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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt vs The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
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If you are on PC, there is a glorious mod called Immersive Motion that, together with alternate movement response, makes control of Geralt feel perfect. There is also Alternate Horse control which vastly improves control over Roach.
I loved BOTW, but I think the key thing that dragged it down for me was this. I could write an essay about all the things that TW3 does wrong or poorly, but the things it excelled at were making me at least believe that my actions had some consequences, and making me care about the people in the world.
BOTW felt like a fun, creative sandbox...but without enough drive for me behind that creativity. The closest you get to creativity and stamping your mark on the world are probably
upgrading your house and building Tarrey Town.
I really enjoyed my time with the Witcher 3 but I honestly don't think it hangs with Breath of the Wild.
If I had to choose, I would stay with Witcher III. I find it much better game than Zelda in general and all its sections, graphics, music and others.
I liked Zelda, but I do not even think it's the game of generation. That title at the moment has it for Person 5 together with Mario Odyssey and will surely go to The Last of Us 2
I liked Zelda, but I do not even think it's the game of generation. That title at the moment has it for Person 5 together with Mario Odyssey and will surely go to The Last of Us 2
Both are great games, but if I could have only one, retrospectively, I would pick The Witcher 3. For me, a good story in a game is the most important part of the game. And Witcher 3 did a perfect job in that regard. It's still one of my favorite stories ever told in a video game. I also had more fun exploring the Witcher 3 world, than I did in BotW. The wold felt much more alive, the random npcs created an immersion of actually doing their own thing, instead of just hanging around like in BotW. Walking around Kaer Morhen at night with cracking wood and the strong wind blowing felt so breathtaking. BotW just can't compete with that for me.
I would very much like to not make a choice! They are different but not to the point that a comparison can't be made.
HOW is the Witcher 3 linear outside of the main quest and locking new areas behind main quest?
You could literally get to an area, go do everything you wanted to and return to the main quest then. Only in very small sections did the game have you follow a long story linear section, and they were most if not all while you were in the middle of a main mission.
I didn't find any particular payoff with Zelda's exploration. Like, what's over that hill? A shrine, ok. A few korok seed puzzles maybe some bokoblins. I'm not saying it was boring but I found myself getting in all manner of interesting scenarios in TW3. The coolest thing I remember from BOTW was when I found The Lord of the Mountain. Exploration was not why I bought a Zelda game, I wanted some freaking dungeons. In that respect BOTW was kind of a letdown.
i haven't played breath of the wild but i can say with certainty that The Witcher 3 is one of the greatest games ever created and is my personal top 3 game of alltime. For reference, my first console ever was the regular nintendo and ive own every major console since then.
Witcher 3: Characters, Writing, Voice acting, World Building, Music, Creature/character/costume designs, comedic elements, a great ending to a long running series. The way the paths and plantlife are layed out is very natural feeling and trees move a lot when its windy which looks cool :)
Zelda: General gameplay is very polished, completely optional plot, completely reworked franchise (these can be positive or negative depending on the person), one of the worst endings and last boss of the series, framerate issues (especially on Wii u), largely sparse looking open world with the same trees scattered about.
Probably W3 although BOTW is going to do more good for videogames while The Witcher is being made into a tv series. BOTW wins if you're one of those gameplay purists who like to say "games shouldnt be movies"
Zelda: General gameplay is very polished, completely optional plot, completely reworked franchise (these can be positive or negative depending on the person), one of the worst endings and last boss of the series, framerate issues (especially on Wii u), largely sparse looking open world with the same trees scattered about.
Probably W3 although BOTW is going to do more good for videogames while The Witcher is being made into a tv series. BOTW wins if you're one of those gameplay purists who like to say "games shouldnt be movies"
Witcher 3 PS4 at launch :
- Mario Kart hitbox
- Shuffkepuck Cafe physics
- Dungeon Master UI with a joystick
- Pinball Deluxe collisions
- Marble Madness inertia and velocity for Geralt and his horse
- Barbarian melee gameplay
- Magic/consumables gameplay that transform the game into a turn-by-turn
I was really angry because of the press coverage that did not inform me of this. I tend to not care about graphic fidelity if it do not serve something else, storytelling, level design, gameplay or anything. That's the problem I have with Assassin's Creed Origins now, it's like having the production design of Apocalypse Now, but the storytelling of a Police Academy 2.
