What do you guys expect? "oh we just remembered that xbox exists so here is the new stretch goal"? They might port the game to xbox later(I hope they do), but as far as this KS goes it doesn't exist.
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The Wonderful 101: Remastered goes up on Kickstarter
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What do you guys expect? "oh we just remembered that xbox exists so here is the new stretch goal"? They might port the game to xbox later(I hope they do), but as far as this KS goes it doesn't exist.
I guess that's possible. Would be shame to miss out on a port that clearly has a following and clearly needs more exposure.
Yeah, but your suggestions for putting the steam back in their sails was "why didn't they do those things but at a fraction of the cost? Oh and also make them way more exciting".
Like, that's obviously not feasible in any sense, so...
Ehm... didn't they explain this pretti much clearly in the FAQS?
It's right in the FAQ though: They don't think it's viable for them to manage more than three platforms for their first self published title. They are inexperienced in the field and want to reduce the amount of stuff that could go wrong.
If you have to limit yourself to three platforms it's easy to see why Xbox was the one to be left out, at least for a game like this.
A sequel to a Luka game that isn't even made yet is lame but it's better for them to make attainable stretch goals than to bite off more than they can chew just to make the KS more exciting.
They're also working on several other projects from publishers and whatever the other Platinum 4 are.
They're also working on several other projects from publishers and whatever the other Platinum 4 are.
It is possible that there are more kickstarter projects on the way and they don't want to burn themselves with too much work.
It doesn't make any sense for them to add "exciting" additions just to get more funds, when the additions would cost them too much. They have to balance this thing.
It's not the point of the kickstarter to lose money in the end, you know
Thoughts:
- The kickstarter was always roughly going to have the same inverse bellcurve, regardless of the stretch goals. Yeah, they could goose it a bit more by having different/more goals in between , but you also have to deliver on them, and they're probably pretty topped out on what they can actually deliver on in terms of time and money given that Platinum has like 5 other projects in the works.
- xbox is most likely just a later port, especially given that the kickstarter has done well.
To be honest I think it's probably more like Luka's game being fleshed out closer to a full sized game.
- The kickstarter was always roughly going to have the same inverse bellcurve, regardless of the stretch goals. Yeah, they could goose it a bit more by having different/more goals in between , but you also have to deliver on them, and they're probably pretty topped out on what they can actually deliver on in terms of time and money given that Platinum has like 5 other projects in the works.
- xbox is most likely just a later port, especially given that the kickstarter has done well.
To be honest I think it's probably more like Luka's game being fleshed out closer to a full sized game.
For some reason I was hoping for some kind of 8bit or 16bit pixel art aesthetic for these bonus games, like that Bayonetta joke game they did once.That would be more interesting to me. I wonder what's the tentative release dates for those things anyway.
This might be the closest Kamiya gets to directing a sequel to one of his own games, though I don't know whether it counts as a sequel to TW101 or Viewtiful Joe :P
I was expecting an Xbox One version as the $2 mil stretch goal, but at this point I think it's probably off the table, at least for this Kickstarter campaign. I'm guessing that the Switch, PC and PS4 ports were basically 100% complete before the Kickstarter campaign ever went live and the time between the Kickstarter ending and the April release will just be spent manufacturing physical copies and getting them sent out. An Xbox One version would probably need to be built from the ground up and would never be able to release alongside the other versions.
edit: Looking at the stretch goals picture it looks like they aren't even halfway through their planned goals. I'm not sure why they're hiding them away to be honest, cuz "Luka's Second Mission" isn't much incentive.
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I need some reason to be even vaguely interested in literally anything involving more Luka
Man we're in a rut. The community goal is fighting an uphill battle and the newest revealed stretch goal inspires no excitement.
"One extra level" would be more exciting than a sequel to a spinoff mini mode that doesn't even exist yet, for example. Or an Xbox version. Or unlocked framerate for the PC version. Or a new difficulty setting. Or new skins for the characters. Or localization for additional languages. Or a few new characters. Dunno, literally anything else lol. Also the goals are way too far from one another IMO.
It would be cool if the goals for 1, 2 and 3 million were one DLC level per goal, to be released post-launch of course, and free for backers. I don't think one (short!) level PER MILLION is too crazy.
