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The War of the two Aladdin
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Toy Story 2 on PS1. It's not even a question. The Genesis Toy Story game is similar garbage to the Genesis Aladdin. It cares more about "looking good" than being an interesting and well designed game.
Toy Story 2 is an incredibly easy but pretty solid 3D platformer for its time. It can still be enjoyable even now.
They either haven't or they've played the game enough to become desensitized to its amateur-hour flaws.
I go for the one that plays better. SNES you have my vote.
Someone should attempt a fan game that merges the art of the genesis game with the gameplay if the SNES game. It would sell MILLIONS.
Someone should attempt a fan game that merges the art of the genesis game with the gameplay if the SNES game. It would sell MILLIONS.
SNES game is a jack of all trades that is ultimately more concerned with portraying all the aspects of the show, but without tying it all into a cohesive experience and fleshing out all those different elements. Genesis game just focuses on being damn good arcade action.
I thought for sure the Mega Drive (Genesis) version would landslide this, so I'm really glad it's as close as it is.
I honestly enjoyed the flow of the Capcom (SNES) version much better, even though I recognise that Virgin's effort is more ambitious and important.
I honestly enjoyed the flow of the Capcom (SNES) version much better, even though I recognise that Virgin's effort is more ambitious and important.
SNES game is way better; it's precisely and carefully designed whereas the Mega Drive game is slapdash, with frequent unfair deaths (thanks to wonky collision detection) and frustrating sequences. Still enjoyable, but there's no contest for me.
Easy choice for me.
One is an incredible game (Genesis one), the other one is very Meh.. (SNES one)
One is an incredible game (Genesis one), the other one is very Meh.. (SNES one)
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Exactly. It's not even just a matter of #of colours onscreen, it's the choice of colours and how they are combined to produce aesthetically pleasing visuals.
And Capcom's Abu is a masterclass in pixel art: they injected so much character in that 8x8 pixels monkey face it blew my mind back then.
As for the gameplay, SNES Aladdin has a great flow and while it's a bit by the numbers it is at least done competently.
I don't understand, the game is really easy.
The only hard part was the magic carpet level.
I beated the game multiple times
Perhaps the game is harder in USA version (i played PAL one)
I don't know, I've only played the PAL one, and thought it was pretty stupid hard. The collision detection was a constant issue, especially in the lava cave, and felt like I was fighting the assets as much as the actual platforming and combat design. The game's got a bunch of blind jumps, and moving platforms that don't spawn until you get close enough, leading to cheap deaths if you don't know these levels by heart. Seems pretty by design though, because the game also likes to guide your jumps with visible apples, only for that trajectory to lead straight into hazards.
Funny enough, I thought the magic carpet section was the most reasonable section in the entire game. It's fast, but relatively simple, responsive, and telegraphs every obstacle. The only thing you have to know is that "?" always means down, but that's just another way the game punishes new players for no reason to drag the game out.
I played both games this year, for the first time, back to back. I had more fun playing the SNES version because the gameplay is superior, however the graphics are clearly superior on the Genesis version (as some of you mentioned).
Now, if there was a version which mixes the SNES gameplay and the Genesis visuals... that would take the cake for me.
I've only played the SNES game so my vote wouldn't be fair anyway.
But as someone who only looked at videos and read articles from the Sega version (like the ones in OP) I do think there are points where you can assess fairly where one is better than the other.
The Virgin game has steller animation, there's no denying that, sound however is super jarring coming from the SNES, low quality cheap sound from the MD really gives the impression of a "muddier" soundtrack that is hampered by the hardware.
The game pacing also seems very different (gotta go fast !) but since both rely a bit on die&retry it looks a bit more unfair on Megadrive.
Colors are also much more vibrant on SNES while on the Virgin game it feels more washed out.
Both were good games though, so with nostalgia factor the one you played when you were younger is guaranteed to get your vote :p
But as someone who only looked at videos and read articles from the Sega version (like the ones in OP) I do think there are points where you can assess fairly where one is better than the other.
The Virgin game has steller animation, there's no denying that, sound however is super jarring coming from the SNES, low quality cheap sound from the MD really gives the impression of a "muddier" soundtrack that is hampered by the hardware.
The game pacing also seems very different (gotta go fast !) but since both rely a bit on die&retry it looks a bit more unfair on Megadrive.
Colors are also much more vibrant on SNES while on the Virgin game it feels more washed out.
Both were good games though, so with nostalgia factor the one you played when you were younger is guaranteed to get your vote :p
the snes game had to be one of the most forgettable "good" games i've played from that era. a solid capcom platformer to pass the weekend then i never thought about it again
even at the height of nintendo vs sega playground wars not even nintendo kids cared to go to bat for it. i don't think it was ever a question the game was "better" just nowhere near as memorable or popular as the MD/Genesis game
even at the height of nintendo vs sega playground wars not even nintendo kids cared to go to bat for it. i don't think it was ever a question the game was "better" just nowhere near as memorable or popular as the MD/Genesis game
Genesis version for the graphic and a more comfortable controller imho that went perfect with this game. And yes even if the Aladdin gameplay is a tighter on SNES I'll still choose Genesis version for the better all around experience.
