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Lindsay

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Nov 4, 2017
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Ya know since they bothered localizing 6's subtitle (and will be having one for 7 although its fudged) it feels like a missed opportunity to have not done the same for 4 & 5's with this collection.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Man the hunting mini games are still so good. The atmosphere and the slow pacing of the missions just makes want more.

Hopefully Yakuza 8 brings the goods. I would love another go at hunting cause it is really fun.
 

Aswitch

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Nov 27, 2017
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Have you guys seen the Majima Easter egg in the physical collection ?


Fuck i'm totally checking this out when i get home. Literally opened the game yesterday and didn't even catch it this.

Platinuming Yakuza seems crazy.

Like...one trophy is 100 completion. I couldn't do that. I thought the trophies were more manageable than the in-game completion lol.
I never did a platinum for yakuza (or for most games really)

I truly 100% the game when you finish every sidequests and story mini-games and then fight amon

i never do more than that
FWIW if you wanted to plat a yakuza game. Yakuza 6 is by far the easiest. About 60hrs total and you don't have to 100% the game I believe. That or it's super easy to.


After messing around with Yakuza 3 I instantly noticed something. Is the heat action sound missing from Yakuza 3? or did it not come until 4? After playing so much the past years that was instantly distracting for me. This was the tutorial section so i'm not sure if it was just that particular moment or just me in general.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fuck i'm totally checking this out when i get home. Literally opened the game yesterday and didn't even catch it this.



FWIW if you wanted to plat a yakuza game. Yakuza 6 is by far the easiest. About 60hrs total and you don't have to 100% the game I believe. That or it's super easy to.


After messing around with Yakuza 3 I instantly noticed something. Is the heat action sound missing from Yakuza 3? or did it not come until 4? After playing so much the past years that was instantly distracting for me. This was the tutorial section so i'm not sure if it was just that particular moment or just me in general.
Sound comes in 5. Its not in 4 either, and it is jarring going back to it after years playing the later games. 7 is also an easy plat, but I'm aiming for the 100% in game completion - which is still easier than past games, but is way tougher than going for the plat as the completion list in that game is easier compared to say... 3's or 4's. 5's 100% trophy is easy, just time consuming, I loved my time 100%ing it (twice!)
 

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It makes me genuinely happy seeing people enjoy these games. I picked up the remastered collection a couple of days ago, but due to getting the platinum trophies for the PS3 versions of 3, 4 and 5 last year, I probably won't be playing these remasters for at least a few months.

I know a lot of people were holding off playing 6 until 3, 4 and 5 got remastered so I can't wait for the LTTP threads for that game. 6 has become my favourite Yakuza game and the story is definitely more poignant if you've played 5.

6 is the best, yeah. Tied with Zero probably.

I love how 6 kind of trimmed the fat, the pacing is superb. Stages like the hotel raid rank among the best in the saga. Story wise its very good and I loved the pub social side mission. Some insane side missions in this game.

I should buy this collection. I beat 3 on PS3, quit 4 halfway through for some reason and never played 5.
 

Aswitch

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Nov 27, 2017
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Sound comes in 5. Its not in 4 either, and it is jarring going back to it after years playing the later games. 7 is also an easy plat, but I'm aiming for the 100% in game completion - which is still easier than past games, but is way tougher than going for the plat as the completion list in that game is easier compared to say... 3's or 4's. 5's 100% trophy is easy, just time consuming, I loved my time 100%ing it (twice!)
Wow! Could've swore it was in 4 at least. Obviously not then. Man that's crazy. That's good to hear for 5. I didn't really think of the trophies when playing these on PS3 and that I played the japanese version of 5 since It felt pretty bleak that Yakuza was coming back to the west in 2012 . ohhh both PS3 and PS4!? Dedication.
 

Edify

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Oct 28, 2017
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6 is the best, yeah. Tied with Zero probably.

I love how 6 kind of trimmed the fat, the pacing is superb. Stages like the hotel raid rank among the best in the saga. Story wise its very good and I loved the pub social side mission. Some insane side missions in this game.

I should buy this collection. I beat 3 on PS3, quit 4 halfway through for some reason and never played 5.
You should play 5, it provides context for Haruka's situation in 6 which isn't referenced in game as far as I can remember. 4 has a ton of backstory and character development for Akiyama and Saejima but is otherwise pretty self-contained.
 

-Pyromaniac-

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Oct 25, 2017
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I beat Yakuza 5 today, played it tons this weekend. I may have found one I didn't like....I liked all the rest but this was just too much. I found the story needlessly convoluted, didn't enjoy hopping between way too many characters, etc.