So I enjoyed BotW a lot more, even if I am not entirely convinced, it looks like a prototype where the step of creation had to be artificially interrupted. And at the end, gave me impression to visit an empty World of Wacraft unofficial realm. Combat are so-so, bosses fight embaressly easy and the beastiary ridiculously limited. But sure it's amazingly pretty and a great exemple of Nintendo's talents, produce a lot with little means.
- Mario Kart hitbox
- Shuffkepuck Cafe physics
- Dungeon Master UI with a joystick
- Pinball Deluxe collisions
- Marble Madness inertia and velocity for Geralt and his horse
- Barbarian melee gameplay
- Magic/consumables gameplay that transform the game into a turn-by-turn
I was really angry because of the press coverage that did not inform me of this. I tend to not care about graphic fidelity if it do not serve something else, storytelling, level design, gameplay or anything. That's the problem I have with Assassin's Creed Origins now, it's like having the production design of Apocalypse Now, but the storytelling of a Police Academy 2.
So I enjoyed BotW a lot more, even if I am not entirely convinced, it looks like a prototype where the step of creation had to be artificially interrupted. And at the end, gave me impression to visit an empty World of Wacraft unofficial realm. Combat are so-so, bosses fight embaressly easy and the beastiary ridiculously limited. But sure it's amazingly pretty and a great exemple of Nintendo's talents, produce a lot with little means.
Tough choice, but for me narrative based games are more my jam. Witcher 3 set an impossibly high standard for having so much well produced content in an open world RPG, or any game really. It is the gold standard to set all open world games to.
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I think a lot of the complaints about it being linear are to do with levels, sure the game is massive and open, but you're pretty much screwed if you run into 1 skull-marked enemy, unless you want to spend 20mins fighting it spamming Quen.
Personally, I don't think it's comparable in any way other than they're both fantasy games with action. I preferred Witcher 3 by far (I have no nostalgia towards LoZ, grew up with Sega consoles), but for me it's like comparing Gears of War to Vanquish, similar in 1 aspect, but completely different.
how is Zelda different if you run into one of those higher level lion dudes or tougher bosses with low level armor and/or weapons if that's the case.
But they're not generic enemies, they're bosses and mini-bosses.Compared to running in to a skull-marked Drowner.
Nintendo should look at their 2D efforts. Link's Awakening is probably the best Zelda game of all time. There is a lot exploration, a compelling story, character progression and great dungeons. The problem is breath of the wild lacks every aspect except for exploration.
There is basically no story in this game.
In terms of character progression link can find the master sword, heart containers ans stamina containers. At the end of every other Zelda game you have the feeling of advanced skill and depper gameplay. The old games are constantly evolve in gameplay due to new items/weapons. This is really a missing feature.
The dungeons in breath of the wild are short and there are only 4 of them. The bossfights have no special hook like in other Zelda games.
This game was simply to ambitious. Development time was mostly spend into creating the game world. But other aspect suffered.
There is basically no story in this game.
In terms of character progression link can find the master sword, heart containers ans stamina containers. At the end of every other Zelda game you have the feeling of advanced skill and depper gameplay. The old games are constantly evolve in gameplay due to new items/weapons. This is really a missing feature.
The dungeons in breath of the wild are short and there are only 4 of them. The bossfights have no special hook like in other Zelda games.
This game was simply to ambitious. Development time was mostly spend into creating the game world. But other aspect suffered.
I don't think I ever met skull marker drowner in 560 hours of two playthroughs. Usually enemies like Fiends and Leshens had skulls.
However it is not a problem either way. The game is designed so that some enemies are powerful and you are meant to run, get stronger and then come back and kick their ass. Like in the classic RPGs like Gothic 2.
