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Eppcetera

Member
Mar 3, 2018
1,911
I'm excited for Yakuza 5 tomorrow. I got the digital version shortly after release and have been playing the games as they come out. I'm also ready for Yakuza 6, which I already own and has been sitting on my shelf for a long time, unplayed.
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,980
On the topic of other things in this image, I really need to get that NMH CE for my Suda set. Weirdly, I don't recognize it. I've seen the Hopper's Edition for NTSC-J, hadn't seen this PAL CE(?) before.
Its a promo copy. A friend that worked for Gamestation (I think) way back when had a ton of them and gave it to me for free. While the screen tearing is a little annoying, its still NMH so its still a blast to play! Plus the optional boss rush mode with stuff from NMH2 is a pretty neat extra.
 

MZZ

Member
Nov 2, 2017
4,262
Hmm... I already have all the ones released on PS4 (and enjoyed all of them). Might as well grab these before 7 arrives.
 

Fhtagn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,615
Have you seen some of the Heat actions? Kiryu is a stone-cold murderer in every fight he gets into.

I think I saw this suggested on twitter once, but I like it and it's my head-canon now too: The fights in Yakuza aren't really happening this way, we're seeing the fights as described by the people who get beat up in them, who are making Kiryu out to be a bigger badass than he really is, as a way of sidestepping the embarrassment of having lost a fist fight.
 

KingWillance

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,377
I think I saw this suggested on twitter once, but I like it and it's my head-canon now too: The fights in Yakuza aren't really happening this way, we're seeing the fights as described by the people who get beat up in them, who are making Kiryu out to be a bigger badass than he really is, as a way of sidestepping the embarrassment of having lost a fist fight.

This is my headcanon from now on

(Though Kiryu absolutely beat up two tigers)
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,980
I think I saw this suggested on twitter once, but I like it and it's my head-canon now too: The fights in Yakuza aren't really happening this way, we're seeing the fights as described by the people who get beat up in them, who are making Kiryu out to be a bigger badass than he really is, as a way of sidestepping the embarrassment of having lost a fist fight.
Nah, gotta disagree with that. Kiryu is as bigger badass as he's portrayed and its actually covered in game canon, that is if you play the PSP games - as in those its referenced that gangs/Yakuza family new recruits have to take on hazing which boils down to fighting, and inevitably getting their asses handled to them by Kiryu. He's not called "The Legendary Dragon of Dojima" for nothing!
 

J75

Member
Sep 29, 2018
6,617
What improvements do these have over the PS3 versions? Do they run at 60 fps?
Yes, 60fps. However, particularly with Yakuza 5, one big improvement i noticed comparing both the PS3 and PS4 versions that they actually went back and updated a lot of the textures with higher resolution ones, so a lot of work went into the game. Not sure if its the same with 3,4. Gotta take another look.
 

Miang

Member
Oct 28, 2017
625
Gonna pick this up soon. I'm a recent Yakuza convert - played 0 and Kiwami over the last couple of months, and have Kiwami 2 ready to go. Having a break playing something else before I start 2 though. Absolutely loving the series so far!
 

Chessguy1

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,803
i bought it not really sure im gonna play it anytime soon just got it to support ryu ga gotuku studio, i played 0-6 in the past 2-3 years so not really in a rush to play any of them. i wanted to replay 0 sometime, but i guess it's going to be 3-4-5 instead to check out the remastered versions.
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,980
Yes, 60fps. However, particularly with Yakuza 5, one big improvement i noticed comparing both the PS3 and PS4 versions that they actually went back and updated a lot of the textures with higher resolution ones, so a lot of work went into the game. Not sure if its the same with 3,4. Gotta take another look.
3 benefits way more with the res bump and textures in my opinion. 5 still looks good on PS3, but there's definitely several textures in each city in 5 that looks way better than on the PS3, but I find 3 looks way better compared to the PS3 version just due to how damn low res the game was. Its a night and day difference in Okinawa especially.
 

Fhtagn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,615
Nah, gotta disagree with that. Kiryu is as bigger badass as he's portrayed and its actually covered in game canon, that is if you play the PSP games - as in those its referenced that gangs/Yakuza family new recruits have to take on hazing which boils down to fighting, and inevitably getting their asses handled to them by Kiryu. He's not called "The Legendary Dragon of Dojima" for nothing!

oh yeah, he's obviously a true badass, and that gangs send folks to fight him as initiation is a hilarious-but-plausible in-game explanation for why he gets into so many fights. I should have phrased it "embarrassed at having lost a 6 vs 1 fist fight."

Kiryu is the toughest guy in the city, I just think he's not actually stabbing people in the stomach with knives and kicking the knife afterward.
 

dreamfall

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,971
So excited to get my copy tomorrow! Going to revisit 5, just been replaying Kiwami 2 to get super hyped! I hope they make the collection available on PC also, I'd triple dip!
 

