This fucking incel shit has got to stop.

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Alej

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Everyone ! I'm sorry for my indesirable intervention in this thread.

I wasn't really aware of this phenomenon. I'm french and a victim of bullying in the past and i wasn't lucid enough to talk about something else that i thought was related to my experience.

It clearly wasn't.
 
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Everyone ! I'm sorry for my indesirable intervention in this thread.

I wasn't really aware of this phenomenon. I'm french and a victim of bullying in the past and i wasn't lucid enough to talk about something else that i thought was related to my experience.

It clearly wasn't.
Your a good man to come back and explain your position. Apology accepted.
 

R0987

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I don’t invest a whole lot emotionally when to comes to incels but this just pissed me off to no end:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/8pcrk4/incel_burns_down_family_photos_because_hes_ugly/

The gist of it was a incel was pissed at his ‘chad’ great grandfather so to get back at him he burned all his family photos thats 70 years of memories gone because he felt ugly and the reaction of the grandad was just heartbreaking.
Please tell me thats said incel in his avatar.
 

Redcrayon

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I don’t invest a whole lot emotionally when to comes to incels but this just pissed me off to no end:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/8pcrk4/incel_burns_down_family_photos_because_hes_ugly/

The gist of it was a incel was pissed at his ‘chad’ great grandfather so to get back at him he burned all his family photos thats 70 years of memories gone because he felt ugly and the reaction of the grandad was just heartbreaking.
What an awful story, complete lack of understanding what an irreplaceable book of memories half a century old might mean to someone. How heartless do you have to be to be drowning in self-pity, whining about how hard-done-by you are but with zero empathy for your own family.

Had to look up ‘mogged’ when used by incels, according to a user on r/neckbeardthjngs it means:

Mogged- this one basically means being dominated into submission by another male's aesthetics, one can be heightmogged by a tall chad, facemogged by an attractive chad, framemogged by a muscular chad, ect. There also exists obscure versions of the mog, such as the wristmog, eyemog, and the hairmog.
 
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Xiaomi

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I don’t invest a whole lot emotionally when to comes to incels but this just pissed me off to no end:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/8pcrk4/incel_burns_down_family_photos_because_hes_ugly/

The gist of it was a incel was pissed at his ‘chad’ great grandfather so to get back at him he burned all his family photos thats 70 years of memories gone because he felt ugly and the reaction of the grandad was just heartbreaking.
Jesus fucking Christ. Apparently anger-cringe is a thing, because I am feeling it.

Had to look up ‘mogged’ when used by incels, according to a user on r/neckbeardthjngs it means:
So much of this shit is in their heads that it's completely bewildering how they got into such a mindset in the first place. Being "wrist-mogged?" How can you let yourself get hung up on having what are apparently ugly wrists?
 

BrassDragon

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I don’t invest a whole lot emotionally when to comes to incels but this just pissed me off to no end:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/8pcrk4/incel_burns_down_family_photos_because_hes_ugly/

The gist of it was a incel was pissed at his ‘chad’ great grandfather so to get back at him he burned all his family photos thats 70 years of memories gone because he felt ugly and the reaction of the grandad was just heartbreaking.
The casual cruelty here is just mindblowing. But... that superhuman feat of compassion by his great grandfather. That's a level of manliness, maturity and humanity normal-thinking men hope to aspire to. I hope that one day, when the incel overcomes his festering madness, he'll appreciate how meaningful that gesture was.
 

Redcrayon

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I’m going to stop referring to cats as moggies now. Otherwise the next time there’s a territorial fight in my garden it’s going to be one moggie having mogmogged another.
 

Kthulhu

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I've been on the anti-internet anonymity train for at least a decade.

Leading the charge with my avatar.

The fact that you have to basically log in to participate virtually anywhere is one step, but the industry went in the way protecting identity theft rather than holding people accountable for their ****ery.

A large barrier for anti-internet anonymity is that pornography is a billion dollar industry, and nobody wants to be outed for their "step mother; step daughter (in the case of Morgan Freeman, step grand daughter" fantasies ("kink-shaming" they call it). Protection for porn consumers is wayyyy down the list as to why I'm anti-porn, (human trafficking is #1-3), but that's for another thread.
Yes. Anonymity is important because of porn. Not oppresive governments and corporations, but porn. /s

I don’t invest a whole lot emotionally when it comes to incels but this just pissed me off to no end:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/8pcrk4/incel_burns_down_family_photos_because_hes_ugly/

The gist of it was a incel was pissed at his ‘chad’ great grandfather so to get back at him he burned all his family photos thats 70 years of memories gone because he felt ugly and the reaction of the grandad was just heartbreaking.
I almost feel bad for these people until they do shit like this.

Instead of realizing their toxic beliefs are the source of their problems they have chosen to embrace them further and pretend to be victims.
 

