The White House Correspondents Dinner 2018 [Hosted by Michelle Wolf]

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As much as the roast made me happy, it probably would've been more effective if she hadn't been as crude as she was last night. Loved Hasan Minhaj's standup last year.

TV media can't even air a good portion of her stand-ups because they're literally too vulgar, and so the Americans that were asleep during the bit who constantly consume TV media are just gonna hear (1) how news stations can't play many parts of the standup and (2) how mean and vulgar and controversial it was.

Further, even liberal media is on Wolf's ass about her skit's vulgarity, like Mika and Haberman. Which means Americans across the political spectrum are going to be watching talking heads actively trying to delegitimize or ignore any messages Wolf hoped to communicate.

I am scared that this might politically backfire. I'm also beginning to think that the WHCA is just going to abandon asking comedians to come roast in future years (which would be kind of ironic given the event's emphasis on free speech and all).
Yeah, people are gonna turn red because a comedian said Ivanka is full of shit, but be ok when the president calls Kaepernick a son of a bitch.

The people you're worried about don't exist. Those are just Republicans that are too ashamed to admit it.

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This is the biggest reaction for a dinner since that one for sure and that one was huge.
I remember a lot of indignation surrounding Wilmore and his dismantling of the press and how he addressed Obama at the end. One of my favorite WHCD sets for sure.
 

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As much as the roast made me happy, it probably would've been more effective if she hadn't been as crude as she was last night. Loved Hasan Minhaj's standup last year.

TV media can't even air a good portion of her stand-ups because they're literally too vulgar, and so the Americans that were asleep during the bit who constantly consume TV media are just gonna hear (1) how news stations can't play many parts of the standup and (2) how mean and vulgar and controversial it was.

Further, even liberal media is on Wolf's ass about her skit's vulgarity, like Mika and Haberman. Which means Americans across the political spectrum are going to be watching talking heads actively trying to delegitimize or ignore any messages Wolf hoped to communicate.

I am scared that this might politically backfire. I'm also beginning to think that the WHCA is just going to abandon asking comedians to come roast in future years (which would be kind of ironic given the event's emphasis on free speech and all).
Mika and Maggie Haberman should be no one’s liberal barometers
 

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I think a lot of media folks were shook at her last remarks on how everyone in that room profits off of Trump and everything he does and says. Stating the truth is uncomfortable sometimes I guess.
 

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The audience was spooked and the media tried to paint it as "unfunny" and "offensive".

I recommend watching it again. It's noticeable just how tame Colbert was in comparison to Wolf yesterday. Yet they both touched the media's collective nerve by pointing out their complicity in the serious situation the country is in. That is what really pissed people off.

THAT caused a controversy? Considering the biggest war crime of this century was one of the topics that was one hell of a tame speech by Colbert (still hilarious though).
 

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The audience was spooked and the media tried to paint it as "unfunny" and "offensive".

I recommend watching it again. It's noticeable just how tame Colbert was in comparison to Wolf yesterday. Yet they both touched the media's collective nerve by pointing out their complicity in the serious situation the country is in. That is what really pissed people off.

Savage, but I'd forgotten how unfunny that (unneeded) taped segment was. I still think they hired Colbert thinking his character was the real person. And even though he performed as his character, he still skewered Bush as if he were praising him.
 

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As much as the roast made me happy, it probably would've been more effective if she hadn't been as crude as she was last night. Loved Hasan Minhaj's standup last year.

TV media can't even air a good portion of her stand-ups because they're literally too vulgar, and so the Americans that were asleep during the bit who constantly consume TV media are just gonna hear (1) how news stations can't play many parts of the standup and (2) how mean and vulgar and controversial it was.

Further, even liberal media is on Wolf's ass about her skit's vulgarity, like Mika and Haberman. Which means Americans across the political spectrum are going to be watching talking heads actively trying to delegitimize or ignore any messages Wolf hoped to communicate.

