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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt — Complete Edition | Next-Gen Update Trailer
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For all the "hope it's not just RT shadows" comments done prior to this reveal, I do find the fact that the game won't have them a little disappointing. I think the equal softness shadow maps are now a visual flaw that kinda sticks out, especially at the oblique sun angles the game likes to use.
This would look much better if the shadow had a proper sharpness fallover across the length of it.
This would look much better if the shadow had a proper sharpness fallover across the length of it.
I couldn't match the lighting up exactly but there's still a clear visual upgrade:
https://imgsli.com/MTM1Nzk3
https://imgsli.com/MTM1Nzk4
(PC running at max settings 4K)
The change from Skellige foamy water streams to stillwater seems like an artistic downgrade. 🙄
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So far all we know is they implemented a new camera mode and made switching between signs much faster and seamless without pause ( I love that). Nothing else on combat.
I am very confident they have actually worked on the actual lighting + more, and that the differences will be apparent whether any raytracing effects are on or not. It does not appear that they simply extended the fog distance and then threw RT GI + AO on top of things.
I don't think it's been so apparent yet simply due to the fact that they chose to respect the overall look of the original rather than creating a brand new look, but as more direct comparisons come out it will be noticeable.
Thanks, that gives me some hope. I'd rather play at 60fps, but I also think the original's lighting really needs some upgrades.
They changed most materials. The HD Reworked mod already changes thousands of materials and meshes, and they built on top of that for this patch.
The art style obviously stays the same.
Being able to hide and bring up the mini-map is pretty much the only update I needed. Hopefully the map and menus are smoother on consoles, too.
And turning off map markers by default will mean newbies don't have an awful initial experience and play the game like Assassin's Creed.
So I'm happy even before the ray tracing and graphical tweaks.
And turning off map markers by default will mean newbies don't have an awful initial experience and play the game like Assassin's Creed.
So I'm happy even before the ray tracing and graphical tweaks.
yeah tbh i think i prefer the old look of the game..
maybe i'll try it if they make good use of DualSense, the real next-gen feature. any word on that?
maybe i'll try it if they make good use of DualSense, the real next-gen feature. any word on that?
Yeah, I doubt they fully got rid of all of the faked lighting techniques simply because that would require completely rebalancing all of the lighting throughout the entire game, but it does seem more balanced.
Of course, they could have just cherry picked great looking scenes to show off the update lol.
edit: one of the worst things about the original is there was a invisible light source attached to Geralt during gameplay that made him "glow" to stand out more in any lighting condition, which of course is not good especially in darker scenes. There were mods that removed it as well as other fake lights, but I hope these changes are simply built right into the next gen update so mods are not required.
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For all the "hope it's not just RT shadows" comments done prior to this reveal, I do find the fact that the game won't have them a little disappointing. I think the equal softness shadow maps are now a visual flaw that kinda sticks out, especially at the oblique sun angles the game likes to use.
This would look much better if the shadow had a proper sharpness fallover across the length of it.
Maybe it's different for the sun light source, but I'm pretty sure there are RT shadows at least indoors.
Look at this Radovid scene how there are shadows in places where there wasn't before.
That's the announced RTAO doing its work.Maybe it's different for the sun light source, but I'm pretty sure there are RT shadows at least indoors.
Look at this Radovid scene how there are shadows in places where there wasn't before.
They have really only talked about the console versions - they are not gonna show off PC in its full as they do not want the console players to feel left out. Mark my words, the PC version has more RT effects than RTXGI/DDGI and RTAO.
I think it may actually have ray traced shadows. Looking at this scene, the shadows from the bushes nearby are very sharp, but the shadows just ahead from the taller trees in the distance are very soft. As the player gets closer it looks as if they begin to blend together rather than the soft shadows becoming just as sharp. Hard to tell and could just be the way the shadows work, but the scene is at about 16:37.
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sorry for the late reply. its $10 for the game of the year edition which includes all the DLC, at least in the US.
It looks amazing, hopefulyl i can get my gf that loves the show to play it on the ps5 (have it on pc and on switch, but she doesnt want to play it there)
The only thing im really sad about, and that would have made me do another playthrough as soon as it released is finally having a spanish dub (maybe even with the voices of geralt, yeneffer, jaskier and ciri from the show. I love 99% of the thronebreaker spanish dub, but geralt sticks like a sore thumb of mediocrity becuase he was chosen first by capcom for monster hunter). Seeing them adding a chinese dub but not a spanish one hurts, not gonna lie. All their games have been dubbed to spanish after the witcher 3, even thronebreaker, so I was waiting for them to actually dub this one. Alas, they didnt and seeing another country get it but not us makes me incredibly sad.
Good catch! I focussed mainly on character shadows on the environment but that looks like something that could be RT shadows. I guess we will see when the update comes out. It would certainly be a welcome addition.I think it may actually have ray traced shadows. Looking at this scene, the shadows from the bushes nearby are very sharp, but the shadows just ahead from the taller trees in the distance are very soft. As the player gets closer it looks as if they begin to blend together rather than the soft shadows becoming just as sharp. Hard to tell and could just be the way the shadows work, but the scene is at about 16:37.
This is what I was scouring the thread for, did they mention if the new version replaces the old one on Steam? I have it running exactly how I want on the Deck as is.
Realistically speaking I knew that we'll never get 2013/14 era look but man I wish they added "forward lit soft particles" to at least the PC version. It was the number one headline of all that downgrade talk. The fact that it was present in an official Nvidia presentation shows that those files are somewhere in the office hidden deep.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SpPqXdzl7g
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SpPqXdzl7g
I wish there's a way with the new cross-save option to transfer my PS4 40 hour save file to xbox !!