NSA

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I don’t invest a whole lot emotionally when it comes to incels but this just pissed me off to no end:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/8pcrk4/incel_burns_down_family_photos_because_hes_ugly/

The gist of it was a incel was pissed at his ‘chad’ great grandfather so to get back at him he burned all his family photos thats 70 years of memories gone because he felt ugly and the reaction of the grandad was just heartbreaking.
Jesus Herbert-Walker Texas Ranger Christ.

Who did these people used to be? Or is this a new phenomenon? Were they just nerds in the past with no outlet for this kind of thing?
 

Redcrayon

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Jesus Herbert-Walker Texas Ranger Christ.

Who did these people used to be? Or is this a new phenomenon? Were they just nerds in the past with no outlet for this kind of thing?
Not so much ‘nerds’ as ‘niceguys’ who gave up on the initial pretense and leaped straight to the unhinged mysogeny.
 
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I don’t invest a whole lot emotionally when it comes to incels but this just pissed me off to no end:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/comments/8pcrk4/incel_burns_down_family_photos_because_hes_ugly/

The gist of it was a incel was pissed at his ‘chad’ great grandfather so to get back at him he burned all his family photos thats 70 years of memories gone because he felt ugly and the reaction of the grandad was just heartbreaking.
What a dickhead.

"My brother I know wanted to fight me but ever since I took up boxing nobody dares touch me." LOL. Yeah I bet you're a regular Mike Tyson.

And that signature. Jeeeeesus Christ.
 

Rahxephon91

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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
 

Crossing Eden

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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
Did you really just try to say #notallincels?
 

Rmagnus

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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
After all the shit that the incels posted and did and treating women as sub humans your take away is this?
 
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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
Really with this? You don't have to declare yourself part of a hate movement if you feel lonely, there are other outlets.
 

Ferrs

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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
The hell you talking about. A guy refusing to date is not an incel. Incel movement is a hate group, plain and simple. There's no excuse in this whole world to justify what they think, say and do.
 

Kimura

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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
What they offer you is a cult- They don't got no solutions, because their solutions is to cast the blame on others. At best it's a colossal waste of your time that will drag you down, at worst, you're part of a hateful movement.

The world doesn't care about you not being able to get laid. The world doesn't care about you, me or anyone else. You're not owed anything. There are millions of people who can not get fucked for many different reasons. There are millions of people with birth defects, genital effects, diseases that keep them from having romantic partners. There are millions of people who are immobile and who will never have sexual satisfaction. There are many many millions of people who are chronically and massively obese or addicted to substance abuse to the point where their body is fucked.

I'm telling you this, because you're inability to get success in the dating world is not unqiue. You *think* the world is out to get you. And you try to convince yourself that standing back and complaining and externalizing your blame is a solution or a way. Fuck that.



Let's say you're unfuckable. I don't think you are, but let us just for good measure assume that you will never ever have success with women. Why not just accept it, and still get a kick ass life anyway? The sooner you accept your reality, the sooner you can move on. The incel movement is full of people who don't want to face reality. People stand back and talk about their problems as a way to not begin doing anything about them.


And you know- no matter how awkward, socially inept, immature, unattractive and off putting you may be, if you just focus on the things you have control over, maybe, maybe in a number of years you will actually emerge into a person women want to be with.

If you think that many of us haven't had dryspells where we were down and nobody wanted to fuck us for long periods of time, you're wrong. You're telling yourself all these absolute truths as an excuse to not do something about your life- moving on.

Life is not about sex or relationships, although it is a part of it. If I were you, I'd get the best out of it. Be a cool person, do cool shit. Try and look at what other people who cannot have sex do. Have you ever talked to someone who is asexual? or a paralyzed? or someone who has a condition where they have to shit in a plastic bag for the rest of their life?

What you've been through, and the rejections you've had fucking sucks. You don't even have to begin telling me, because I can only imagine the torment, self hatred and rejections you must have had. But I am telling you right now- These incels don't got the solution. They are not a group who will do anything good for you, other than validating fake beliefs you want to believe to protect yourself from putting in the work to do better. What you are, screams so loud I can't hear what you are saying. And while I don't know, it's obvious to me that you're going through some irrational self loathing and externalizing of blame that risks putting you down a path that ain't worth it.

You could be a really cool person, if you want to be. A cool person is someone who doesn't hate the world, doesn't bitch and moan about the things they cannot control, someone who always uses the possibilities and options available to them, and someone who gets the best out of it.
Have a great and interesting life. Cut off this baggage and dead weight that is holdng you back.

You will get to see in time that the things you matter and holding you back from happiness, is not what matters. Not the way you think it does. You need to stop difing your worth on the things you don't have, and start looking at your potentials. And let that define you. Some of the coolest people that ever lived where ugly MOFOs who couldn't get sucked by a dyson no matter how hard they tried turning it on.
 