It would be cool if the goals for 1, 2 and 3 million were one DLC level per goal, to be released post-launch of course, and free for backers. I don't think one (short!) level PER MILLION is too crazy.
I think showing too many goals can also be demotivating, if do agree that if they have something big left in there they should probably show it at this point, as it's going to trickle on until the last 3 days or so otherwise.
First kickstarter I've ever backed. Game was fantastic on the Wii U. Hopefully it finally gets the audience it deserves
I'm getting the game on PC after all this time, so I'm good, and any additional content is just bonus, not something that matters all that much
It will be interesting to see what the Luka level is like.
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I'm guessing he'll really be transformed into Wonder Goggles but they won't show it so not to spoil it for people that haven't played through the whole game yet.
You're being way over-dramatic. The KS hasn't had the steam taken out of its sails at all. It is just following the same trajectory of dropping off after the first 36 - 48 hours that ALL KS projects do. That is why it soared past the Time Attack goal in the first day. Yeah it's taken a few more days to crawl to 1.5 million, but this kickstarter is already a massive success. And it still has over 3 weeks left. At the current pace it is going to make it past 2 million no problem.
It could be you personally don't like the current stretch goals, and that's fine, but a Viewtiful Joe-esque game IS something exciting to a lot of Platinum fans. And the original Wonderful 101 is already extremely long and packed full of content anyway. All that said, they still did say they were considering adding to the campaign too, but that realistically takes a lot more money, and I have no problem with Platinum being realistic about their goals.
You're severely underestimating the cost of these levels imo. They clearly have other goals planned still given the size of the stretch goal image. It's just a matter of getting to them.
Other big Kickstarters have revealed all additional planned goals a few days before the campaign ends, which is when the big final push happens anyways. Right now they are very much following the popular model of only reveal the next couple. They also probably don't completely have the goals finalized at this point, they're just floating around as possible ideas.
On update #3 they also said the following:
"Speaking of rewards, we've heard a few backers asking about add-ons for the campaign. Including add-ons in the campaign is incredibly challenging both from a pricing and logistical perspective, but as always, we're always listening, so if you have feedback for us, please let us know."
I'm glad we got W101 ported, everything else is only extra cream on the cake. The KS reaching 1.5M is already something unexpected.
He's being sarcastic, it's told at the end of the quote.
What I hope would come from this but it won't is that Nintendo sees the power of Kickstarter and does one for f-zero gx remaster and waver race. Just a dream though. 😟
Nintendo doesn't need a kickstarter. If they want to make those games, they'll just do it. Nothing to gain from giving Kickstarter a portion of their funds.
That Luka thing looks pretty wack, but it's a side dish. Putting more Luka at higher stretch goals... idk about that.
Nintendo doesn't need a fucking kickstarter in order to publish a remaster of anything lol
yeah they're not really gonna mess with the actual game and introduce new bosses or new areas, which would've been cool. That's why we're getting a brand new 2d chapter that has nothing to do with the code for the game.
Yeah, I agree, just saying the model of showing the next couple of stretch goals only has more or less run it's course, as it's going to take until the last couple of days to reach the current known goals.
I don't think that's true at all is the thing. We've settled into a steady pace now and have over 3 weeks still. I definitely see us getting to the 2 million goal before the last few days. I definitely think the 1.75 mil goal is going to be hit in another week max.
Of course they don't but obviously they don't care enough about the franchises. It would just be cool to put it in the hands of the fans of the series.
Oh lord I'm an idiot. For awhile now I've been thinking we've been flying through these stretch goals, with goals being announced after we already hit the mark. Turns out Kickstarter changes the money raised to Canadian dollars, so while I see the project being just over $2 million, it's only at $1.5 million US.
i would straight up rather like wonder red costumes or some shit than a 2D minigame thatll likely add very little
lmfaooo "put it in the hands of the fans of the series" that is a delusional take. Especially with how hardcore Nintendo is about their IP
Well I said in my initial post it was a dream that wouldn't come true.🤷🏾♂️
Not sure why you think that. It's just around 36k a day, which is lower than the KS has been getting on each day.
the game was never a looker up close to begin with. they aren't gonna shell out much more cash for a spin-off to a game like this