I am scared that this might politically backfire. I'm also beginning to think that the WHCA is just going to abandon asking comedians to come roast in future years (which would be kind of ironic given the event's emphasis on free speech and all).
Stop being fucking scared of the same old shit. Some of you act like Wolf ventured into untread taboo land. Nah she was telling it like it is and the Right is acting like it always does to anything by anyone liberal calling them out.

Some of you must be scared of your own shadows from the way you talk
 

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Stop being fucking scared of the same old shit. Some of you act like Wolf ventured into untread taboo land. Nah she was telling it like it is and the Right is acting like it always does to anything by anyone liberal calling them out.

THat response is exactly what they want. The left getting scared when pushed back on by the right when someone challenges their bs more forcefully. They want the left to be scared and toothless, unable to properly challenge their aggressive style of nonsense and bullying tactics.
And it worked for decades.
 

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Stop being fucking scared of the same old shit. Some of you act like Wolf ventured into untread taboo land. Nah she was telling it like it is and the Right is acting like it always does to anything by anyone liberal calling them out.

Some of you must be scared of your own shadows from the way you talk
i mean yea, i hope i'm wrong. i'm just calling out what i'm seeing and how i think much of the masses will react. not everyone in america, whether liberals or conservatives, are as sophisticated and omniscient as the left-wing resetera activist, and many americans vote per what they hear on talk radio and local news.

plus michelle wolf did venture into taboo land for the WHCD, and that's one of the reasons she's being vilified across the media. lots of liberals are still about the PC culture and don't wanna get dirty, and conservatives are gonna defend master trump anyway regardless of how hypocritical it makes them.
 

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Amazing how some in media are rushing to the defense of SHS. Guess they don't want to lose that access.
 

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i mean yea, i hope i'm wrong. i'm just calling out what i'm seeing and how i think much of the masses will react. not everyone in america, whether liberals or conservatives, are as sophisticated and omniscient as the left-wing resetera activist, and many americans vote per what they hear on talk radio and local news.

plus michelle wolf did venture into taboo land for the WHCD, and that's one of the reasons she's being vilified across the media. lots of liberals are still about the PC culture and don't wanna get dirty, and conservatives are gonna defend master trump anyway regardless of how hypocritical it makes them.
The people who got offended were gonna get offended no matter what unless she went up there and verbally felated Donald Trump the entire time. Don't be afraid of some reaction that's never going to come just like their boycotts and protests don't amount to much considering every other counter example out there.
 

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i mean yea, i hope i'm wrong. i'm just calling out what i'm seeing and how i think much of the masses will react. not everyone in america, whether liberals or conservatives, are as sophisticated and omniscient as the left-wing resetera activist, and many americans vote per what they hear on talk radio and local news.

plus michelle wolf did venture into taboo land for the WHCD, and that's one of the reasons she's being vilified across the media. lots of liberals are still about the PC culture and don't wanna get dirty, and conservatives are gonna defend master trump anyway regardless of how hypocritical it makes them.
Nobody will care about this in like 2 days. The problem with the left is yes you guys DO worry too much about "optics"
The base doesn't give two fucks about SHS considering she continually trots her ass up there and throws out lies. Some in the media are showing their ASSES right now trying to jump over tables to cry foul.

A good point has been brought up though. Sure the WHCD is supposed to be a funny event, but why in God's name are we cool with those in journalism schmoozing with people they should be reporting on?
 

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The audience was spooked and the media tried to paint it as "unfunny" and "offensive".

I recommend watching it again. It's noticeable just how tame Colbert was in comparison to Wolf yesterday. Yet they both touched the media's collective nerve by pointing out their complicity in the serious situation the country is in. That is what really pissed people off.

Truth

 

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Stop being fucking scared of the same old shit. Some of you act like Wolf ventured into untread taboo land. Nah she was telling it like it is and the Right is acting like it always does to anything by anyone liberal calling them out.