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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
Incels aren't a "rejection of the modern dating world"

They are people who simply don't see women as equals.

They define themselves by hatred.

They are not a solution to your problems friend
 
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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
This poster lets his inabulity to get a girlfriend define who he is and just throws puty partys in every topic like this. He's the root of his problems and is unable to see it.
 

Crossing Eden

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It's clearly a call for help, why are you hitting them with the zinger lol.
It's not a zinger, a call for help can include something other than, "I'm part of this movement too, we're not all misogynists I swear." Not having sex doesn't make you an incel, plenty of people go through periods of time where they aren't having sex even while in relationships. Calling yourself an incel is making a very specific statement. Excuse me if I don't have the patience to sympathize.
 

Monogatari

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I agree. But part of the change should also come from societies attitudes that excarbate these peoples mental problems.
 

Fulminator

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o much of this shit is in their heads that it's completely bewildering how they got into such a mindset in the first place. Being "wrist-mogged?" How can you let yourself get hung up on having what are apparently ugly wrists?
Thin wrists, I assume

I won't lie though, I would describe myself as reasonably attractive, but when surrounded by taller or more fit men even I feel less like a man or less human

Probably a product of lower self confidence

These guys are not victims of society.
They aren't, but people who aren't incels also get hurt by toxic masculinity ideologies
 

Spaltazar

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What the hell is a hotep?
Hotep
An Afrocentric brotha, usually insecure, who claims to be "woke", but actually isn't. Unless you are a straight black man, in a Hotep's eyes, you are responsible for the destruction of "The Black Community". Misogynistic, Homophobic, Transphobic, Conspiracy Theory Afficionado, he will fill your head up with so much pseudo-science and ill-researched historical "facts" you'll be ready to bash his head in with a Google search engine.

The worst offenders of Misogynoir and a Black Woman's headache.
taken from urban dictionary lol
 

Moonkid

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It's not a zinger, a call for help can include something other than, "I'm part of this movement too, we're not all misogynists I swear." Not having sex doesn't make you an incel, plenty of people go through periods of time where they aren't having sex even while in relationships. Calling yourself an incel is making a very specific statement. Excuse me if I don't have the patience to sympathize.
That's all good because it's not sympathy they need and I seriously doubt they came here looking for it anyway (unless they're trolling or posting in bad faith). Your reply just struck me as needlessly catty to someone who's on the verge of being radicalized.

fake edit: Okay so they've been perma-banned, I'm hoping this isn't their first waltz into this thread and they haven't been listening to y'all. Otherwise, yikes.
 
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SteadFast

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What the hell is a hotep?
By and large, a term that denotes a black misogynist and movement about self-assurance and rejection of the concept that black people are oppressed by bettering your own personal life. A lot of comparisons with MRA and the likes, obviously discounting the fact a lot of traditional right-wing fringe movements revolve around you being white. Not that that stops some of them.
 

vhoanox

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From what I know Incel is a cult that use rejection as an accuse to dread hatred and violence on women.
So if you are not lucky in the dating world right now, you are not incel. It is not some innocent support group, it is a hate movement. Pls research carefully about them.
 

Crackhead_Bob

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By and large, a term that denotes a black misogynist and movement about self-assurance and rejection of the concept that black people are oppressed by bettering your own personal life. A lot of comparisons with MRA and the likes, obviously discounting the fact a lot of traditional right-wing fringe movements revolve around you being white. Not that that stops some of them.
So would Ben Carson be a prime example. Or is he simply an uncle tom, as he's commonly referred to as in some circles. Hoteps a new term for me. Incel is something I've only been aware of for the past 6 or so weeks.
 

Crossing Eden

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That's all good because it's not sympathy they need and I seriously doubt they came here looking for it anyway (unless they're trolling or posting in bad faith). Your reply just struck me as needlessly catty to someone who's on the verge of being radicalized.

fake edit: Okay so they've been perma-banned, I'm hoping this isn't their first waltz into this thread and they haven't been listening to y'all. Otherwise, yikes.
I'm pretty sure that person was already radicalized considering the implications of this shit:

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point.We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.
 

Ferrs

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That's all good because it's not sympathy they need and I seriously doubt they came here looking for it anyway (unless they're trolling or posting in bad faith). Your reply just struck me as needlessly catty to someone who's on the verge of being radicalized.

fake edit: Okay so they've been perma-banned, I'm hoping this isn't their first waltz into this thread and they haven't been listening to y'all. Otherwise, yikes.
The guy has been yelling here for weeks and months about not getting laid and people gave him plenty of help but he kept rejecting all because we don't understand him. He can get all the help he wants if he tries, but the problem is first on him. If he wants to ignore help and join a hate movement is on them, but no one is gonna support him.
 
