I don't think they would put up a trailer like this if it wasn't Bloodborne.
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Theory: Why From Software's New Project could as well be Bloodborne 2 (image heavy)
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I don't think they would put up a trailer like this if it wasn't Bloodborne.
Gooo new ip, the soulsborne formula is getting stale, i want from software and their considerable talent to go nuts with new ideas.
But it is going to be another soulsborne game because they sell well and that is all people want from them.
But it is going to be another soulsborne game because they sell well and that is all people want from them.
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Acquire are but FS were involved in the development.
I'm interested to know who is the owner of the Tenchu IP.
Anyone?
Nice
Anyway, good work on this. Some of it a bit silly and tenuous but some of it very compelling and convincing!!!!
False, they still have a playstation exclusive pending.
Anyway, good work on this. Some of it a bit silly and tenuous but some of it very compelling and convincing!!!!
Quoting this for new page because some people still seem to think this teaser is for BB2. It's not.
I don't think they would put up a trailer like this if it wasn't Bloodborne.
I disliked Bloodborne combat because it forced you into aggressive or nothing playstyle for the most part.
The beauty of dark souls was the open builds and endless combinations. So much replayability.
At this point, FROM could literally say it's not BB2 and people would still believe it is (I mean they sort of did already, Miyazaki already said they're not working on sequels as for now).
That's exactly the part of Dark Souls I don't care about. But I completely get your point.
Yeah, that's a perfectly valid reason not to like BB. For the record, I also enjoyed BB, but was really not happy when its combat design started leaking into Dark Souls 3.
I legitimately think this is Kuon related.
01.) All of the sounds in the trailer are sounds used in Kuon. The flutes and drums are brief but both are in Kuon, and the final scraping sound sounds like a remastered version of one of the common 'scare' jingles in Kuon:
02.) In the background the language is ancient Chinese. Japan around the 10th-11th century went from China rule to become their own country before it was known as Japan, they used to use ancient Chinese but around this era began to create Japanese. Kuon is LITERALLY set in this time period, when Japanese culture is starting to rise as it's own thing, but China still is deeply rooted in their culture and language.
03.) On-top of this, the scroll in the background looks quite similar to the scrolls you read documents on in Kuon.
04.) There is a rope on the device, which could very easily be Silk Rope (especially as that's what most rope was made of in ancient Japan):
Kuon takes place in a shrine where they specialize in silk creation, that's literally a HUGE plot point to Kuon about their Silk creation process the Shrine uses, so there being what seems to be silk rope ties heavily into the setting of Kuon, as well as the next bit:
05.) In Kuon, there is a world of meat, lakes of blood, and demons beneath a shrine in ancient Japan. The Shrine needs to torture and sacrifice people to appease the demons so this Underworld will not grow out from beyond beneath the shrine. In the trailer the thing that's working seems like a torture device, it has blood being drawn over it's ropes and are pulling up, ALL of which ties in neatly into Kuon's themes.
06.) "Shadows Die Twice" fits perfectly with Kuon. In Kuon there is two Campaigns, "Chapter of Shadow", and "Chapter of Light", aka Yin and Yang. The game has a strong theme of duality, and without spoiling anything "Shadows Die Twice" fits completely with what happens at the end of Chapter of Shadow campaign in Kuon.
07.) This one is obvious and face value but needs to be said I think:The game has two obvious traits shown in its teaser: ancient Japanese culture and a tinge of horror. The IP that literally fits this description from their repertoire is Kuon.
Hell, the fucking rope thing is literally from the main key art of Kuon:
There's also lots of small things, like the Souls Team has to know about Kuon as for example the spell system in Bloodborne is literally the spell system From used in Kuon. They also talked about a 'weird' game and a reimagining in their talks of what was supposed to come this year. People often forget that Demon's Soul was a re-imagining of King's Field, I highly suspect what this project is would be a re-imagining of Kuon. I even doubt it'd use Kuon's name, or be Kuon 2 or something, but I'll bet this ends up being a spiritual successor to Kuon.
The teaser's brief and vague so it's hard to be certain of anything, but I think literally there's more evidence this is Kuon related than anything else that's been suggested.
I'm down with this.
oh I LOVED the game, tbh it's probably my top 5 of all time. The setting, lore, atmosphere and whole package is a Lovecraftian masterpiece. I just really disliked that they forced an aggressive playstyle. It would be perfect if they had shields, more magic and weapons. It almost felt watered down in that reguard. I see why they did it though, the formula was seen as getting stale to some (I personally disagree)
Actually if you look at strictly sales, fan reception and critical reception it's usually the sequel that is more refined, more ambitious and more beloved in like, the vast majority of popular franchises. Heck sometimes it's the third or 4th entry in a video game franchise before a series hits it stride. That's because video games aren't movies. They are interactive pieces of art that inherently benefit from iteration.
It's actually pretty silly to compare games to film in this regard. My view anyway.
That said I have no desire for a Bloodborne 2 unless that's what from really wants to make. I'd rather see something new, mostly becuause Bloodborne is already technically the 4th game in that style and they pretty much perfected it there.