Lindsay

Member
Nov 4, 2017
3,135
I wanna go right to Yakuza 5 since it'll be new to me but I also wanna replay 3 & 4. The question is to what extent should I replay 'em? 3 on PS3's sitting at 76.18% completion an 4 on PS3's at a whopping 90.02%! Also I've played through 'em 3(4?) times already in the past. But they're super good so its worth it ta give 'em another go! Decisions >.<;
 

deadfolk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,529
Nuts.

Totally forgot that I had ordered this from amazon.com as a backup when we didn't know if it was coming to EU. I just got a mail that they've sent it!

Wouldn't be an issue, but I'm supposed to collect a copy from Gamestop tomorrow which I preordered!
 

Zonic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,449
Best Buy shipped my copy. I have 4 & 5 via PS+, but only played 5 after playing through 0 & Kiwami, then 6 was coming out so I figured it was finally time to play 5. Not sure if I'll replay 5 because hooooo boy that game sure is a time sink, but it's great that as someone who has played all the other games on PS4 (0, Kiwami, Kiwami 2, & 6), this collection will make it so I've played all US released Yakuza game including Fist of the North Star & Judgment.

....well aside from dead souls but it seems to be okay to skip that one.

Also going from PS4 to PS3 made me realize how much I rely on suspend mode for my console & not have to worry about being at a "good time to save", that may be the best thing when playing 3 & 4.
 
May 15, 2019
2,456
Very curious to replay 3. I didn't like it a decade ago, but with a more complete game in terms of side content and a better translation I'm curious how I'll feel about it. From what I've seen the enemies constantly guarding is still an issue.

Now if we can just get that 1&2 HD Collection localized...
 

Kevers

The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
14,575
Syracuse, NY
I haven't picked up Kiwami 2 yet but I'm thinking of grabbing this now so that I can eventually play the entire series. I've really only finished Kiwami 1 and left off over halfway through 0. It'll be a huge undertaking to get through the next 4 games but hopefully I do.
 

Gen X

Member
Oct 31, 2017
987
New Zealand
I'm keen for this just to have the whole series on one console but there's no way I'm playing through 3, 4 & 5 before I start 6.had Song of Life for 2 years now and still haven't started it because Zero and the two Kiwamis came out. (I started with #3 10 years ago).
 

Odeko

One Winged Slayer
The Fallen
Mar 22, 2018
15,180
West Blue
Never touched Yakuza in my life. Where should I start. With 0 or Kiwami?
0 is probably the better starting point. Generally I recommend release order over chronological, but in this case Kiwami is more of a budget release and 0 is one of the best ones so 0 does a much better job selling the appeal of the series.
 

Reinhard

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,604
I've played the remastered 3 and 4 so now I am ready to play 5.. But I also have Judgment to play so I am a bit torn which to play first. I imagine I'll want a break before starting the next game as it would be Yakuza overload to play back to back.
 

burgerdog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,196
I've played the remastered 3 and 4 so now I am ready to play 5.. But I also have Judgment to play so I am a bit torn which to play first. I imagine I'll want a break before starting the next game as it would be Yakuza overload to play back to back.

Yakuza 5 is super long so maybe take a small break and then play Judgment.
 

Oleander

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,589
I do love how, with 5 coming out, every localised Yakuza game (except Dead Souls, I suppose...) is now available on PS4, and should be backwards compatible on PS5 and easily available to play on current console hardware for the next six or seven years.

Now to just glare at my games distributor of choice, seething that they haven't shipped my copy yet.
 

Zonic

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,449
So I guess I might as well ask, considering 3 & 4 are gonna last me until P5 Royal & FF7R, if I do most of the stuff (i.e. all the side stories and almost all the trophies but not 100% completion because oh god even I don't have the drive & patience for that), how long will those last me?

I'm seeing 3 can take up to like 70ish doing everything while 4 can reach 100. I think 5 can take 120+ & I was at 100 hours but still didn't do all the stuff like the casino, mahjong, etc. & just the main mini-game for each character (i.e. hunting, baseball, rhythm games), but got almost all the trophies aside from Extra Hard & Ultimate Battles.
 

5olid_5nake

Member
Oct 30, 2017
516
Seems to only be available to those who bought the collection on the PS Store, which is pretty awful (as usual) for those who got the physical version. I'm hoping it becomes available to all eventually.
Shame, I cannot fathom why can't they include for physical version digital stuff. Not just for Yakuza, but for other games as well. Oh well...
 

PorcoLighto

Member
Oct 25, 2017
765
Starting 3, but the combat seems to be more sluggish than 0, 1, 2,, 6. etc. Is it just me? Either way, more Yakuza is always good.
 

Mechaplum

Enlightened
Member
Oct 26, 2017
18,832
JP
Picked up my copy today, just only finished Kiwami 2 weeks ago so this is going to be a blast! May take me six months though.

