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This is the state of diversity in 2019 gaming (Every AAA protagonist’s image, and why diversity matters)
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How do I relate to him? :p
Dhalsim is some stretch armstrong fighter.
You had been putting those words in people's mouths the whole thread(then insulting their reading comprehension). No one is asking for established characters to BECOME minorities. Everyone(including me) is saying that there should be more characters CREATED as minorities, and I further stated that the majority of modern AAA games wouldn't have to change the story a bit, because it's not geared toward the protagonist being a specific race. Having Alexios/Kassandra in AC Odyssey, or Ezio be black or Thai or Indian would be terrible. Aiden Pearce or Joel or Nathan Drake would not. FROM THE START Mr./Mrs. Reading Comprehension.
I said it twice and I will say it just for you again. I brought up the issue specifically because I came from the GOW thread where the point was brought up multiple times by a very very vocal bunch of people.
Again, your lack of comprehension is not my problem buddy.
I find it weird to see the Rock, Kevin Heart, Will Smith, Michael B Jordan etc. leading the movie industry in blockbuster movies but its risky for games. Hardly any strong narrative heavy games featuring women or diverse leads (a few do exist). It would be nice to have fantasy or Scifi games staring more diverse leads. So much unexplored opportunities in the video game industry.
Going by the bio of Laura Cruz I'm going to say no:
Honestly wouldn't mind playing a Tomb Raider/Uncharted spin off with a Laura Cruz character, though I think they'd need to change the name.
I am not doing any "concerned" act. Kindly stop reading things that are not there.
No it doesn't. No one is asking for already established characters to suddenly become minorities in the GoW thread. Kindly stop reading things that are not there.
If you wonder why people seem to continuously not getting what you're talking about, it's because you persist in talking about things that doesn't seem to be there. Don't make vague reference about how "a lot of people are definitely talking about it in the GoW thread" then expect to people to know which people or which post are you talking about. That point doesn't magically becomes apparent no matter how many times you say it.
If you could provide a concrete example about how this worry of yours manifests in the game industry, then we could have a baseline for discussion.
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True Romance reference, amico. In that movie they argued that sicilians had black ancestry because moors conquered the island in the middle age.
You played San Andreas, V, Chinatown Wars and Gay Tony? Even GTA4 comes into this convo as we don't have many games with Balkan protagonists.
Mafia 3 did well, but was also very front-loaded.
The reason Hangar 13 went under is detailed by a report on Kotaku. It wasn't because of Mafia 3, but because they spend time prototyping something that 2K ultimately cancelled. Their initial Mafia 4 idea before that other prototype was meant to be Las Vegas - which makes me think it would just be yet another white dude mafia game.
No I didn't. I admit I'm not a GTA superfan and lost interest in that IP years ago, but you're gonna cite some handheld games and expansion packs and say Rockstar doesn't have a narrow comfort zone as far as protagonists go? It's not a good look for a developer to consign all their diverse player characters to much lower profile titles. I will grant you San Andreas. GTA4 is like slightly outside the box.
How can a developer go 20 years without being the slightest bit interested in stories about a category of people that comprises over half the world's population though? Is a Rockstar game intrinsically about (generally white) masculinity? I guess if that's what they want, then whatever. Seems kinda stale in 2019 though.
This is always such a dumb argument. White straight men don't need to justify their inclusion, why do any other demographics? So long as the representation isn't racist, misogynistic or otherwise bigoted or disrespectful of some culture, bring on as many people of colour, women, LGBTQ+ etc people into games as possible. No representation is far worse than having a diverse cast for "no reason".
They could always study, make research or, even better, ask for help from someone who actually knows.
It would be cool to see more games inspired and based on legend or hystory from less represented cultures of the world. You want to make a game with a black main character ? Good. But why don't make an African MC? why don't make a game set in Africa and base on an African legend? You don't know much about Africa and it's hystory? I'm pretty sure there are lots of African scholars who would gladly educate about their heritage.
Oh. Am I?
(oh, there are black Italians but that really pisses of a bunch of people here)
Shouldn't this thread have been about AAA games from 2018? I mean, we know these aren't all the protagonists from 2019 games, because 2019 hasn't happened yet. There's a decent chance, for example, that Metroid Prime 4 will come out this year, and of course there are completely unannounced titles that will get released. And there are other big games we know are coming out this year that the OP didn't list, like Shenmue 3 and Kingdom Hearts 3; it's hard to list every big game that's going to come out, easier to list ones that have already come out.
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Exactly, no one says "I'd rather have no white characters in games that have developers make characters white for no reason".
Exactly, no one says "I'd rather have no white characters in games that have developers make characters white for no reason".
Grouping the people who live around the mediterranean sea as one racial group is one of the weirdest things ever.
They literally have nothing in common, not ethnically, linguistically, culturally or even politically.
But GTA5 had a black protagonist, who was an important part of the story
Not worth it. This will be the first time I have ever used ignore. I went back and forth for a whole day with him/her and the strawman that they are using as a foundation to insult others. That person literally doesn't want to have a real discussion on the topic, just fight some opinion that posters in another thread supposedly had by attacking members in this one.
That almost never happens, you end up with stories that are so paternalistic that it would've be better if they have never been made . It has to be studios in the same countries with people from said country making those stories
This is one of the most distressing things. It can't be said enough that representation DOESN'T NEED TO BE JUSTIFIED. That's basically saying that it's unrealistic that anyone but a white person could live these average lives or go through whatever other situation and is exclusionary as fuck(and borderline racist).
I'll never forget how weird it was seeing people say they couldn't justify a black protagonist in The Order's fantastical alternate reality but the werewolves were fine.