I never spoke about movies or the movie industry, but they aren't different in this regard. Each time a movie is succesful, a sequel has to exist to makes more profit out of the IP, without any regard to the damage that can be done to the aura of the first movie. Those sequels are after thought and turns bad more often than not. Safe money talks better than everything else and sequels in movies mostly are shameless cash grab attempt, unless we're speaking about trilogies that were thought as such from the begining (LOTR etc).
From the top of my head good sequels in the video game industry in the last 20 years are rare, in my opinion. I can think of Mario galaxy 2, Uncharted 2, Portal 2, Half life 2, ZOE2... But the price to pay for those is high, I'll be forever burned by DMC2, MGS2 (technical marvel but a let down overall), KH2 original release, which was awful and Hotline Miami 2. Those are my favorite serie and the sequels to the first game were brutal. I'm kind of ok distant prequel, at least they require some efforts and turns well more often than not (MGS3, DMC3, BBS).
In some genre it's entirely justified though : fighting game, racing game, sport game genre, MP game only... But I still much prefer the way Gran Theft Auto, Persona or Zelda handle it by making a new takes of the serie entirely or completely change the setup.
Not every serie needs sequel and I think people asking for Chrono trigger, TWEWY, Bloodborne, Fez, don't really understand those piece of arts really well and what made them great in the first place (fresh and original proposition yada, yada).
I'd rather it wasn't another Bloodborne. Game was good but is completely overblown by its irritating fan base.
I'm seeing a similar style to B.B. in the teaser, but can't help and feel that it will be a new IP akin to what Demons Souls was to Dark Souls if you catch my drift. I'm seeing more of a Japanese theme here than an old world Victorian one considering the music/sound effects choices and the beautiful calligraphy in the background. Can't wait to find out more.
I hope it's BB and I don't buy that Sony would necessarily attach themselves to the teaser right away as it'd immediately give away what it is, making the cryptic nature of it pointless. There'll be plenty of time for Sony to do all the promoting they want if it is BB2.
It very well might not be, but I hope it is. I just don't think the fact that there isn't a Sony logo present provides any clarity in either direction.
It very well might not be, but I hope it is. I just don't think the fact that there isn't a Sony logo present provides any clarity in either direction.
Yep, like « project beast » was a hint.
Bloodborne's about beasts in many ways. In the lore of course, but even for the main character, which is some kind of beast. No mention for bosses, they often are humans who turned into monsters because of the blood.
Shadows is a big hint, makes me think of stealth
Dies is pretty obvious : hardcore difficulty
Twice : sequel (doesn't fit for Tenchu) or, more probably, 2P coop, maybe asymmetric. This could be, as well, 2 points of view for the story, 2 ways of playthrough.
I want to believe its a Bloodborne sequel mainly because I took the object in the trailer as a trick weapon mechanism breaking. It just made sense to me based on how it was presented.
Shadows dying twice could fit with their boss design they've settled on and were happy with in DS3 and B.B., where every boss has two distinct phases. If bosses are "shadows", killing them once only leads to the second phase with a second life meter where they'd have to be killed again. This would solve one issue with this design, where in some boss fights you'd be able to dish out a bunch of damage and push well into the second phase to make it easier than it was meant to be.
Just my thoughts if this is indeed an action RPG with typical FromSoft combat.
Well, as it was bumped.....
I'm confident we will get a Bloodborne 2, but can't decide if this Shadows Die Twice trailer is a tease for that game. Why would a Sony IP get shown off at the game awards? Surly if it was Bloodborne 2 it would have been shown off at PSX.
I'm confident we will get a Bloodborne 2, but can't decide if this Shadows Die Twice trailer is a tease for that game. Why would a Sony IP get shown off at the game awards? Surly if it was Bloodborne 2 it would have been shown off at PSX.
That Shadows Die Twice is probably not Bloodborne 2, at least that is my opinion.
In spite of that, I do think that we will get either a sequel to Bloodborne or a different new IP exclusive to the PS4/5.
Sony knows how good Bloodborne was for the PS4, I am sure they may want to repeat the same thing soon, maybe with their next console.
In spite of that, I do think that we will get either a sequel to Bloodborne or a different new IP exclusive to the PS4/5.
Sony knows how good Bloodborne was for the PS4, I am sure they may want to repeat the same thing soon, maybe with their next console.
actually its the opposite. Its not likely at all
Various Insiders, Miyazaki denying it, their next big ip.
We know they're making a game that is 'familiar' to the Souls games. It's not a question of what we want.
Bloodborne is my favourite 'Souls' game, by far, and I don't want a sequel at all, but not because DkS2 wasn't great (although complete ass I don't agree with). I don't want one because Bloodborne was about discovering the truth of the nature of that Universe. We've done that now. It's pointless to go back. It would be like a BioShock 4 after Infinite. It would devalue the central conceit of the previous game.
The question is just that if this is the Souls-like or the other new title. It's obviously not the next Armoured Core.
I don't mind if it's not Bloodborne 2 if it is another soulsborne type game. I just hope that it is as good as Bloodborne and dark souls 1.
It's a blood covered hunters workshoppy looking weapon. Either it's BB2 or they were deliberating faking us out
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