Some of you must be scared of your own shadows from the way you talk
It really highlights just how complicit the "liberal" media is in propping up Trump. They want an evening where everyone can smile along with how people like Trump, Sanders, Conway, Priebus etc are literally destroying our democracy and the country as a whole. Fuck everyone who doesn't speak the truth in fear of showing "bias".
 

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The only jokes that were in poor tastes were the ones about abortion and they're barely registering on the outrage meter today. Surprise, conservatives don't give a shit about fetuses afterall...

Fuck the Stockholm syndrome-suffering media for falling over themselves to defend SHS. I can think of few people less deserving of respect than her. The deplorables might be on to something. Maybe the mainstream media are indeed trash.
 

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Amazing how some in media are rushing to the defense of SHS. Guess they don't want to lose that access.
Funny thing is... what access? Bunch of "Uhhh, I'm not sure. You'll have to ask the President about that.", "facts" that are soon contradicted by Donny's tweets, and a constant stream of regurgitated bullshit.
 
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Interesting that no one is reacting to her joke about McConnels looks and instead focus on her non-existing jokes about Sanders looks.
 
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HStallion

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Let's also be real here. They aren't going to find any person on the conservative side that is going to be able to do such a comedy routine in reverse. Or worse they come some other far uglier route and the thing becomes a true PR nightmare. The best they could do is find someone they know will be as totally inoffensive as possible but even then I think they'd still be pissed off for a knock knock joke that went too far.
 

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Nobody will care about this in like 2 days. The problem with the left is yes you guys DO worry too much about "optics"
The base doesn't give two fucks about SHS considering she continually trots her ass up there and throws out lies. Some in the media are showing their ASSES right now trying to jump over tables to cry foul.

A good point has been brought up though. Sure the WHCD is supposed to be a funny event, but why in God's name are we cool with those in journalism schmoozing with people they should be reporting on?
Hope youre right
 
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Yep. Go to hell CNN, NBC, the New York Times, and all you bastards.
This is my take too. That access rumor floating around makes a LOT more sense if Slanders or her office was leakers yet talked undemocratic horseshit on-camera on the bosses' orders. Both parties "win" and will continue the dance tomorrow.

The problem here shown off by Wolff is that the TITANIC revelations in Kremlingate and evidence of corruption flowing from the cabinet gets half-shaded out by this. We should be seeing this death spiral happen much quicker than it has but this conTROVersy-for-gaslighting (if true) bogs that down fromits rightful place up front.
 

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Just saw a CNN segment titled "The Big Bad Wolf"

Man going to be something watching them stab for Trump in 2020
 

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I'm not sure I understand the narrative that the media are complicit in the election of Trump. He was winning the primaries and the news was reporting it. And not enthusiastically if you weren't Fox News.
 

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Michelle Wolf has been killing it for years now and the thing I love about all this dumb controversy is that it’s only going to make her a (much deserved) household name and give her more opportunities. Hyped for her Netflix show!
 

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I think she killed it. The figurative balls it takes to roast these people this extensively to their faces (in some cases) is admirable to say the least loved the handmaidens take joke not sure the lady’s name (in blue) her face was priceless.
 

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I'm not sure I understand the narrative that the media are complicit in the election of Trump. He was winning the primaries and the news was reporting it. And not enthusiastically if you weren't Fox News.

Well before the primaries, the media was all to happy to report on "Look what Donald Trump said this time!" stories. Not only did they give him loads of free advertisement for his ramblings, but they normalized him to such a degree that when you challenge a Trump supporter about a Trump remark, they simply say "You can't listen to everything he says." He was a clown that they made a canddiate and then a candidate that they made a challenger and then a challenger that they helped into the White House all because it brought more watches and clicks.

Needless to say, I'm pretty happy with anyone using the term "complicit" when it comes to the media's role in Trumps ascendancy.
 