Personally I agree with Joe
For me, Witcher 3 was a game of the year.
Breath of the wild, however, is a top 5 game of ALL time.
I feel the voting is better than I thought it would be, as you can imagine a lot of people who never Ed played BOTW have probably voted witcher in here.
Breath of the wild, however, is a top 5 game of ALL time.
I feel the voting is better than I thought it would be, as you can imagine a lot of people who never Ed played BOTW have probably voted witcher in here.
If I remember right, South of Condyle, there's 3 bandit camps, the southern most camp is very close to a hidden treasure guarded by drowners, if you go there too early I think the drowners are skull-marked..I might be wrong, if so, then there goes my explanation.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Witcher 3 is linear, it was just me thinking of how people might consider it to be. (I do know for a fact there is a couple of Imperial Knights very early on that are way higher level than the rest of the area, though I think it might just be 1 or 2 elite skull-marked with lvl6-8ish grunts, which in a way would make them as much a mini-boss as the Lynels).
It's possible, maybe I went there later. Still though, I don't mind encountering an enemy like that. I try to defeat them, and if it proves too hard I just come back later.
Witcher is just better all around personally since I like to be immersed in the game especially on the narrative side of things. BotW on the other hand is like a physics playground which bores me. Don't get me wrong, both games are excellent. I just prefer Witcher.
I played Witcher 3 for 3 hours and BOTW for 375 hours (so far).
Guess which I voted for.
I find Witcher 3 to be pretty janky and I didn't like the feel of the controls or combat much at all.
I don't understand the acclaim for Witcher 3 to be honest.
Guess which I voted for.
I find Witcher 3 to be pretty janky and I didn't like the feel of the controls or combat much at all.
I don't understand the acclaim for Witcher 3 to be honest.
I played and loved both, but at hour 120 I was ready for TW3 to end, whereas I was dreading the end of BotW, because I wanted to keep playing forever.
BotW had some kind of magic that made every play session in the game feel like setting off an adventure into the great unknown.
BotW had some kind of magic that made every play session in the game feel like setting off an adventure into the great unknown.
Lol, not at all! Can easily kill red skull enemies with the right build.
https://youtu.be/jmT184ADfk8?t=4m52s
I'd like to salvage my monster post from a certain other forum so that I can illustrate here why I feel BOTW falls short in so many aspects where it could have far exceeded many other games like it, including The Witcher 3 which is my favorite game of the gen thus far...
Nice, I really need to play this again, picked it up on PC after upgrading my GPU, first attempt at playing again I went to my old build (Igni alt/bombs) which was apparently nerfed ages ago.
The combat in Zelda is pretty damn awful as well. Especially since the movement etc almost requires a 150$ controller to even be remotely playable.
The story and characters in Zelda are so bland and unimaginative that it borders on non existent.
As much as I like the setting, the characters, writing, the level of side quests etc. I still find BOTW to be the better video game, but it just boils down to one's preferences. They are vastly different kind of games, both being open world games is the only common ground.
Breath of the Wild, i prefer it's world, exploration and smooth gameplay.
While Witcher 3 sure is fantastic i ultimately play games for gameplay and fun, and Breath of the Wild was more fun to me to play.
I just love mechanics like the climb anything and the paraglider and those runes, you can do the most crazy things. While the dungeons were meh the shrines made up for those, those should be a series mainstay now with improved main dugeons next. Hopefully the story dlc's dungeon is more oldskool or like hyrule castle.
While Witcher 3 sure is fantastic i ultimately play games for gameplay and fun, and Breath of the Wild was more fun to me to play.
I just love mechanics like the climb anything and the paraglider and those runes, you can do the most crazy things. While the dungeons were meh the shrines made up for those, those should be a series mainstay now with improved main dugeons next. Hopefully the story dlc's dungeon is more oldskool or like hyrule castle.
I really wanted to like the Witcher 3... but I hated it. Felt like I was fighting the controls at every step. Even if I were interested in video game stories, I don't think W3 had enough to force myself through the game.
