The Worst Of The Office

Clix

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Michael is a racist, sexist, bigot. That so many people empathize with him says a lot about people.
Wow. Give yourself a nice good hard part on the back for that one. Maybe because real life is not black and white and not filled with as much as self righteousness as some people here like to throw around. The simple fact that the show was able to develop Micheal into a likeable character and provide nuance to him despite his flaws says a good deal about the writing. But hey, keep making blanket statements like that about other people because they liked Michael instead of trying to understand that reality does not work that.

FYI, Michael is tone deaf, ignorant, and many things... but he is not a racist. He does not feel is superior to anyone due to their race, nor that they are lesser. He is ignorant and tone deaf, which is a big difference. Same with the homophobia. He was ignorant and he even admitted as such, and then he uses it to learn and grow.
 

Clix

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You used a word incorrectly, I called you on it and now I have to explain what’s clear as day.
Jebus, it's a sitcom. Everything is suppose to be exaggerated and played up higher for laughs. From Dwight's conspiracies and behavior to Jim's absurd pranks. The amusing thing is that Jim and Dwight consider themselves friends at the end of the day. Dwight thinks Jim is immature and Jim thinks Dwight is annoying... yet as the show displays, they both still like each other and have gone to bat for each other.
 

Wood Man

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Oct 30, 2017
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So NBC's The Office became pretty much a shitshow when Michael Scott left, but what was the worst part of the series for you?

For me, it was this guy:



Brian. The Cameraman. After trying desperately to continue the "WILL THEY WON'T THEY?" with Pam and Jim, even after they've been married and had a kid, the Office tries to throw in the curb ball of Brian, the cameraman who has totally fallen in love with Pam after recording her for nearly a decade. As dumb as this was, they just completely drop the storyline anyway as it hurdled toward its finale.
I didn't remember he was the camera guy. To me he will always be this guy:



And just last night I remembered remember this guy was Dwight's brother



And of course we have stickboy:



Any other Silicon Valley people in The Office?
 

Bobo Dakes

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Jebus, it's a sitcom. Everything is suppose to be exaggerated and played up higher for laughs. From Dwight's conspiracies and behavior to Jim's absurd pranks. The amusing thing is that Jim and Dwight consider themselves friends at the end of the day. Dwight thinks Jim is immature and Jim thinks Dwight is annoying... yet as the show displays, they both still like each other and have gone to bat for each other.
Quoting the wrong person.
 

Novoitus

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just read through the whole thread and everyone’s calling Brian a camera man. I’m going to freak out
 

ReAxion

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Oct 26, 2017
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The breaking point for me was the episode (I think it was on after a Super Bowl) where Dwight sets the office on fire and seals all of the exits to teach them all a lesson in safety. I mean... shit. Unforgivable.
That was the inherent problem, it being after the Super Bowl. It wasn't made for people who had been watching all along, it was supposed to be a hook for anyone who left the TV on after the Super Bowl.
 

GuitarGuruu

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Oct 26, 2017
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So NBC's The Office became pretty much a shitshow when Michael Scott left, but what was the worst part of the series for you?

For me, it was this guy:



Brian. The Cameraman. After trying desperately to continue the "WILL THEY WON'T THEY?" with Pam and Jim, even after they've been married and had a kid, the Office tries to throw in the curb ball of Brian, the cameraman who has totally fallen in love with Pam after recording her for nearly a decade. As dumb as this was, they just completely drop the storyline anyway as it hurdled toward its finale.
Agreed, this was pretty forced and bad. But I think Will Ferrell was pretty bad as well.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Like, I don't remember this:
After the entire warehouse staff wins the lottery and quits their job, Darryl becomes depressed and demands to be fired. Meanwhile, the office staff is forced to load the truck for their orders themselves.
Lotto from Season 8?
 

nekkid

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Oct 27, 2017
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So NBC's The Office became pretty much a shitshow when Michael Scott left, but what was the worst part of the series for you?