Probably my least fave. Oh well. Started off well and ended well enough but the 2nd and 3rd and probably 4th chapter were a slog for me.

6 should be good though.
 

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You should play 5, it provides context for Haruka's situation in 6 which isn't referenced in game as far as I can remember. 4 has a ton of backstory and character development for Akiyama and Saejima but is otherwise pretty self-contained.

Yeah I know some about 5 and her ambitions. 6 doesn't really explain that, stuff happens as a result of her character in 5 and thats about it.
 

tryagainlater

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've put a crap ton of hours into Y3 and loving it. Still in Ryukyu. I 100%ed 0, Kiwami 1 and 2 but this is looking like a tough one. Some of the minigames are quite difficult. I'm still enjoying going for it though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm like 10 hours into Kawami, and I've spent only like an hour of that on the story.

The good news is that I'm the slot car racing king of Kamurocho.
 

OneThirtyEight

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Oct 28, 2017
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Started up 3 last night. Just 2 hours in. Already refreshing seeing a new town and the orphanage with the beach.

I never tried but i heard you can't pause cut scenes. Is it the same for 4 and 5?
 

8bit

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Oct 27, 2017
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You can pause (and skip) cutscenes in 5.

Currently at the Haruka bit in 5, its a bit of a chore.
 

Chaserjoey

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Oct 27, 2017
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Two and a half hours. Maybe less depending on how fast you move through the content.
Chapter 11 is fairly short and chapter 12 is the final chapter.
Thank you. I knew chapter 12 was the last so I figured it wouldn't be too long but two and a half hours is still a fair chunk aha. Probably won't finish this tonight then!
 

FallenGrace

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Oct 27, 2017
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it's funny, the main plot is so obvious and the gameplay is mainly just learning how Majima fights, but then it goes right for your heart.

It's a slight 2 hours except for the great way it ties into and pays off Yakuza 0.
Yeah the gameplay is nearly all pretty meh but just a couple of scenes, just amazing moments. My favorite parts of Kiwami 2 ha ha.
 

Zonic

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Oct 25, 2017
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Should I be saving items like the bust amulet for substories in Y3? I know I gotta go to the casino, but if it'll help complete a story easier, I'll just save it for then.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Should I be saving items like the bust amulet for substories in Y3? I know I gotta go to the casino, but if it'll help complete a story easier, I'll just save it for then.
I can't recall any side stories in 3 that require gambling items... though there is the Haruka Trust missions that come later on... That said, that stuff is completely optional as its not for any trophy or anything. You should be fine using them whenever you feel like.
 

Zonic

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't recall any side stories in 3 that require gambling items... though there is the Haruka Trust missions that come later on... That said, that stuff is completely optional as its not for any trophy or anything. You should be fine using them whenever you feel like.
Cool, I'm just gonna get the associated trophies & call it good.

Also oh man, Kiryu has fully become a dad.

Haruka: "what's up, uncle kaz?"

One of your options: "the sky"
 
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I'm... confused. How would a game (Yakuza 0) influence plot details in 1-5 when it was released AFTER those games. None of its mentioned because they'd never written any of it yet.
The responsibility definitely falls on Yakuza 0 to be consistent with the games that were developed before it. It's one of my favorite games of all time, but I do admit, it creates some weird continuity and lore issues that I'm not a fan of. Then, Kiwami 2's Majima Saga (which is more or less fanservice for 0 fans) creates even more problems.
Yakuza 0 informs us that after Majima failed to collaborate on the Ueno Seiwa hit with Saejima, he was thrown into a black site and tortured for a year. This contradicts what the Florist tells us in Yakuza 4, which is that after the Ueno Seiwa put a hit out on Saejima's patriarch, Sasai, he went into hiding, but was eventually brought down to Purgatory by Majima. The plot hole here is that Majima couldn't have possibly brought Sasai there while he was still locked away in that black site.

And then there's the fact that according to Yakuza 4, Majima already knew of the Florist and Purgatory as far back as 1985 or so, but in Kiwami 2's Majima Saga (set in February of 2006), there's another contradiction, as we see the two meeting for the very first time, and Majima's confusion when he's told about what Purgatory is.