Actually like the combat so far, more than the previous two games.
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,980
So I guess I might as well ask, considering 3 & 4 are gonna last me until P5 Royal & FF7R, if I do most of the stuff (i.e. all the side stories and almost all the trophies but not 100% completion because oh god even I don't have the drive & patience for that), how long will those last me?

I'm seeing 3 can take up to like 70ish doing everything while 4 can reach 100. I think 5 can take 120+ & I was at 100 hours but still didn't do all the stuff like the casino, mahjong, etc. & just the main mini-game for each character (i.e. hunting, baseball, rhythm games), but got almost all the trophies aside from Extra Hard & Ultimate Battles.
Those times sound slightly off for me. 3 took me 100 hours to hit all side stories complete and get the mini game master trophy. But if you just want to do the main story/side story stuff then you could probably get it done in 40/50 hours. I guess it depends if those hostess stories are tied to Amon or not...
4 is way shorter if your focusing on that story, its stretched thin in places with certain chapters nothing more than a cutscene or a boss fight, so in that regard doing the characters side content is practically mandatory to get the most out of it. But again I reckon you can get it done in a good 50 hours if you don't focus on hostesses and that stuff (which are definitely optional this time round). I 100%ed that game and it took a good 120 hours, but even for the trophy list most of that was completely pointless to do (I just wanted to see if I could do it!) 4 has probably the third easiest trophy list in the series outside of 6 and 7 - its basically a sampler of doing everything and not really requiring you to get all that great (aside from Mahjong maybe).

5 though... that one is longer. You can marathon the story pretty fast if you know what to do, but if you plan watching the cutscenes etc. your probably looking at a good 70 hours to do the main game, side stories and "Another Drama" stuff. It took me 150 hours to 100% that one again last year, its not a hard 100%, just an incredibly time consuming one (I loved it, but it involves you basically doing almost everything in the game world).

Very curious to replay 3. I didn't like it a decade ago, but with a more complete game in terms of side content and a better translation I'm curious how I'll feel about it. From what I've seen the enemies constantly guarding is still an issue.

Now if we can just get that 1&2 HD Collection localized...
With the way the studio sees Kiwami 1 and 2 as the canon versions of 1&2 now that's never happening :( Its such a shame as well, Host Kiryu will be condemned to the minds of those that got into the series on the PS2 ;( Its one of the reasons I keep my PS3 around, because I still love those original remasters of 1&2.

Wait so are they not going to do a Yakuza Kiwami 3,4,5 after this?
No, there's no need and no point. Remakes get hit with the budget stick so there will invariably be some corners cut - and that means 5 would get content cut somewhere down the line. And I'd be pissed off at that, because the ton of content in that game is part of the fun. Not to mention the dragon engine combat not being anywhere near as satisfying as 5's combat is, they'd probably mess up one of the best fights in the entire series with Kiryu's inferior DE based move set. Not thanks.
Also, aside from graphics your really not getting much over what these games offer. A load screen here or there won't hurt (they almost instantly load anyway) and while you don't get the physics based DE engine for combat, you get silky smooth 60FPS combat instead, which for each game feels so darn good. Sure 3 doesn't look as good as newer games, but it still plays fine and its still one of my favourite games in the series. I want the team to move on and make new Yakuza games, like 7 and Judge Eyes, not endlessly remake older games for no point.
 

shadowman16

Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,980
Starting 3, but the combat seems to be more sluggish than 0, 1, 2,, 6. etc. Is it just me? Either way, more Yakuza is always good.
3's combat shits all over 6's and Kiwami 2's and its not even close. Kiryu might be bad in the beginning of the game, but once you start leveling him up and get all the Komaki counters he's an infinitely more versatile version of himself than the Dragon Engine games - especially 6 because they took away several key moves of his and nerfed his tiger drop through the ground. Plus 3 is in 60FPS, and unless your playing on PC for Kiwami 2, the DE games are 30FPS and nowhere near as smooth. While those later games do some fun stuff (physics based hilarity and fighting in stores) I'll always attest to the older games having the superior combat when its all said and done - 5 especially has perhaps my favourite version of Kiryu in any Yakuza game, he's incredibly powerful with a load of badass heat moves (several that never return) and then Kiwami after that (better than 0s only because of the way you can fast change stances mid combo etc.)
Just make sure once you reach Kamurocho in chapter 4/5 that your getting those extra Komaki moves, as they are optional, but make things far better especially against bosses if you obtain and master them. One early boss especially turns into a joke against your Tiger Drop.
 

ForKevdo

Member
Nov 2, 2017
1,102
Majima Everywhere getting out of fucking hand

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SolidChamp

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,867
Oh god, it's bad enough I have to wait for my copy to cross oceans, but Amazon ship this fucking thing already!!!