For me, it was this guy:



Brian. The Cameraman. After trying desperately to continue the "WILL THEY WON'T THEY?" with Pam and Jim, even after they've been married and had a kid, the Office tries to throw in the curb ball of Brian, the cameraman who has totally fallen in love with Pam after recording her for nearly a decade. As dumb as this was, they just completely drop the storyline anyway as it hurdled toward its finale.
Holy shit, I just realised Brian is Russ Hanneman.
 

steveovig

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Oct 25, 2017
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Some of you guys are giant hipsters with your criticism. The show was great until the last couple seasons with Michael, and then it was good. The last two seasons had some funny stuff but it was where everything went to hell for me. I've been rewatching stuff lately, and I'm convinced more than ever that they should've stopped when Steve Carell left. The show centered around him, no matter how good some of the other characters were.

Yea, Jim is a giant bully but Dwight was a douche sometimes too. I still like both characters though. And, I prefer The Office to Parks and Rec.! Take that!
 

Eros

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'll never get why people think Jim is worse than Dwight. All the things Dwight did to everyone in the office (aside from Michael and Angela) on a regular basis, compared to pranks Jim did to only Dwight and a couple times to Andy and some goofy faces.

I'd rather have to drag my desk across the room than you fuck my fiance. Angela is to blame for that as well, but Dwight was proud of it.

edit: I guess the Pam thing equalizes the Angela one. Jim and Pam ruined Roy and Pam, Dwight and Angela ruined Andy and Angela.

I still think Dwight's behavior to everyone in the office makes him far worse though.
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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I loved the show from start to finish and, honestly, it felt like a relief when Michael Scott left. I liked him up to season 5 or something, but at some point he started to annoy me and almost every scene with him became a test of endurance. I don't know if it was his almost constant yelling or the character trait of trying to be the center of attention and making everything about him. I didn't hate the character, but at some point it became too much.

DeAngelo, California and Nellie were characters I didn't care for, but at least they didn't show up too often. Andy, who'd been a hit-and-miss since his introduction, became more miss than hit as the seasons went on. Thankfully the show didn't focus too much on him, giving other characters more space and time to shine. Kevin, Erin, Darryl and Dwight will always be my favorites.
 

peteykirch

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Oct 25, 2017
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As soon as Andy was introduced my interest in the Office greatly waned. I get that we are supposed to find him annoying and unlikeable, but I guess the character he is portraying just hits too much at home for me to enjoy. Then throw into the mix the addition of characters like Nellie, DeAngelo, Robert California it was just a hot mess.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Also, I never got the love for Daryl's song for the commercial.

Top 3 songs from the Office:
1: That One Night
2: Goodbye Toby
3: Threat Level Midnight

Honorable mention to Let's Get Ethical, Ryan Started the Fire, and Lazy Scranton.

Not included is Beers in Heaven because of how personal it is.
 

NateDog

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Jan 8, 2018
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I stopped at season 5, at least with the seasons that I bought. I watched season 6 but don't remember liking it much and same with what I saw of 7. I've actually been rewatching the series with my girlfriend (first time she's seen it) so we decided to buy 6 and 7 to at least finish off Michael's part. I have always thought seasons 2 and 3 were great and the quality dipped at 4 but that both 4 and 5 have some really good episodes.
 

Wispmetas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Season 8 was just bad, really didn't like it, but if I had to point a moment where I really got mad at this show for how annoying it was being, it would be:

When she became the boss, dear lord it was so annoying how it just happened and it kept on going like she was the legit boss... Nearly stoped watching there.

I also got extremely disapointed that:
When michael comes back in the last episode, he literally says one or two lines. Felt wrong.
 

darz1

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Dec 18, 2017
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Andy was a great character up until they started trying to write him to be Michael Scott. And then they completely tanked his character when he was filming Hangover. His character just became so inconsistent, they should have just wrote him off the show.

