View: https://twitter.com/witchergame/status/1592179599886417920
This is really bad news. I don't get how companies that are PC oriented still don't get these simple things.
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The Witcher 3 Next-Gen Version apparently won't be separate version on PC (update: original version can still be downloaded on Steam and GOG)
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View: https://twitter.com/witchergame/status/1592179599886417920
This is really bad news. I don't get how companies that are PC oriented still don't get these simple things.
What's the big deal? If it's just options, it's alright. I don't think they'll make drastic changes to the textures or the content.
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New version could be potentially more demanding, break mods and overall it should be separate for archival purposes.
It's probably just another mode in the graphics menu. Cyberpunk already did this.
Not sure what the big deal is.
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It's not just another mode in graphics menu. That is not how things work. They probably updated engine and many other things that could cause issues. One example is that original version could potentially run way better on Steam Deck but if they just replace it then Deck owners will get worse deal. i can say a lot about 2K but they are kinda only company that actually did things right and kept original versions of their remastered games and actually gave them with new purchases of their remasters. That is why if you don't like changes or you have issues in Mafia 2 Definitive Edition (Or Bioshock 1 and 2) you can always play original release.
How about you wait and see before you raise your flag to be outraged? Like, cmon.
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Wait for what? I want to have original version of the game available.
Maybe entertain the thought that it could also work better than the old version.
Let's wait and see, then be outraged if it comes out cooked. Out of all developers I'm sure CDPR would fix the situation.
People just explained it to you. It could be just a toggle, but it also just could be more and with how long they worked on this, there's probably a bit more behind it and we already had situations like with RE 2 where the newer version replaced the old one and it ran like shit on many systems, including the Steam Deck.
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If it is an Update and game gets updated and breaks modded version of the game and CDPR then decided to reverse things they will just piss people. So it's better to tell them before release not to do it. On their side it means nothing if they release it as separate version (at least on Steam where it is easy to make it separate product and add it to the library of previous owners).
What's the difference between this and any other update besides scope?
Any update, no matter how small can cause issues that were not there in the previous version.
Should dev create a new Steam listing for literally every update they do to 'preserve' the old version?
Any update, no matter how small can cause issues that were not there in the previous version.
Should dev create a new Steam listing for literally every update they do to 'preserve' the old version?
but people hated it when skyrim special did it, because it DID break the mods and break the community in half
Could cause potential issues, and with it being the only version there would be no way to go back to the older version where those issues didn't exist
This happened with Resident Evil 2 on PC, and eventually Capcom allowed people to chose to play the older version if they wanted
This is what I was thinking. If it releases and breaks all the mods than I can understand, but I doubt that happens and if it did we don't have enough info to get mad about it right now.
Download and archive the version on GOG right now if that's what you want.
Maybe it's left a bad taste in my mouth from the disaster that was the re2 updated, but they could end up coming with a dumpster fire of a release version that also doesn't run on hardware or used to have no issue with on.
You'd hope they'd at least have like a dx11/vulkan/dx12 option before the game launches, but we've seen disasters before lol.
Who's getting mad. This is not unprecedented and I don't see the issue of suggesting a method that works for everyone.
The concept of voicing concerns is not solely for the sake of getting mad, it's to convey a potential issue that can be remedied before it may be too late.
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This is significant update to the game. You can;t just add Ray Tracing to the almost decade old version of the engine. And yes some of the developers allow you to pick version of the game you want to run on Steam because as i said before it costs them nothing and it is very easy to set up via Steam backend.
Skyrim had issues with their releases in few ways. First it wasn't free unless you owned all DLCs, second Special Edition allowed better modding if i remember correctly because they moved to 64bit executable. And third they left older version alone so everyone who wanted to mod and play that version could do it.
I own game on Steam.
I was going to say, yeah, you can download the entire installer for the GOG version and store it for future use.
This. If you're inclined to keep and archive the original un-updated version and be able to play it later, you can actually do that right now since on gog it's drm free.
Doesn't GoG let you download previous versions of games? For Cyberpunk you are (or were when I last looked) able to download any past version of the game. Aren't GoG games also drm free? So there would definitely be an older version available to download online. This seems like it could be a non issue?
yeah that's disappointing...I wanted a complete ground up rebuild of the game with ray-tracing...Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition feels like a new game
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Don't think it's neccessarily a problem if it's a toggle for RT, which is likely. Not sure if there are other improvements that could bump up requirements, I hope it's not an RE situation where there was outcry enough to bring back the past versions. I'd hope CDPR would be better than Capcom though tbh when it comes to PC releases, so not expecting this to be a problem.
Not really a problem considering it's a GOG game, so no DRM and you can just download the old version before the update and save that client.
Disappointing, but not unexpected.
I still have my Witcher 3 Steam install with something like 50 mods enabled from my last play-through in 2019.
I had spent a good amount of time finding mods that were compatible with the last version of the game - as each game update can be mod-breaking.
I had done the usual mod compatibility tweaking, played with mod scripts, etc.
I really like where my game is at, and I had hoped I could just start a third play-through one day with everything sorted and ready to go. Seems this will not be the case.
I still have my Witcher 3 Steam install with something like 50 mods enabled from my last play-through in 2019.
I had spent a good amount of time finding mods that were compatible with the last version of the game - as each game update can be mod-breaking.
I had done the usual mod compatibility tweaking, played with mod scripts, etc.
I really like where my game is at, and I had hoped I could just start a third play-through one day with everything sorted and ready to go. Seems this will not be the case.
Good. I don't need the same game taking up two library slots. This is basically just a huge patch tbh.
How does this help me on Steam?
I know Witcher 2 had a thing where you could take your Steam key and redeem it for a GOG copy, but I'm not seeing the same for 3, unless I'm missing it.
Cyberpunk 2077 has the most robust raytracing implementation in gaming and it's a toggle, I wouldn't worry about that limiting the experience.
Last I checked people who own the game on Steam can redeem it on GOG for free.
Yeah and they've been working years on this update, I wouldn't rule anything out before seeing it. They've had time to upgrade materials, lighting etc.
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