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Theresa May: “If this deal is not passed then Brexit could be lost"

Oct 27, 2017
2,849
London
Malthouse compromise was already rejected by the EU. Ridiculous. How did these idiots ever become politicians. Instead of pragmatism they choose bullshit ideology. So much for the Conservatives being the 'pragmatic party of sensible governance opposed to radical change' they like to present themselves as.
 

Inuhanyou

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,747
New Jersey
Brexit should have never been a thing...its these types of fools that propagate the desperation of the citizens though and turn a portion of them towards radicalization in the first place
 

ManixMiner

Banned
Dec 17, 2017
1,117
The Un-united Kingdom
A little late on the discussion on having a second ref on May's deal but here is my 2p

My feelings on having a referendum on May’s deal is that, it is only a withdrawal agreement and nothing else, it sets out the length and terms of a transitional period between the U.K. and EU.

There is nothing in there about the future trading relationship, citizen rights, jurisdiction, travel restrictions etc so how can we the public vote on something that is unfinished. It is only 1 part of a very complicated puzzle.

Article 50 is written stupidly, 2 fucking years to realign our entire relationship with the EU is unrealistic it shouldn’t have a time limit attached because as we have seen that a Country becomes an automatic vassal state with no say on direction at the top table. That is enough punishment for any country invoking Article 50. Instead it should be a slow decoupling with a time table on when agreements have to be agreed upon to avoid Country’s just dropping out of the EU.

This whole thing is fucking stupid. The HoC is stupid, May is an idiot she wont give the public a second referendum but she'll keep bringing her deal back multiple times to get the answer she wants, how the fuck is that a democracy? People voted to have our sovereignty back didn't think who they handing that power back too. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't and as we know the fucking Tories are Satan minions who do anything to fuck over the lower classes to make a quick buck.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
387
Maybe May is a Labour and Leave double agent. She just doing order 66 killing the tories and letting labour in power and killing all anti Eu sentiment in the U.K.
 

impingu1984

Member
Oct 31, 2017
1,658
UK

What bollocks is this.... Literally wanting to fall off the cliff... No deal... Fuck it...

Absolute nobheads.

Hope this amendment is shut down fast
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,411
Maybe May is a Labour and Leave double agent. She just doing order 66 killing the tories and letting labour in power and killing all anti Eu sentiment in the U.K.
We still haven't seen evidence that this is gonna kill the Tory party. Polling still has them ahead, though that will likely change during an actual campaign. Internal divisions will still be painful for them sure but they'll just align themselves to whatever's politically convenient when the dust settles.
 

Dopus

Member
Oct 25, 2017
549
Kenneth Clarke talking about revoking Article 50. This would seem to be the only way to stop a no-deal should amedment A be adopted today and the extension voted for tomorrow.
 

Moist_Owlet

Avenger
Dec 26, 2017
2,283
Anyone think the tories dont actually want brexit but are too cowardly to admit they were wrong and walk it back? Throwing the country under the bus to save face is right out of the conservative playbook.
 

Psychotext

Member
Oct 30, 2017
4,615
Baker is Simpleton.

The EU are better prepared for no deal than we are, and you as I've said before... threatening to blow off your own face is not a negotiating position.
 

Lump

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,121
Anyone think the tories dont actually want brexit but are too cowardly to admit they were wrong and walk it back? Throwing the country under the bus to save face is right out of the conservative playbook.
I still say the magic way out of this problem is to propose a continued referendum that posits either leaving the EU temporarily as a “vacation” or leaving on a longer term basis. I bet the EU would extend the deadline for a vote that allowed the UK to either leave for 5 minutes or 5 months or 5 years or longer, depending on the outcome of said vote.

Then if/when the 5 minutes option wins in the vote, just close ports down for 5 minutes on midnight December 31st or something, then back to business. Will of the people after all.
 

Brandson

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,511
No Deal Brexit appears to be the most likely outcome now just because it's the only path forward that will happen without Parliament having to agree to it. Voting against a No Deal won't mean anything without an extension or revoking Article 50, so it's looking like a No Deal to me.
 

Lump

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,121
“Division, clear the lobby.”

You heard him. It’s time to go play Division.
 

Semfry

Member
Oct 25, 2017
473
Well, that was ridiculously close, but I guess a vague hope of avoiding the abyss still remains.
 

MC-MC

Member
Dec 15, 2017
181
I wasn’t expecting it to be that close; that many wanted no deal as an option? WTF?
 

Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,900
The No votes don't mean that they all support no deal. Some were voting with their party so they don't need to resign. This amendment wasn't a free vote like the main vote later on.