The thing is that on ps4 I have the vanilla version + dlc bought separately and the save file it's not the same as the GOTY version....crossing fingers...
I guess I could look for a PC save over internet roughly where I was on ps4 and then transfer it to Xbox....I was in Skellige with a lot of secondary missions done :( Dont' want to start over again...
The thing is that on ps4 I have the vanilla version + dlc bought separately and the save file it's not the same as the GOTY version....crossing fingers...
I guess I could look for a PC save over internet roughly where I was on ps4 and then transfer it to Xbox....I was in Skellige with a lot of secondary missions done :( Dont' want to start over again...
For PC it's an update to the current game, no different client or anything.
Isn't that potentially a bad thing if the new version doesn't run as well as the old version on the Deck
The potential is there, sure, but all of the changes seem to be optional, just settings above current Ultra.
yes hence why some people raised concerns in another thread which resulted in a bunch of people responding like dumbasses and refusing even the option to use the older version on Steam
Graphics are about workforce and tools / engine more than anything, this days.
And most tools / engine aren't ready yet.
I hate hero lighting and wished I could have it turn off in Horizon Forbidden West.Yeah, I doubt they fully got rid of all of the faked lighting techniques simply because that would require completely rebalancing all of the lighting throughout the entire game, but it does seem more balanced.
Of course, they could have just cherry picked great looking scenes to show off the update lol.
edit: one of the worst things about the original is there was a invisible light source attached to Geralt during gameplay that made him "glow" to stand out more in any lighting condition, which of course is not good especially in darker scenes. There were mods that removed it as well as other fake lights, but I hope these changes are simply built right into the next gen update so mods are not required.
Has anyone said anything about loading speeds ? That was the main thing that prevented me from completing the DLC's , it took so damn long. Hope they have trimmed it down to an acceptable degree.
Loading is pretty fast on PC with SSD, so I assume it will be fast on consoles too.
That's good to know at least, was worried that the textures etc would not be optional.
Not familiar with the other thread but it seems keeping the option of the older one is the sensible thing to do, even though maybe it is messy. Does Steam allow for 2 versions of the same game? My only real experience of Steam is with the Deck.
Makes sense but with their track record I can't shake the feeling of setting myself up to another disappointment - though I don't think nothing official about some uber PC version has been said.
Iirc you have to go into the game settings on steam and opt into the older version like you'd opt into a beta version. a recent example is some the resident evil games (which raised the minimum required specs with a new version supporting raytracing) :
Capcom reactivates previous versions of Resident Evil PC games after "overwhelming community response"
Capcom has reactivated the previous versions of Resident Evil 2, 3, and 7 on PC, following player feedback. After the C…
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You no longer have to go into the radial menu to use signs. Not sure about other combat improvements - check out the videos.
Cyberpunk only has RT shadows on console, which is barely worth the halving of frame rate according to many (myself included).
Considering TW3 is a significantly older game and lighter on PC hardware, I would hope we get the full suite of RT features on console this time around, albeit with some reduced quality settings.
I actually don't own this though I played the base game and was thinking of purchasing for a console. Should I read into the fact that they showed WAY more Series X footage vs. PS5, and the PS5 one looked worse (fighting the dead green woman in the churchyard). I have both platforms and want to grab it before these sales are over, because I would assume price will go back up a slight bit as they launch all the new stuff.
I've been waiting to play my 60fps run for a couple of years now, but... I might just play 30RT in the end. That Radovid shot looks great. 👀
My thoughts:
- Who the hell is going to use the ballsack armor, lol, the game version looks so much better it's embarrassing.
- The Netflix Geralt armors are okay I guess, but the new Chinese-inspired(?) armor looks sick and I'm totally going to use that.
- Shame they didn't add transmog.
- Quick-casting signs is amazing and I'm surprised it wasn't there from the get-go. This will make playing with a controller so much more comfortable.
- The new auto-hide minimap during exploration and hiding question marks from the default map view features are amazing, I'm gonna try playing the game Elden Ring-style, with no minimap whatsoever this time and not having the question marks on the big map will finally make that possible.
- I don't think they've mentioned it, but it would be a shame if they didn't include the mod that shows all quest objectives on the map, and not only the one that is currently being tracked
- Can't wait for the mod which gives Jaskier the new face and his old clothes, I never liked his moustached look and the Netflix-inspired outfit makes him look terrible. He looks the best in Witcher 2.
- Shame to hear there's not going to be RTGI on consoles in the performance mode, guess I'm staying on PC. Hope the DualSense features work on PC too (doubt it though).
- Touting fixing completely broken quests as a feature of a next-gen patch is laughable.
- Cross-saves are nice I guess
- It looks like they changed something with Hairworks, either made it more realistic or disabled it on the loose hair on Geralt. Either way, it looks much better.
I still haven't played any Witcher game but got this for 10€ after the PS5 upgrade was announced, I hope I enjoy it but I'm glad I'll be able to experience it in such great conditions!
In my opinion it's still one of the best RPG around. The world, main story and sidequests are wondeful. To this day the game has the best sidequest imo.
Look at it this way: this adds a lot of features that mods could not implement (like RTGI) and mods can now build on top of that to make it look even better.
I couldn't match the lighting up exactly but there's still a clear visual upgrade:
https://imgsli.com/MTM1Nzk3
https://imgsli.com/MTM1Nzk4
(PC running at max settings 4K)
Ooh, nice. In the top example, that's a perfect example of where RTGI can make a big difference. You're in a darkened area from the forest, and you have the bright area outside. It's just so much more dramatic and realistic than in the base game.
In the second example, it's not a huge difference, but the RTAO is definitely helping make that foliage look more realistic.
The lightning looks so much better. Appreciate the effort from you making the comparisonsHere's one more comparison, sorry couldn't find high quality of the original one.