But the camera man/boom mic guy being in love with Pam was truly awful
 
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Davey Cakes

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Oct 27, 2017
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I liked Andy during his introduction in Season 3. We hadn't seen a character quite like that before, so he was a nice addition.

Everything involving him from season 7-9 in particular was just awful. I tried to give it a chance but the "click" just never happened. I have no problem with Ed Helms in general but I always feel like using his character sparingly is best. Trying to make him the main character is a recipe for disaster, and The Office proved it.

I don't want to sound like the typical critic but Seasons 2 and 3 of The Office were the peak. They were firing on all cylinders. When the writers ran out of ideas for the main cast, they brought in new people and created new situations that were comical. It worked for a short period. And, as much as I'll defend Seasons 4 and 5 as being adequate, I'll admit that the spark wasn't quite there. It was good enough but not to the level that really drew me in and made me a fan. I am happy that the writers were ambitious with the Michael Scott Paper Company arc, even though it ended up in failure. After that, everything just seemed forced.

Forever, Seasons 2 and 3 will be the best, and Seasons 4 and 5 will be the acceptable rest. Season 1 is the testing phase. The later seasons fit into the mold of "watch it because you want to see the entire thing through." Dexter syndrome, basically. You'll deal with the shit because you've already made it that far.

I could say the same about Parks and Rec but that series actually didn't shit the bed. The first season is kind of difficult, in the sense that the viewer enjoys the premise but hates the characters. From then on, Season 2 and 3 follow a similar approach as the Office, offering some of the best comedic content that you'll get out of the series, making most of the characters endearing. Then, Seasons 4-7 are purely enjoyable based on what you got out of the upswing in Seasons 2 and 3. Overall, P&R is the winner because it doesn't completely shit the bed, but the reactions to how it changes the plot may vary across the board. Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of Seaons 4-5 but I was right there with everything after. No idea why.

The Office just had too many ideas to try to salvage itself in later seasons, especially after losing Steve Carell. They tried, valiantly, but failed. I won't say I was offended by the episodes leading up to and including the finale, but said episodes certainly left me feeling a bit empty. It's an odd experience, losing touch with a series that once resonated so well with you. But, that's how it goes with entertainment, right?
 
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Syder

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Oct 25, 2017
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Whenever I think about how the later seasons of The Office US were bad I remember that Robert California exists and realise it wasn't that bad.


People that don't like Scots Tots baffle me, like why even bother watching?
 

ProfessorLobo

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Oct 31, 2017
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I think when I really gave up on the office was when Nellie was trying to figure out how to eat tacos.

Really wish I could find the clip.
 

Davey Cakes

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Oct 27, 2017
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Burn me at the stake but I think Robert California would've been a fine replacement for Micheal Scott as the regional manager. Making him the CEO and making Andy the RM was the most boneheaded idea.
 

VanWinkle

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Oct 25, 2017
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Season 6 was pretty bad, season 7 was maybe a little better but not much, season 8 was terrible, and season 9 is one of the worst seasons ever.

So all of season 9 is the worst of The Office. Specifically, boom mic guy was just the worst of the worst.
 

Cruxist

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Oct 27, 2017
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Season 9 is terrible. Andy the manager is terrible, but it does give us the Dunder Mifflin trip to Gettysburg and Gabe as Lincoln. That little sequence makes me laugh so hard every single time. I don’t know what it is, I just lose it.
 

Kitad

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Feb 15, 2018
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Things that were stupid in season 8 and 9:
Andy's arc
Pete and Erin
Angela's baby secretly being Dwights baby, despite the DNA test proving otherwise (I mean what in the actual fuck)


Things that were okay in seasons 8 and 9:
Robert California
The ending episode
 

UltimateHigh

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Oct 25, 2017
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I thought it started going downhill even before Michael left, and it just kept getting worse.

Andy post-anger management sucked.