And then when everything goes to shit again after another 2 years of doing bugger all we can be all like "APRIL FOOOOOOOLLLSLSLSSSLSLSLSL!!!!!! OLOLOLOLLLOLOLOLO!" as
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Theresa May: “If this deal is not passed then Brexit could be lost"
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And then when everything goes to shit again after another 2 years of doing bugger all we can be all like "APRIL FOOOOOOOLLLSLSLSSSLSLSLSL!!!!!! OLOLOLOLLLOLOLOLO!" as
I'm a brit and have watched all the news and have no idea what is going on.
I'm pretty sure at this point that the British MPs and government are pretty much at the same point as you.
I don't understand this anymore. I'm actively trying to keep up with it, but I genuinely don't know what's going on. I've read the news articles multiple times and still don't get it.
American, but my understanding is:
There is a multiple choice question labeled "choose only one" and Parliament has written "NO" next to each choice.
Try looking at it without the idea that the British government has any form of common sense.
Basically, the UK has three options. The Parliament is currently voting motions against all three of them. Meaning the Uk will default to no deal at the end of the month.
The deal hasn't been agreed (twice), but we don't want to leave without a deal. As it stands right now we will leave without a deal on March 29th regardless.
Next vote is on extending the process, then the vote after is a Meaningful Vote on the deal... Again. Third times the charm I guess.
This is worse than I thought...
Steve Baker and the deputy chairman of erg (forgot his name) have both said they won't be voting for it.
Nobody knows what the fuck they are doing aha. These groups can't even vote along their own lines, let alone party lines.
Pretty much. The "New" deal for the meaningful vote 2 only changed the language of the backstop anyway. Didn't materially change anything from the original deal.
"WILL OF THE PEOPLE" for the peasants, "vote until you get the right result" for the government.
Revoke Article 50
Take May's Deal - Has been rejected a multitude of times now by the government.
Take No Deal - can be achieved by I guess doing what they're doing and running out of time or trying to present some non-existent deal that doesn't exist yet and in which the EU has said they're only allowing the May deal. Also has been rejected by the government.
There is an extension option I guess. But the EU has basically said that requires the UK to also have a plan for a final resolution.
What else is there?
Hope?
Who the fuck am I kidding that went away a few years back
This is the way I understand it:
Imagine you're on a boat and you're on a direct path to barely miss a giant shitberg. The captain has held a vote asking the passengers to keep the course and not hit the giant shitberg, or whether to steer the boat into the giant shitburg.
Seeing an opportunity for the ship to graze the giant shitberg so that some of the shit might fall off to land on several of the minorities riding on the boat, most of the passengers on the boat vote to change course and hit the shitberg.
Per the will of the passengers, the captain is now steering toward the shitberg dead on. The captain warns the officers that they won't just graze the shitberg, but will steer directly into the shitberg if the officers don't decide just how much of the shitberg they want to hit. It turns out the officers as a whole don't want to either graze nor hit the shitberg at all and vote to that effect.
The boat is still headed straight for the shitberg, but as a whole, the officers don't put themselves on record for also voting to hit the shitberg in any way, shape, or form. The captain refuses to steer away from the shitberg at fear of upsetting the passengers that voted to hit the shitberg.
I am a Brit, I also work for the civil service along side the department dealing with EU exit - trust me, we don't even know what the fuck is going on.
Work tomorrow is going to be fun.
I honestly hope the EU stays strong and kicks them out in two weeks if they haven't agreed on anything.
The backstop really sucks and I hope there won't be clashes, but people need to be reminded why we're in this, sometimes with the stick sometimes with a carrot.
The EU is a racist joke? Why should white nations band together to exploit minorities?
Brexit is great provided the UK moves towards a utopian multicultural society.
I wish the EU would just go away. We need global unity not racism.
Brexit is great provided the UK moves towards a utopian multicultural society.
I wish the EU would just go away. We need global unity not racism.
Even that's a lie. The EU would be open to negotiating any number of other forms of Brexit if May would ditch her red lines and the UK would show a genuine political will to do it. Accepting May's deal contingent on a May's Deal vs No Brexit referendum is a fair and reasonable suggestion (and might be where we end up). Straight up revoking article 50 is an option (and arguably now mandated if there's no deal by the deadline). Could delay for a second referendum, delay for a general election (which would only actually help things if the Tories lost their majority or won by a landslide with mostly moderate Brexiteer candidates).
Thing is, May wants to sell her deal as the only deal available, and a clear choice between that, a catastrophic no deal and an undemocratic no Brexit. This is the lie she's been telling for two years now, and we need to be clear that there are other options.
It's the only deal they'll agree on with May. She's not willing to compromise on certain aspects that would provide scope for further negotiation.
I think any possible extension to Article 50 will not be approved by the EU unless May steps down. They are not going to waste any more time dealing with someone who can't achieve anything and won't compromise either.
By hating living in the UK and including the NHS in that you mean how underfunded and treated like shit it has been under Tory rule right?
I really hate these sentiments because it completely ignores or straight up punishes the millions of people here who have 0% responsibility for this mess..don't fantasise about fucking over the population because our politicians are fuckwits
Sorry but what? Viktor Orban's policies in Hungary certainly don't dictate the EU's general policy. Excuse me if you missed your /s.
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Simple, after the Nazi party went to town on minorities you would think a conglomerate of white people would be outlawed.
The EU looks out for European/white interests and no one else's.
What if the vote on the extension fails tomorrow? I guess no deal for good unless May's deal wins at the last second since she won't be revoking article 50
But the chief motivating factor for Brexit was the perception of there being too many immigrants and brown minorities "invading the British Isles" due to "open borders" the EU "forces" on countries.
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This is such a mess and I honest to God thought that by this point they would just cancel this. From every single perspective (except a racist one) Brexit looks like the disaster it is. It's hard to believe that a) the Tory party are even pushing this fuckery b) people still support that party pushing their fuckery. Are the Tories like Republicans in the sense that everyone that isn't in that party wonder how they get votes? From my American perspective, all I see when I look at their party is incompetence.
All the lols. The EU is a utopian multicultural society compared to what the people running the UK want.
Seems like racism can't escape Europe. I still stand by the divided europe is better than a United Europe.
lmao
I know, and both the EU and the UK already got fucked over this, money and time has been spent because some cunt toured a country on a red bus and half of the citizens believed in what they wrote on it. It's not a fantasy, Europe needs to be strong against all these forces trying to tear it apart. I have absolutely nothing against the brits and their magical friends.
True though - this is why revoking Article 50 wouldn't be too bad.
People will be pissed, but then the royal baby pops out in April and the Mail goes back to dedicating 90% of its time to racially tone deaf articles about him/her.