I bet they're going to launch a week or two from each other. :p
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The Verge: Xbox chief says Project Scarlett ‘will not be out of position on power or price’
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I bet they're going to launch a week or two from each other. :p
Phil Spencer never said the Xbox will be more powerful than the PS5, he said competitive. And from what Kleegamefan told us the difference is comparable to Xbox One and Xbox One S nothing fancy maybe 5 to 7% advantage. A game can run at 30 fps on Scarlett will run at 31 fps on PS5. The difference between the two consoles will be a maximum of 1 or 2 frame per second at the same resolution. lol
This is cool they perform similarly.
EDIT: If someone chooses a console because the framerate is 1 fps better I begin to find this strange. The battle will be on games and service. I prefer PS games from my side but I think Microsoft has better services. I think Sony need to create a download only services. Having the PSNow tying download and streaming services is an error and at the speed they deploy the services they will never been able to be worldwide before a long time.
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By one at launch, by the other during the next gen for cheap at a bargain bin at some undisclosed flea market.
Same reason they are offering hundreds of new and old games + different subs for like 3-4 other services from third parties for $1?
Clearly they want more and more people to come to Xbox even if it means that they lose money initially. Having free online for next gen will give them a huge boost compared to Sony. If they get tens of millions of people buying more next-gen Xbox, they can sell more software and services to a much larger audience down the line.
Which one is better? 20 million people giving you $15 monthly for an Ultimate sub, or 40 million people giving you $10 monthly just for Game Pass?
Ofc, these numbers are completely hypothetical and like I said, I don't see either Xbox or Sony doing this tbh. Just saying that you can have a lucrative sub service as a market leader even without paid online play if your services are priced right and you have the audience.
I would never believe what MS says, after how they tried to muddy the waters last gen. I'll wait until both are compared by a third party if they are truly as close as they are rumored.
When you are trying to move as much of your business as possible to subscription, it doesn't make much sense to kill by far your most successful subscription service.
Like I said, I don't expect that to actually happen. Just saying that it is doable.
And while yes, Microsoft is definitely interested in pushing consoles into living rooms, Spencer is also ensuring that other potential customers are covered, too. Like, I'm in a situation with a decent enough PC that I don't know if I need a Scarlett, because I know that I'll (likely) be able to play the exclusives on release day with game pass ultimate. They're OK with that. This is why the console install base is going to just be one, and not THE, metric next generation.
Even if Scarlett is less powerful, it wont be by much, and I dont think it would even be noticeable for the most part. Price will be the big ? going forward.
"Do we want to do another gen" is definitely not something Sony or Nintendo would ask though, that is off-putting
"Do we want to do another gen" is definitely not something Sony or Nintendo would ask though, that is off-putting
Next gen going to be something else. MS are going to come out swinging this time. Even if I go sony again I'm getting gamepass/xcloud or just buy their shit on steam. They going to get my money sonehow. Smart moves imo.
Same here. Giving me the opportunity to play their titles on PC just makes the decision to go PC exclusive that much easier.
Those three people because they aren't in the business of selling you consoles, unlike the head of Xbox.
My guess is either $499 or $599 for price. Either way, it seems challenging to hit that low price point and still get the console to be powerful.
Microsoft might be taking a loss or making next to nothing if they go lower.
Microsoft might be taking a loss or making next to nothing if they go lower.
I believe Reiner, not familiar with Klee, but Colin isn't really a games journalist, at least in my opinion.
If MS's exclusives were selling 10 million in their first year, they would feel the same way
Agree with this. Hey..at least he agrees that there are generations. So that talking point can die now if it hasn't. 'No more generations'
I'm kinda excited to see, which console will be stronger, just cause i'm thinking to myself, can microsoft allow themself to be weaker (even if its just 5%) another gen? But they are doing a great job with GamePass, and xCloud also sounds very good. 2020 gonna be very exciting, bring it on!
As long as they have games (and first-party games that make gamers want to purchase a Scarlett), I think they will be fine. Competition is a good thing for all of us.
I don't think MS can afford to allow Xbox to be weaker, even if by a very small margin. Even if it's a 1% disadvantage to PS5 it will be a PR disaster for Xbox...again. I think Phil is well aware of this and isn't going to let it happen.
That could change in Sony's favor. I think their exclusives will start to show on the PC. That will hurt MS a bit. It'll be about the games at this point and the services.
As crazy as it seems...people will make a big deal about it.
It's basically going to be the same console in a different box.
Yeah, that's what i'm also thinking. The press and the fans would eat them up.
It's nice to hear him say it, but these words mean 100% absolutely nothing.
Last generation Microsoft spent years both before and after launch telling us that the original XBox One was more powerful than the PS4. And it wasn't. By any stretch it wasn't.
Yet they had FUD spreaders like Albert Pinello or whatever his name was clog up threads, scoffing at anyone that would dare suggest that Microsoft could be out-engineered by Sony, throwing a bunch of technical misinformation that meant jack shit once you put PS4 and XB1 multiplatforms side by side.
Again, I wouldn't expect Spencer not to say these things, and I'm definitely anticipating Scarlett more than I was the XB1, but these words are hollow.
Last generation Microsoft spent years both before and after launch telling us that the original XBox One was more powerful than the PS4. And it wasn't. By any stretch it wasn't.
Yet they had FUD spreaders like Albert Pinello or whatever his name was clog up threads, scoffing at anyone that would dare suggest that Microsoft could be out-engineered by Sony, throwing a bunch of technical misinformation that meant jack shit once you put PS4 and XB1 multiplatforms side by side.
Again, I wouldn't expect Spencer not to say these things, and I'm definitely anticipating Scarlett more than I was the XB1, but these words are hollow.
It's not up to Phil to decide that. He's not in the hardware race alone.
I've been saying once GamePass arrived...online will go away and I said that it will happen at E3 2020...
#believe
How are they hallow in a world where the One X exists? Why don't you factor that in?
The company who still charges you online for fee to play games is not going to be giving up that free cash lmao.
Xbox X launched a year later and 100 dollars more. The next Xbox will be launching at the same time as PS5.
Their exclusives are averaging 10 million sold in the first year?