Unrelated to either of those, you've got Saejima never acknowledging how different Majima became (in both the way he carries himself, and his bizarre sense of fashion) from the kyodai he used to know back in the 80s. I also have a bit of an issue with 0 never acknowledging the existence of Yasuko, especially since Yumi at least gets mention in some lines that tell the player she's away at college. Yasuko was Saejima's sister, and it would stand to reason that Majima would want to verify that she's doing OK, right?
There's more, but that's enough for now. Basically, I can overlook more minor things like storefronts being inconsistent between games, but when they actually start creating inconsistencies, plot holes, and broken lore with the characters, it's a little upsetting.
 
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Almost done with 3, going a lot quicker than I thought. I'm enjoy it and it's changes but yeah, the standard Kiryu gets pulled back into Tojo is wearing thin, so I can see why they went wirh so many characters in 4. Going to play thru 4 before Animal Crossing and my goal is to finish all three games (including 5) before TLOU2. And then 6 in the summer sometime.

cant wait to see the inevitable "The Story So Far" collection for Yakuza lol. I'm guessing it would be 5-6 discs haha
 

Lindsay

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Nov 4, 2017
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Woohoo I legit won the billiards mission an on my first try to! No reloading needed! Easy 100k. Now I'm dragging Haruka around Ryukyu at night and she's as hungry as ever. To the point where as soon as we leave a place she immediately wants to go back in lol. Now she wants me to win a thousand tags at Ceelo which doesn't seem possible since the max bet is 200 an all the players combined don't add up to 1000? Oh yeah close to 6 hours in Chapter 3 an still not ready to move the story forward yet @_@

Do I need to do all subs to fight amon in Y3? I suck at golf :|
Yes and so do I! Luckily it turns out that win or lose that and some other mission counts as cleared an allow ya to fight him.
 

PerrierChaud

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Did they remove the manga preview in Yakuza 5? Can't seem to find them. I remember seeing in the japanese version but haven't checked back when the western PS3 release came out.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Did they remove the manga preview in Yakuza 5? Can't seem to find them. I remember seeing in the japanese version but haven't checked back when the western PS3 release came out.
Only included in the PS3 version. Licensing nightmare as you can imagine. They were removed from the Asian releases of 5 on the PS4 as well unfortunately.
 

8bit

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Oct 27, 2017
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Got through the Princess League, had to do it twice since my son started playing something else without checking if I'd saved the game. Those songs are terrible.
 

Lindsay

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Nov 4, 2017
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Woohoo I relearned Golf enough to unlock the mission related to it and did well enough at that to get a draw! Then after a bunch of attempts, did both of Haruka's golf related missions. To heck with figuring out how to beat her at Shogi though >_<
 

Fhtagn

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Oct 25, 2017
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why is Bowling in Y3 remaster so hard/bad? The pins fall down dead as if they have magnets in the floor preventing momentum.
 

shadowman16

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why is Bowling in Y3 remaster so hard/bad? The pins fall down dead as if they have magnets in the floor preventing momentum.
Frame rate change from 30 to 60 probably. But hard? Not really... I cleared it first time. Its easy to hit the pins in the sweet spot to get strikes and hit a 200+ game.

The above was my first try booting the game up to check bowling as several people mentioned how hard it was. Its just that you need to be slightly more accurate on your aim as the pins don't fall about the place so easy. Still not really hard to do, especially as you only have one bowling ball to use in 3, I replicated my run several times really quick afterwards and scored 200+ consistently.
 

burgerdog

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Oct 27, 2017
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Woohoo I relearned Golf enough to unlock the mission related to it and did well enough at that to get a draw! Then after a bunch of attempts, did both of Haruka's golf related missions. To heck with figuring out how to beat her at Shogi though >_<

I can't even do well enough to get the sub to appear.
 

J75

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Sep 29, 2018
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Since alot of people might not know this, Yakuza 5 remaster actually features higher resolution texture assets. It wasn't just a up res and that's it.
I found a uncompressed image of the PS3 version running on RPCS3 in HD and compared it to my PS4 remaster. This is the Tatsuya noddles minigame. As you can see here in the curtain with the black circles all over it, the texture is higher res on PS4. While it isn't a night and day difference, it shows you the extra effort they put on the remaster.
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Lindsay

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Frame rate change from 30 to 60 probably. But hard? Not really... I cleared it first time. Its easy to hit the pins in the sweet spot to get strikes and hit a 200+ game.

The above was my first try booting the game up to check bowling as several people mentioned how hard it was. Its just that you need to be slightly more accurate on your aim as the pins don't fall about the place so easy. Still not really hard to do, especially as you only have one bowling ball to use in 3, I replicated my run several times really quick afterwards and scored 200+ consistently.

