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Rogue74

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Nov 13, 2017
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I just finished the books earlier this year. I think this looks pretty damn good. Really looking forward to it.
I don't get all the complaints about it looking cheap. I think it looks like it will have good production values and be well acted.
 

viral

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think it looks cheap, GoT just spoiled us with its incredibly high budget.
 

jokingbird

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Oct 25, 2017
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Unless they set up a gap in the timeline for flashing back to in the second season, A Shard of Ice should stay on the cutting room floor. Adapting that story after Ciri enters their lives would be disastrous, it would especially ruin Geralt as a character. The triangle dynamic is almost definitely staying, but I can't imagine it being the same story.

I think it perfectly describes the gap when Geralt and Yen are not together. I am not sure how it ruins Geralt as a character. It is setting up how she leaves him after he left her in the past. It sets up how their relationship is a give and take based upon their uncertainty following the last wish.
 

misho8723

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Jan 7, 2018
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Ehh that trailer did nothing for me..
Also the music so far sounds pretty bad.

Music released so far from the show - the theme for Geralt and Jaskier's ballad - and the music in the newest trailer are one of the best parts of the show so far.. Slavic folk music with some modern touches.. if you don't like it, well, shame but it really fits the show and the world from the Witcher books
 

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dunno what exactly you are watching, or what you are actually comparing it to, but it does look cheap. There are more than a few shows out now on TV that do both large and small scale fights pretty well, and might even do one or the other at a much higher standard than most. Nothing in any of these trailers show that this series can go beyond average at best. It's like a huge portion of the budget was spent on the monster CGI and the actors.

It's a good thing the focus of the Witcher novels is definitely not large scale battles. They rightfully should spend more on actors and monster CGI.

Most reviews have said the small scale swordplay is excellent though.
 

Tovarisc

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think it looks cheap, GoT just spoiled us with its incredibly high budget.

It's insanity to think that many studios producing TV would put 10+ Million USD per episode into show. HBO is very much abnormality enabled by insane success of GoT over the years.

Not shocked if GoT's whole 1st season was done with same or lower budget than single episode in last season cost HBO.

Witcher looks pretty good imo for what must be pretty high budget for NetFlix standards.
 

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think it looks cheap, GoT just spoiled us with its incredibly high budget.
Yeah. Compare this to season 1 or 2 and I think it's favorable. There's a lot more CG and effects needed in Witcher than GoT Season 1 through maybe 4 so obviously they need to spread it out.

Hell look what happened when GoT itself got spread too thin. Check out the Dorne fight scene for reference.
 

Flipyap

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think it perfectly describes the gap when Geralt and Yen are not together. I am not sure how it ruins Geralt as a character. It is setting up how she leaves him after he left her in the past. It sets up how their relationship is a give and take based upon their uncertainty following the last wish.
It's because Geralt has no business even contemplating a dick-measuring duel once Ciri enters his life. It would be embarrassing.
The short story sees all those 50-100 year olds acting like horny teenagers, and that's a lot of fun, but it can only work before Ciri changes everything.
 

Sanctuary

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's a good thing the focus of the Witcher novels is definitely not large scale battles. They rightfully should spend more on actors and monster CGI.

What does the primary focus of the books have to do with what may or may not actually look good? When I mentioned the monster CGI and actors, I meant that the majority of the budget went to them at the expense of the battles.

And it's weird to compare the budget to Game of Thrones as though this has a significantly smaller budget. It doesn't compared to the earlier seasons. Plus, if the rumors are true, each episode of this actually cost slightly more. Even a show like The Last Kingdom looks like it has better fights.
 

StudioTan

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Oct 27, 2017
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I just finished the books earlier this year. I think this looks pretty damn good. Really looking forward to it.
I don't get all the complaints about it looking cheap. I think it looks like it will have good production values and be well acted.

They're just silly hot takes. Like the people in the Mandalorian thread that said it looked like a fan film after episode 1 came out.
 

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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What does the primary focus of the books have to do with what may or may not actually look good? When I mentioned the monster CGI and actors, I meant that the majority of the budget went to them at the expense of the battles.
Yes? That's the right choice to make for Witcher. There's likely just one larger scale battle anyway. Meanwhile they need CG every episode, and monsters will make or break this show.

As I said though, most reviews stated the smaller scale swordplay was excellent.
 

Sanctuary

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yes? That's the right choice to make for Witcher. There's likely just one larger scale battle anyway. Meanwhile they need CG every episode, and monsters will make or break this show.

As I said though, most reviews stated the smaller scale swordplay was excellent.

Am I not being clear enough with what I am talking about? I don't care if they have large scale battles or not. I'm not asking for more, only that if they are going to do them, don't make them look so fucking bad. Even Game of Thrones knew how to budget for the larger fights; they mainly did not even have them and simply showed the aftermath, or had a single (well done) huge fight per season until they tried going full scale blockbuster movie mode with season 7&8, but then that's all those seasons had to offer for the most part.