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Crackhead_Bob

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The guy has been yelling here for weeks and months about not getting laid and people gave her plenty of help but he kept rejecting all because we don't understand him. He can get all the help he wants if he tries, but the problem is first on him. If he wants to ignore help and join a hate movement is on them, but no one is gonna support him.
So rejects from 4chan, or infiltrators?
 

SteadFast

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That's all good because it's not sympathy they need and I seriously doubt they came here looking for it anyway (unless they're trolling or posting in bad faith). Your reply just struck me as needlessly catty to someone who's on the verge of being radicalized.

fake edit: Okay so they've been perma-banned, I'm hoping this isn't their first waltz into this thread and they haven't been listening to y'all. Otherwise, yikes.
Not to internet-detective too much, but a glance through their recent post history tells you they've been here purely to state, not listen to others. "I'm a likeable guy..." one post, to rebut any critique with "I don't want to be associated with 'nice guys'..." in another. Contrarian to anything that would be said or recommended to them. If they're on the verge of being radicalised, I'd hold no blame whatsoever on Crossing Eden.

So would Ben Carson be a prime example. Or is he simply an uncle tom, as he's commonly referred to as in some circles. Hoteps a new term for me. Incel is something I've only been aware of for the past 6 or so weeks.
I don't know if Carson himself identifies as such, but certainly his views are the kind that fuel it. Much like incel, it is a relatively newer term than a Uncle Tom, it just hasn't received nearly as much coverage given the spate of incel related attacks we've seen.
 
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Moonkid

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The guy has been yelling here for weeks and months about not getting laid and people gave him plenty of help but he kept rejecting all because we don't understand him. He can get all the help he wants if he tries, but the problem is first on him. If he wants to ignore help and join a hate movement is on them, but no one is gonna support him.
Yeah okay that makes sense then, usually a red bar - even for short suspensions - indicates history of similar behavior. What a shame.
 

Crackhead_Bob

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Not to internet-detective too much, but a glance through their recent post history tells you they've been here purely to state, not listen to others. "I'm a likeable guy..." one post, to rebut any critique with "I don't want to be associated with 'nice guys'..." in another. Contrarian to anything that would be said or recommended to them. If they're on the verge of being radicalised, I'd hold no blame whatsoever on Crossing Eden.



I don't know if Carson himself identifies as such, but certainly his views are the kind that fuel it. Much like incel, it is a relatively newer term than a Uncle Tom, it just hasn't received nearly as much coverage given the spate of incel related attacks we've seen.
Well, the terms "incel" and "hotep" are recent additions to my lexicon. I'm not black myself, but I always found Ben Carson to be very condescending. He might as well give the infamous Bill Cosby poundcake speech every time he opens his mouth on race or gender relations. He's a paragon of truth of neither. A gay black coworker would call him Melba Carson whenever his face would come up on the television screen for some reason. I don't know the context of the remark, but he's not exactly a living bastion of machismo, I assume. But the GOP seems to worship upon the cult of masculinity these days.
 

Red Arremer

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A gay black coworker would call him Melba Carson whenever his face would come up on the television screen for some reason. I don't know the context of the remark
Melba is a dessert that's usually made with peach and vanilla ice cream, with darker sauce (usually raspberry, but I've seen chocolate sauce used) on top, so I think that the implication here is that Ben Carson is a black guy who basically acts like a white guy (the peach/vanilla), and doesn't have the interests of his minority in mind rather than his own personal gain.
Of course, I'm not black either, but that's how I would interpret the remark. A wolf in sheep's clothing, so to speak.
 

Budi

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The more I think about it, the more I feel sympathetic and a part of the incel movement. Not violent or hateful. Just frustrated and refusing the dating world. The idea of men just refusing that world appeals to me. I'm an incel and we All aren't terrible people.

We just see through the lies and useless advice of the normal people with good luck and realize we'd rather cut the crap and get to the point. We don't have any sucsess in the dating world and want other options to solve our pain.

I don't think most of us are looking to hurt anyone. Just stop being in pain and miserable in this human condition. Of which we feel we have no control I .
Hmm not sure if you ever read this since you are banned, but please don't identify with such a group. I understand if you feel some type of connection because of your possible situation (which I know nothing of), but it's not really a a healthy group to be a part of. Many of them are in need of professional help and I'd suggest you would look for professional help too if you feel miserable and an outcast or just alone. There are no easy solutions, associating with incels surely isn't that, and you need to work and atleast evaluate things better. You do have other people to talk with than just incels who tend to spread hurtful and hateful views. Reveling in those views won't make your life any better, just feeling like a victim isn't helpful at all to you.
 
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