Nice sweet spot an different from the one I use! I like Y3/4 bowling so yeah also gotta disagree about the hard part.

I can't even do well enough to get the sub to appear.
It took me about maybe an hour of trying the competition over and over (often quitting out and retrying after bombing the first/second holes) before I got it and in the process made all my money back by coming in second. I'm real bad at putting >.< Are you using halfpower shots when needed? I think all but two of the holes can get you real close to the hole from the first shot.
 

Fhtagn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Frame rate change from 30 to 60 probably. But hard? Not really... I cleared it first time. Its easy to hit the pins in the sweet spot to get strikes and hit a 200+ game.

The above was my first try booting the game up to check bowling as several people mentioned how hard it was. Its just that you need to be slightly more accurate on your aim as the pins don't fall about the place so easy. Still not really hard to do, especially as you only have one bowling ball to use in 3, I replicated my run several times really quick afterwards and scored 200+ consistently.


hard may be the wrong word, extremely unrealistic physics would be closer. I bowled a 100 on my first try and on a real lane the same frames would have been a 150. Pins are never that dead in real life.
 

chrominance

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Since alot of people might not know this, Yakuza 5 remaster actually features higher resolution texture assets. It wasn't just a up res and that's it.
I found a uncompressed image of the PS3 version running on RPCS3 in HD and compared it to my PS4 remaster. This is the Tatsuya noddles minigame. As you can see here in the curtain with the black circles all over it, the texture is higher res on PS4. While it isn't a night and day difference, it shows you the extra effort they put on the remaster.
comparison.png

I wonder why they didn't do this for all the games, or maybe they just did it inconsistently. I feel like some textures in Y3 might be improved, but there are obvious ones (Majima's snakeskin jacket and Kiryu's Okinawa shirt, for example) that either weren't touched at all or were somehow even more like pixelated barf on the PS3 version.
 

J75

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I wonder why they didn't do this for all the games, or maybe they just did it inconsistently. I feel like some textures in Y3 might be improved, but there are obvious ones (Majima's snakeskin jacket and Kiryu's Okinawa shirt, for example) that either weren't touched at all or were somehow even more like pixelated barf on the PS3 version.
Yeah, some of 3's textures in the character models look rough. I don't think these Y5 ones are brand new assets, just the same ones but in higher resolution. Alot of devs create assets in super high resolutions and then have to downgrade them when they reach the game. My guess is since 5 is a newer game, they likely still had access to the original uncompressed elements of the game and didn't for 3 being older and all, just a guess of course.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I was not expecting the FMV when I finished the hostess storyline.

I'm really glad my roommate didn't walk through the living room at that moment.
 

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Picked up my copy today! The same gamestop had a PS3 copy of Yakuza 3 in decent-ish condition as well. Thinking about getting that just for collection purposes.
 

chrominance

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Yeah, some of 3's textures in the character models look rough. I don't think these Y5 ones are brand new assets, just the same ones but in higher resolution. Alot of devs create assets in super high resolutions and then have to downgrade them when they reach the game. My guess is since 5 is a newer game, they likely still had access to the original uncompressed elements of the game and didn't for 3 being older and all, just a guess of course.

It's weird, though, because they do have higher-resolution textures for both pieces of clothing; you can see them in cutscenes. I'd have to go back and double-check that they aren't pre-rendered ones, but I feel like I saw at least a few 60fps cutscenes (and thus not pre-rendered) that had higher-resolution textures. I would understand the assets not being recoverable if the only time you saw them was in movie clips, but they must be in the engine in some form if they show up in in-engine cutscenes. But maybe the cutscene models are sufficiently different that remapping the high-res textures would be too much work? Who knows.

In any case, more something I'm curious about, and not actually something that affects the quality of the game in a meaningful way.
 

Lindsay

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Nov 4, 2017
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Wouldn't it make the games look kinda disjointed if models/textures in some places were updated while at the same time, even in the same scenes, others were not? 3 & 4 looked good as they were on PS3 an still do on these remasters. I dunno how 5 will look compared to its original version but hopefully it didn't turn out looking odd because some things were updated.
 

Dmax3901

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Oct 25, 2017
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Finished Yakuza 3 a couple of weeks ago and started doing the substories but it started to drag pretty quick. The way they're organised, how they show up on the map and in the substory screen, has improved so much since 3 that trying to do them here was a chore.

Decided to leave it for now and started Yakuza 4... This Akiyama guy seems pretty rad. Like a mix of Majima, Kiryu and Yagami lol.