And maybe the smaller fights are done better, but the trailers didn't convey that at all.
 

InfiniDragon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Triss is a fucking skank. i'll be happy if she doesn't play a big part.

So Yen, a few questions since we know it's you behind that account.

How long did it take to learn to use computers after Ciri warped you to our universe? Do you go by "Jen" here in our world to keep up with modern naming convention? Did the unicorn make the journey?
 

StudioTan

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Even a show like The Last Kingdom looks like it has better fights.

I mean

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Even Game of Thrones knew how to budget for the larger fights

GoT has no large fights early in the series. It was a running joke that they cut away whenever a battle was about to happen and only showed the aftermath.
 

Artdayne

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Nov 7, 2017
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What does the primary focus of the books have to do with what may or may not actually look good? When I mentioned the monster CGI and actors, I meant that the majority of the budget went to them at the expense of the battles.

And it's weird to compare the budget to Game of Thrones as though this has a significantly smaller budget. It doesn't compared to the earlier seasons. Plus, if the rumors are true, each episode of this actually cost slightly more. Even a show like The Last Kingdom looks like it has better fights.

You've seen like 10 seconds of two different fights, it's nothing.
 

jokingbird

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's because Geralt has no business even contemplating a dick-measuring duel once Ciri enters his life. It would be embarrassing.
The short story sees all those 50-100 year olds acting like horny teenagers, and that's a lot of fun, but it can only work before Ciri changes everything.

That is why it would be a flashback. None of the short stories could work after the main saga begins.
 

Flipyap

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That is why it would be a flashback. None of the short stories could work after the main saga begins.
Oh geez, I somehow managed to miss the "flashback" part of your original post. Sorry about that. Must have gotten my wires crossed because I keep seeing people suggesting that it should be done as part of the main season 2 plot.
 

cj_iwakura

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Oct 25, 2017
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Music released so far from the show - the theme for Geralt and Jaskier's ballad - and the music in the newest trailer are one of the best parts of the show so far.. Slavic folk music with some modern touches.. if you don't like it, well, shame but it really fits the show and the world from the Witcher books
They should have thrown money at the game's composer to get him to do it, why replace perfection?
 

misho8723

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Jan 7, 2018
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They should have thrown money at the game's composer to get him to do it, why replace perfection?

I rather hear something new, something unique to the show than if they would just copied the music from the game.. the Polish original TV series wasn't really good, but music was fantastic - if anything, the Witcher games took many influences when it comes to the music from the Polish show.. but still made their own take on it and that's why is it good that the Netflix show is going to have her own original music too
 

leng jai

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Nov 2, 2017
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Watched most of the interviews on YT and it's gotten me more interested than ant of the actual trailers.

Cavill seems like a genuine PC gamer and extremely into the lore and Geralt as a character. Actress that plays Ciri is looking promising too. Yennefer was the only one that looked a bit suspect in interviews, seemed like Anya struggled a bit with the questions about her character.
 

AbsoluteZero0K

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Dec 6, 2019
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I really hope this is good, I need a good fantasy show after my Game of Thrones disappointment.

If the TV show is it is now is following the short stories, these will be more action-oriented.

You don't get your GoT-type intrigue between the Northern Kingdoms until the first novel, Blood of Elves.

I'm sure hey will tease with some of that here though.
 

Lunar Wolf

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Nov 6, 2017
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I feel like people are being blinded by their love for the source material. Everything I've seen in motion looks badddd so far. All of the fight scenes are floaty, with the weapons not even touching people yet they fall over and die. The choreography looks terrible and like a B-movie.

I love the games and novels a lot, but this just doesnt look promising to me, which is a shame because Henry deserves this to be a success.

The combat isn't really important for me. I care more about a good story and good characters. Combat whether good or bad doesn't make a story.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
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Holy fuck, this is coming out on the 20th?

Thought this was was like a mid 2020 thing.

Still pretty cautious about it but eager to give it a shot. Alright, lets do this shit.
 

AbsoluteZero0K

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Dec 6, 2019
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Isn't that just like, the framing story though?

It's a framing story yes, but a story nevertheless that builds upon the lore just like the other short stories.
It establishes, besides respite for Geralt and how he handles xenophobia, Nenneke's knowledge of the arts both natural and arcane, making for an ideal hiding place for Ciri when the time is right. It is from here where Yenna will retrieve Ciri for her formal training as a sorceress.

It's important...like most things in the Witcher series.
 

StudioTan

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Oct 27, 2017
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Was this posted? It looks like it's a week old but there's a lot of good info in here including Andrzej Sapkowski's reaction to being on set during filming.

 

phaze

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Oct 26, 2017
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Review from Financial Times - 2/5

Uh oh.

I do am worried on how mixing the short stories (are they like, all flashbacks?) with the expanded Ciri storyline (present ?) works out. + I guess there's still Yen's backstory to cover which I guess could end up being confusing to casual viewer unfamiliar with the series.