The Walking Dead Season 4 on PC is moving to the Epic Store; Epic funding dev (Steam season pass owners will still get final episodes on Steam)
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Season 4? I played a couple episodes with that latino dude on psn but never got around to finish it. Thought that was the final season.
Can we start seeing games for Intel systems only now? Or games only for nvidia cards? Or Ryzen only games? Or games specifically for owners of a certain speaker system?
This is what the future of competition looks like, embrace your diverse gaming exclusive overlords, weeee.
This is what the future of competition looks like, embrace your diverse gaming exclusive overlords, weeee.
this kind of bullshit in any other industry would have raised hell, but here apparently
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So you are mad cause you are cheap, got it.
We already have that now with nVidia-only graphical options such as hairworks.
No, they're too wrapped up in the fact that they think they have to download a free program and take one (or maybe even two!?) minutes to create a free account to read the second sentence.
You see PC players have it rough. It's like how if a console player sees an exclusive they want but it's on the other platform, their only option is to go spend hundreds of dollars to play that exclusive... Well their issue is kind of like that, only it's free.
NICE! I like this competition that brings absolutely nothing to the table since the game was already available elsewhere and got pulled off just for this. So, since competition is all about optionZ, there was an option, they removed that option, now we have another option. So we have... one option just like before. Competition!!!
But when you live in a country where people make like $300/month it's ridiculous to pay $30 for a game (not even talking about full price AAA titles).
Tomb Raider was a timed exclusive, and as a fan of the reboot I hated the move from Square Enix, also didn't it backfire with the sales of Rise of the Tomb Raider being weak ?. As for Dead Rising, I am not so sure that's the case, the first one was exclusive, the 2nd wasn't, the 3rd was, then the 4th was timed, it was more of a mess.
But anyone losing access to their favorite franchise would be annoyed and pissed, I for one believe that the 'value' of console or even exclusivity comes from inhouse, hence why we see the true great exclusive titles being done inhouse like with Sony (God of War, Horizon, Uncharted) and Nintendo (Mario, Zelda) and Microsoft (Gears of War, Halo), I don't like the whole 'lets buy an exclusive title' thing, especially if it is a sequel.
If you want to compete you have to compete with what's there and not what's been. Even when starting out.
Or can I interest you in my new handheld to compete against the Nintendo Switch? It currently is only a plate of glas but more will come soon. Some games already on it.
I don't get the reactions to this.
It's not like a console where you have to drop a huge investment upfront. You can just... have both stores. From the sounds of it, this wouldn't exist without Epic's involvement and anyone who already bought it now gets the season completed when before it would've just died off.
It's not like a console where you have to drop a huge investment upfront. You can just... have both stores. From the sounds of it, this wouldn't exist without Epic's involvement and anyone who already bought it now gets the season completed when before it would've just died off.
Epic only has regional pricing in a few countries, So people in countries like Canada have to pay more then they would on Steam, but now you have none of the features Steam provides, also Epic isn't the most stable of platforms and is 40% owned by Tencent so i'd rather not give my personal information to them.
Boy I sure love paying more for less because muh competition.
"But it's just an extra click"
Like clockwork, the same bullshit "arguments" from people who don't play games on PC.
Read: This wouldn't be an issue if the game was made available on multiple launchers, not snatched away and put on a launcher that is significantly behind Steam and other competition in basically every regard.
Like clockwork, the same bullshit "arguments" from people who don't play games on PC.
Read: This wouldn't be an issue if the game was made available on multiple launchers, not snatched away and put on a launcher that is significantly behind Steam and other competition in basically every regard.
You do realise that in some countries buying a game that's been currency converted 1:1 it can be more expensive than rent for a month, right?
That literally did start happening a couple years ago with Facebook making games to run exclusively on their VR headsets on PC. That business model was of not reciprocated by Valve who instead benefit from a "all hardware should be able to play everything" approach and worked on more open standard. For now, Epic is more benign than Facebook, but it's still a pain in the butt for me as a customer.
Good on Epic for helping save the game, but this PC exclusivity stuff is getting ridiculous and only is truly justifiable in regards to first-party titles.
Also, I can't imagine this bodes well for future sales of the game, which sucks :( I know Telltale is dead but Skybound Games seemed open to the idea of permanently hiring some of this team to work on making more narrative games, which would be really awesome, but I'm sure it's dependent on the rest of this season's sales. Please let it sell well
Also, I can't imagine this bodes well for future sales of the game, which sucks :( I know Telltale is dead but Skybound Games seemed open to the idea of permanently hiring some of this team to work on making more narrative games, which would be really awesome, but I'm sure it's dependent on the rest of this season's sales. Please let it sell well
I cant use a store that cant send me a password reset email.
The Epic Store is shit.
My question to you is.. WHY do you say the PC market as the same even if when it comes to competitors? Consoles speak for a locked walled garden that has everything under the platform owner's supervision and getting exclusives to your platform matters the most, it doesn't matter whether you money hat devs or create 1st party exclusives with studios you own. Now the PC gaming space is different where its open nature is absolutely critical to its survival. Steam at first started as a service to download and play Half life 2 only but then Valve's approach for it changed slowly but surely it went from being a locked platform to a pretty much open platform over past years that is controlled by valve with their hands off as much as possible approach. The biggest thing is that Valve believes in open choice while also adding consumer friendly features to its platform and this philosophy coincides with PC gaming's survival in general so the crowd often flocks to their ecosystem.