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Never liked the Mega Drive game. It looks great, but the gameplay is just not great. Everything feels imprecise. The SNES game is actually fun to play.
Very true.
Very true.
People saying this is Nintendo vs Sega forget the GameBoy version was based on the Virgin game. ;)
I remember seeing images of Aladdin for the Mega Drive when I was younger, not realising there were two different versions so when I got the SNES version I was partly confused why it looked so different. Really enjoyed the game and it was a great achievement to beat that lava escape level. Played it so much I could eventually beat it all in one go (and then discovered the secret credits sequence).
Not really played the Virgin one, so can't really compare the two.
I remember seeing images of Aladdin for the Mega Drive when I was younger, not realising there were two different versions so when I got the SNES version I was partly confused why it looked so different. Really enjoyed the game and it was a great achievement to beat that lava escape level. Played it so much I could eventually beat it all in one go (and then discovered the secret credits sequence).
Not really played the Virgin one, so can't really compare the two.
Only had a SNES growing up. I rented Aladdin once and beat it pretty easily. It was fun, but nothing memorable.
However, my cousin had Aladdin on Genesis and I would play that all the time.
Personally, when it comes to average platformers on the 8 and 16 bit consoles, a slight edge in gameplay doesn't make a huge difference. Maybe the SNES version has a little better gameplay and control, but the overall package of the Genesis makes it a better game. The art and animation looked closer to the film. The game nailed the aesthetic and atmosphere for each level. The music was a decent approximation and the original tracks really shine and fit perfectly with the property.
I would pick the Genesis version every day of the week.
However, my cousin had Aladdin on Genesis and I would play that all the time.
Personally, when it comes to average platformers on the 8 and 16 bit consoles, a slight edge in gameplay doesn't make a huge difference. Maybe the SNES version has a little better gameplay and control, but the overall package of the Genesis makes it a better game. The art and animation looked closer to the film. The game nailed the aesthetic and atmosphere for each level. The music was a decent approximation and the original tracks really shine and fit perfectly with the property.
I would pick the Genesis version every day of the week.
Honestly don't see how the Genesis version isn't readable, but maybe that's just from playing it so much.I think SNES Aladdin indeed has much better and judicious use of color for the scenery.
Cave of Wonders in Genesis? Everything is blue.
On SNES you got a more dynamic range of colors and a clear division between the foreground and background elements. Also notice how the area on the ground that you actually interact with clearly stands out. OTOH what is this mess?
About the same thing happens with the use of color during the lava sections
This just speaks to Capcom's expertise and know-how when it comes crafting this sort of game.
The only real bullshit level, like I mentioned earlier is the dungeon level.
I have so much nostalgia for the Genesis Toy Story (dem graphx) but I will admit I lose interest in it fairly quickly if I try to replay it nowadays.
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Another example of impressive visuals vs. an actually good game.
Uh, I don't really get what you're going for here but the games play so differently that you wouldn't be able to use the animations from the Genesis game for a game with the SNES Aladdin gameplay.
I own Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue on PS1, PC, and DC and maybe it's just my copy since I never saw this complaint online but the deadzone for running in a straight line in that version of the game was so damn finicky, it made a massive difference in the worst way possible for me. I don't think it was my controller since other DC games play fine for me.
Yeah, basically.
Thankfully, that's hardly an unpopular opinion nowadays.
Just remembered this today - I was reading this thread when I was banned and it was somewhat frustrating. I've played both, and I think the Genesis version has more interesting gameplay and level design. Sure, it's got some non-standard rules for collision detection, especially noticeable in the dungeon and lava level, but it's something you can get used to. And as someone who doesn't care for Earthworm Jim, it never got close to as bad as that. And sure, it isn't lore-accurate, lol. The levels have more secrets and they have far more variety in them; the Agrabah levels exemplify that. Enemy encounters are a little more interesting because you can reflect knives with your sword, your apples get cut up by their swords, swords clash. SNES version is more polished, lore-accurate, and has paragliding, but it's way too easy and enemies may as well not exist. It's also super slow in terms of normal gameplay (I heard it's been speedrun four times, so there's got to be something worthwhile there). That said, it's got a far better final boss.
I think what some people mean by it feeling like an 8-bit game is sort of like how Twin Snakes is basically a Playstation game at its core although that's an imperfect comparison. And the focus on bouncing does aesthetically call back to Ducktales.
I think what some people mean by it feeling like an 8-bit game is sort of like how Twin Snakes is basically a Playstation game at its core although that's an imperfect comparison. And the focus on bouncing does aesthetically call back to Ducktales.
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I was so jealous of the Genesis kids with this one growing up. Aladdin actually felt like a badass with a sword. Really couldn't get into the SNES one.