I loved BotW. I even bought a second copy when I bought a Switch, to play it on the go (and play in Hard mode).
I loved BotW. I even bought a second copy when I bought a Switch, to play it on the go (and play in Hard mode).
Zelda has the best gameplay by far but no matter how good the gameplay is, I will get bored if that's all the game has to offer. Witcher 3 on the other end has frustrating gameplay and some daft design decisions but the world and the story are so good that I've spent over 200 hours in that game and I've now started a new game + to go back and experience all the side quests I've missed and make the decisions I didn't make the first time around.
The Witcher 3 for me in the end will be the one I remember the most. Fantastic characters with a fantastic story tends to dig itself deeper into my noggin. The tale of Von Everich and his deal with the devil will be fondly remembered for me. The Bloody Baron and his harrowing story of loss, family abuse and more is a haunting one. This shit sticks with me hard. Ciri, Jennefer, Zoltan, Dandelion, these are all lovely characters that you wanna spend time and do spend time with, getting to know them.
Zelda, while a pretty good game, just wasn't as memorable. The story was boring. The characters were boring. The only group of characters that came close to being fleshed out were the Gerudos but every time you approach a new tribe it goes like this:
"Meet tribe, meet person, do person's quest, now you're best friend ever with person, do the tribe associated dungeon, NEVER TALK WITH THESE PEOPLE AGAIN K-BYE!"
It seriously bothers me that I can't understand why people liked these characters when they were barely characters. Like, what's Sidon? He miss his sister and does a pose. That's it. He's the "sister pose guy". That is a very poor character and this just repeats itself with many of the "characters" you meet throughout the game. The godawful voice acting doesn't help anyone here either. Also fuck Calamity Ganon, the worst and most boring Ganon ever.
So while the gameplay of The Witcher 3 may not have been as open ended or polished as Zelda (and there were quite a few problems there as well for me), I will have my adventures of The Witcher 3 memorized due to how memorable CD Projekt's writing team made them.
Zelda, while a pretty good game, just wasn't as memorable. The story was boring. The characters were boring. The only group of characters that came close to being fleshed out were the Gerudos but every time you approach a new tribe it goes like this:
"Meet tribe, meet person, do person's quest, now you're best friend ever with person, do the tribe associated dungeon, NEVER TALK WITH THESE PEOPLE AGAIN K-BYE!"
It seriously bothers me that I can't understand why people liked these characters when they were barely characters. Like, what's Sidon? He miss his sister and does a pose. That's it. He's the "sister pose guy". That is a very poor character and this just repeats itself with many of the "characters" you meet throughout the game. The godawful voice acting doesn't help anyone here either. Also fuck Calamity Ganon, the worst and most boring Ganon ever.
So while the gameplay of The Witcher 3 may not have been as open ended or polished as Zelda (and there were quite a few problems there as well for me), I will have my adventures of The Witcher 3 memorized due to how memorable CD Projekt's writing team made them.
By this logic it might as well be the people who never played the Witcher voting for Zelda.
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Change control setup in the menu to alternative and if you are on PC, get Immersive Cam and Motion mod. Controls are perfect with that:
https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/689/?
what bothered me about witcher 3 is that it somehow managed to have more handholding than any nintendo game i remember ever having played, and that is just baffling. it's not just that pretty much every quest boils down to following that smoke trail, but every "puzzle" or whatever was absolute nothing (walk to a spot and press a button and geralt does everything automatically), or geralt even flat out starts musing what you're supposed to be doing before you've even had time to do anything ("maybe i can use this crossbow to shoot the panels", thanks a bunch you fuck).
still a very good game, and its writing did make the side quests superior to those of breath of the wild, but overall zelda was a more pleasing experience.
still a very good game, and its writing did make the side quests superior to those of breath of the wild, but overall zelda was a more pleasing experience.
Thanks for the tips... but I'm on PS4, and sold my copy a long time ago. I don't have much time to play games at the moment, so I won't be taking the chance on it again.
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