They better reject a no deal. Gonna be taking some names on anyone remotely centre/centre left voting to allow a no deal to happen
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Theresa May: “If this deal is not passed then Brexit could be lost"
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... Seeing how it went up till now, they'll reject both and also put another vote to reject a no deal.
So you're left with two weeks, no possibility to extend, no possibility to take the deal presented, and no possibility to take not make the deal.
This would be fun to watch if the stakes weren't that high. Three years, and they still want to have the cake and eat it.
Nope of course not. No deal it will be because nothing else gets passed
why would that be the default? that is not how things work, they will have to decide on it along with some conditions that will make it more likely that all the EU countries agrees to the extension.
I think I've identified why cancelling Article 50 won't happen.
Certainly a very real possibility. But there are already Tories talking about how they can't see any way forward beyond another GE, which increases the likelihood that they would vote to extend the Article 50 period. And then if that were to happen there are only two realistic options.
Should no deal be rejected, the vote on Thursday will be the same thing. Voting against it will be a vote for no deal.
It's no deal then.
May wants Brexit to happen, she knows the benefits it will bring for her agenda.
No deal is political suicide too. Hell, May is already a political deadbeat.
There was a part of me when watching this live that thought she might keel over and die right there and then.
I don't like May but she must have unbelievable pressure on her.
Yup.
Yeah she is done. Might as well do the right thing, but she will be stubborn till her role is fullfilled
The right thing is the sticking point then. Because she'll go for the most selfish option, the one that advances her party's politics.
I don't like her at all, either, but I do feel a certain degree of sympathy for her. But at the same time, she's utterly fucking incompetent and her inability to put country before party is going to fuck all of us.
This government will go down in history as one of the worst, most shambolic, bunch of cunts ever.
I read the best the EU may do is give them an extension by a few weeks, but they will not go past the EU elections. UK needs to be in or out by then.
She probably has a nice stash of money in some offshore financial heaven already.
I occasionally start thinking this way, then I remember she was the architect of the hostile environment policy at the Home Office.
That is the funny thing about it really, the ones that lead the Brexit campaign don't want to touch the nitty-gritty of this. May is stuck to deal with the fall out of what ever happens and some like Boris Johnson can just swoop in and take the leadership while pushing the harderline. The damn coward.
The thing is that once this deal crashes, I don't think that the UK will have much of a liking to all that are involved with the Brexit mess, Johnson included.
Dumb problems require dumb solutions.
Just hold a continuous referendum (not a second one) that asks how long would you like to leave the EU? See, the referendum only asked whether or not the UK should leave the EU, not how long it should leave the EU.
Have the continued referendum have the options
The UK should leave the EU for 5 minutes, then return to being part of the EU
The UK should leave the EU for 5 months, then return to being part of the EU
The UK should leave the EU for at least 5 years before holding any votes to return to the EU
The UK should leave the EU for at least 15 years before holding any votes to return to the EU
After all, the UK voted the leave - it's the will of the people. But now the will of the people about how long the UK should leave needs to be determined - it's extra important to determine that part of the will of the people, you see.
And I have a feeling the EU will be alright with compromising for option A.
Just hold a continuous referendum (not a second one) that asks how long would you like to leave the EU? See, the referendum only asked whether or not the UK should leave the EU, not how long it should leave the EU.
Have the continued referendum have the options
The UK should leave the EU for 5 minutes, then return to being part of the EU
The UK should leave the EU for 5 months, then return to being part of the EU
The UK should leave the EU for at least 5 years before holding any votes to return to the EU
The UK should leave the EU for at least 15 years before holding any votes to return to the EU
After all, the UK voted the leave - it's the will of the people. But now the will of the people about how long the UK should leave needs to be determined - it's extra important to determine that part of the will of the people, you see.
And I have a feeling the EU will be alright with compromising for option A.
She looked utterly defeated, cracking voices and puffy eyes. I think she tried her hardest not crying out during speech
Somewhere deep inside I hope that May decides to utterly fuck the ERG for having fucked her so completely over the last couple of years.
Legally binding vote against no deal which in turn results in a revocation of article 50.
They'd literally scream themselves to death with impotent rage.
Legally binding vote against no deal which in turn results in a revocation of article 50.
They'd literally scream themselves to death with impotent rage.
I think the ECJ basically said they could do it, and the rest of the EU would have to accept it as long as it was done in good faith and not just to force an extension.
Exactly. No-one else wants to have to take responsibility for the consequences of Brexit, but as soon as it's done May will be taken out back and shot and then all of the usual suspects will be lining up to take over, the fucking cunts.
I mean, she's trying to deliver what the people of this country voted for.
She's half way through the resignation door anyway. Fucking pull it, and then leg it.
Seems like she's whipping the Tories against an amendment that would make no deal impossible. So, voting against no deal but leaving it on the table so she can still force her deal through at the last minute.
so 350 mill pounds a week to the NHS and less foreigners in the rural areas of the UK, or?? not sure the deal mentions any of these things
Ofcourse it's not going to mention those things because they're bullshit and half of the country fell for it. She still has the job of crashing us out of the EU, deal or no deal, because we voted for it.
It's funny how the DUP has more power on the future of Scotland, then any other Scottish MP in history including Sturgeon.
So it's expected that the vote today will result in a rejection of a no-deal Brexit.
Thursday's vote might pass meaning the government is in a rather sticky situation. Both a second referendum and GE will be good reason for the EU to grant an extension. May is in a very compromised position. The ride never ends.
It likely means one of the following. A no-deal Brexit, a GE or a second referendum.
Thursday's vote might pass meaning the government is in a rather sticky situation. Both a second referendum and GE will be good reason for the EU to grant an extension. May is in a very compromised position. The ride never ends.
It likely means one of the following. A no-deal Brexit, a GE or a second referendum.
This my worry now.
Vote rejects no deal
Vote accepts to extend
EU say no cos we don't offer a 2nd ref or GE cos May won't do it.
May talks about getting another deal.
March 29th hits and we crash out...
