
 
Dyle

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I think you're taking Wikileak's saber rattling a little too literally
 
Morrigan

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The Verge is taking the "calling for __'s head" thing a bit too literally here.
 
Calderc

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'Calling for someone's head' is a well-known phrase and not a literal call for decapitation...
 
Zvonimir Boban

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That doesn't mean they literally want the editor's head.

It means that want the editor to be fired as punishment.
 
stupei

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The tweet really does make it sound strange. Obviously most people have heard of like the public or crowd calling for someone's head, but I've genuinely never heard it used in this way, betting someone their head. It really does seem deliberately and bizarrely ominous.
 
mael

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WL tweet does not even make sense!
Either they know and they deny it but this is like a 3rd party arguing from the outside.
It's like they don't even know.
 
bsigg

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@OP, it might be worth adding something like this because if people like me don't click through, they won't realize it was The Verge getting their best Buzzfeed headline on.


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Morrigan

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lacer said:
why is this worthy of a new thread?
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If you read beyond the headline, the story itself is that Wikileaks is flat-out denying that Assange met with Manafort, and even goes as far as to claim it'll be proven false (or well, that they'd bet a lot of money on it). It's a new development on the Assange/Manafort story that the Guardian broke.
 
Dynedom

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Either way, asking/betting/referencing a journalist's head just seems an....awful choice of words given recent events.
 
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Morrigan said:
If you read beyond the headline, the story itself is that Wikileaks is flat-out denying that Assange met with Manafort, and even goes as far as to claim it'll be proven false (or well, that they'd bet a lot of money on it). It's a new development on the Assange/Manafort story that the Guardian broke.
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there's a two page, two hour old topic that covers everything contained in this article, including the tweet the headline is sourced from. is ERAs attention span really so brief that this warrants an entirely new topic detailing Verge's hot take?
 
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Morrigan said:
If you read beyond the headline, the story itself is that Wikileaks is flat-out denying that Assange met with Manafort, and even goes as far as to claim it'll be proven false (or well, that they'd bet a lot of money on it). It's a new development on the Assange/Manafort story that the Guardian broke.
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Not like they'll actually ever pay it.
 
RedShift

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Wait what are Wikileaks betting on their side here? I doubt they have a million bucks lying around (Unless daddy Putin lends it to them) and I also doubt they're willing to fire Assange.
 
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Morrigan said:
The Verge is taking the "calling for __'s head" thing a bit too literally here.
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Yeah.

Calling for a bosses head means getting them fired in the UK, not killed.

It's taken from the more gruesome meaning but I don't think that's the case here.

Either way, I don't think the Cardigan would be running this story without receipts so good luck with the bet Assange.
 
Omegasquash

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Morrigan said:
If you read beyond the headline, the story itself is that Wikileaks is flat-out denying that Assange met with Manafort, and even goes as far as to claim it'll be proven false (or well, that they'd bet a lot of money on it). It's a new development on the Assange/Manafort story that the Guardian broke.
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Respectfully, poorly written headlines like these, and the knee jerk reaction posting of this stuff as a thread take the entire idea of a meaningful discussion to task. It's not for me to moderate, but the quality of threads, and their poor/misleading titles are a detriment to what we could and should be doing. It reflects on this board as a whole when we don't outright lock clickbait, uninformed threads with titles like these and wait for factual, not 'literal' interpretations of stories.
 
flkRaven

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Fucking christ, they could get their point across without intentionally misinterpreting what was said. A non-sensationalist headline would play far better.
 
DrROBschiz

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Uhhh Verge cmon man

Dont be that guy

Everyone knows "i want his head" in that context means "this guy needs to lose hid job/credentials"

Either way is there any chance the Guardian article got it wrong?
 
flkRaven

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"Father calls for the fracturing of his daughter's tibia before her big ballet recital."
 
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