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The abortion joke is so good, the setup for that 1.6m hush money punchline and you can sense the douchchilles rush across the room
 
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I'm not sure I understand the narrative that the media are complicit in the election of Trump. He was winning the primaries and the news was reporting it. And not enthusiastically if you weren't Fox News.
The weird phenomenon of Trump meant that they could get a ton of eyes on screens covering essentially anything he did, and so ultimately everything he did was covered at length. Basically every single campaign event he held ended up broadcast, every dumb thing he said was dissected over and over, we started watching discussion panels have to become explicitly right-wing weighted because you couldn't just do Democrats vs Republicans anymore, you needed Democrats vs Republicans vs Trumpers. There was that one time he managed to get the media to live air footage of an empty podium for a long-ass time, then come out and do what amounted to a commercial advertising the new Trump hotel and then dropping some short comments semi-renouncing birtherism and leaving while refusing to answer questions.

Add in them wanting to not seem biased, meaning treating minor Clinton flare-ups as equal in severity to the stupid shit Trump was doing, and the chase for ratings ended up helping Trump suck the air out of everything. Add in that any time he managed to make it through a speech sounding almost not incompetent the media would latch on to the pivot narrative... I'm relatively sure all involved thought it wouldn't matter and that Clinton would still win, but ultimately they did a lot to get Trump's lies out there.
 

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I'm not sure I understand the narrative that the media are complicit in the election of Trump. He was winning the primaries and the news was reporting it. And not enthusiastically if you weren't Fox News.
The kept giving Trump way more attention than anyone. Basically, giving him free publicly.

There's a reason Trump's empty podium was a short lived meme
 

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There’s a handful of journalists that I’m beginning to doubt in the wake of eyeshadow gate. Huckabee Slanders does not deserve your outrage on her behalf, she shovels shit into the brains of Americans each and every day, and the entirety of Wolf’s comments about her were calling out those lies. Wolf is a hero.
 

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THat response is exactly what they want. The left getting scared when pushed back on by the right when someone challenges their bs more forcefully. They want the left to be scared and toothless, unable to properly challenge their aggressive style of nonsense and bullying tactics.
And it worked for decades.
100% this.

It's astonishing how these people fall into the same fucking trap over and over. The right portrays themselves as both victims and bullies, and the left allows it to happen constantly, cowering down when they're in their bully phase and standing with them when they turn themselves into victims, with the media (even "left wing" media) allowing them to control and dominate the conversation.

I'm fucking sick of it.
 

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Trump never apologizes for the awful shit he says, so why should Michelle feel bad?


Isn't the general rule of comedy to punch up and not down?
 

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I'm not sure I understand the narrative that the media are complicit in the election of Trump. He was winning the primaries and the news was reporting it. And not enthusiastically if you weren't Fox News.
They aired Trump rallies completely. They ran Hillary email bullshit every fucking day they could. They relied on "omg did you hear what Trump said" too much instead of actually delving into his shitty policies and reporting on that.

And really the biggest of all is just the media's incessant need to seem unbiased which gives cover to the craziest of the crazies like Trump. They basically try to cover everything the same as though it's a fully formed plan and being argued in full faith.

The media made Trump, helped him get elected, and now profits off him. They're too fucking scared to piss off the lying sacks of shit gatekeepers so they pretend to be offended right along with SHS so they don't lose their access.
 

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I'm not sure I understand the narrative that the media are complicit in the election of Trump. He was winning the primaries and the news was reporting it. And not enthusiastically if you weren't Fox News.
In addition to giving him a ton of free press, they ran with the clinton email bullshit a lot and invited Trump surrogates on who would outright lie or have no actual arguments. The image of remaining impartial was more important than calling them out.
 

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I still don't fully see it that way but I appreciate the responses and I'll put them under consideration.
 

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Some epic kills here. The caustic little buttons after the punchline are just perfect.

"I know, he almost got elected" is all time.
 

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Reading reactions from the conservatives has been the funniest thing in a while. Poor things can't make up their minds.