Repeat after me: "Fuck poor people". Ahh, that felt nice, didn't it?
I wish everyone who still says shit like this was forced to live in a third world country for a year or two.
Hmm...
I don't know, the fact that they swept up a game that already existed on other game stores kind of stinks. But Epic clearly wants to throw money to those who need it, and if they can bring over enough PC gamers and build the infrastructure to actually compete it might be worth it. For now, though, it mostly looks like Epic throwing money at the problem.
I don't know, the fact that they swept up a game that already existed on other game stores kind of stinks. But Epic clearly wants to throw money to those who need it, and if they can bring over enough PC gamers and build the infrastructure to actually compete it might be worth it. For now, though, it mostly looks like Epic throwing money at the problem.
Agreed. The line is vague and I think people who take this as Epic funding the season are reading into it perhaps more than they should.
And that's certainly not ideal, but it's not like Epic has single-handedly turned PC into a walled garden or like they're taking something from people who've already paid for it. Features will come, but exclusives build a platform. It's not like Steam launched with even a quarter of the nonsense that bloats up the client today, and people hated it back then even when there wasn't competition.
I can't speak to your specific case, and there's some weird nonsense when it comes to things like repeated login attempts locking me out of my account even when only I have access to the 2FA, but that doesn't sound like a common issue from what little I can glean from Google searching.
This, the quote is kept really quite vague and can easily just be Epic giving skybound money for exclusivity and nothing more.
Skybound was already working on putting the team back together months ago. It's not clear how direct Epic's involvement is, and the quote doesn't make it any clearer.
I'm really confused about the complaining going on here. Epic is funding the completion of the final season, has hired on the original team, and their store will give these devs a larger cut than Steam. Also, if you bought the game originally on Steam, the remaining episode(s) will still be available to you on Steam so there is no change for you.
Hell, I was a console gamer until a year ago. The day I set up my rig, I downloaded Steam, Battle.net, Uplay, GoG, Origin, and the Epic store. I have been going between all of these storefronts for the last year and it has never been an issue. And considering how popular Fortnite is, I imagine a lot of PC players already have the damn thing installed anyway.
Hell, I was a console gamer until a year ago. The day I set up my rig, I downloaded Steam, Battle.net, Uplay, GoG, Origin, and the Epic store. I have been going between all of these storefronts for the last year and it has never been an issue. And considering how popular Fortnite is, I imagine a lot of PC players already have the damn thing installed anyway.
You don't see the difference? One is free. Like, costs you no money, free. Like instead of reading this reply you could download the client that costs nothing and then create an account that costs nothing, free. The other costs hundreds of dollars. That's why console players complain like crazy, because if somebody owns one console and not the other, and an exclusive on the other tickles their fancy, they just don't play that exclusive because it costs hundreds of dollars. That's why console players complain like crazy, because it's not free.
Again, in the time that it took you to read this, you could have made an Epic account for free.
If iam not wrong, the walking dead's final season was already confirmed to be coming to its announced platforms.. so iam not sure WHY would they need 'funding' regardless. The thing that only makes sense is that the 'funding' you're likely talking about is epic moneyhatting the developers to release their game on Epic's platform exclusively. I see no other way.
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Honestly I wouldn’t. I want devs to exploit consoles fixed hardware the best they can, and target their games to that specific system. The more console exclusives the better.
They are offering something, a bigger cut of the revenue for developers.
It’s also a bit different to charge money for a new handheld.
I think people may be overestimating Epic's role in saving the final season. Why would they not be announced as the "savior" alongside Skybound in the first place if they really played such an integral role?
Telltale has a free cloud save system, which as of now is still up. Just used it a couple of weeks ago to transfer my TWD S2 saves from PC to TWD: ANF on PS4.
"Epic are funding it" is disingenuous.
Other instances of Epic store exclusives made similar statements. Games that were already well into development and already announced for Steam.
They aren't paying for these games to be developed. They are paying for them to not be released on Steam.
Customers who bought the season pass on Steam funded this game more than Epic did.
If Epic funded them, why are these new Epic funded chapters being published by Skybound on consoles?
Edit: I would love to see Epic funding games that they publish. They should just be games that are announced as exclusives from Day one, and they should be actually exclusive to the Epic store, rather than just paying developers of existing announced games to cancel plans to put their games on Steam.
I find this take incredibly brazen, but whatever floats your boat.
Fair play to Epic for helping to get the game finished (if this is actually true and not some marketing spin) and honouring the purchases originally made on Steam.
For anyone like me that hadn't purchased it, this is another miss.
I can't support a service providing the most minimal in support, functionality and features. The outlook based on their own timeline still looks grim, with basic features only showing up at the end of 2019. If they want to compete for my money and custom, they have to do far far better, and actually compete with services like Steam at a service level
For anyone like me that hadn't purchased it, this is another miss.
I can't support a service providing the most minimal in support, functionality and features. The outlook based on their own timeline still looks grim, with basic features only showing up at the end of 2019. If they want to compete for my money and custom, they have to do far far better, and actually compete with services like Steam at a service level
I'm very excited to see Epic Games entering the PC market that desperately needed competition and already having a big impact on the market. Can't wait to see what good they'll bring next :)
It's just a shame that they're avoiding competing with steam by securing a monopoly on all these games.
So you would be OK to pay 3 to 5 times on the Epic store than on Steam?
Do the folk that regularly scream "competition" actually play on PC?
I think this is an extremely presumptuous and ignorant take frankly.