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This year's live Oscars broadcast will skip the awards for Best Editing and Best Cinematography.

Joe

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Oct 25, 2017
2,622
The Oscars makes me think of baseball games. There's this general consensus that they run way too long and people don't want to watch, but the trouble is that no matter what you try to do to shorten it, you're gonna piss of a significant portion of the viewers who've stuck with you.
 

Gigglepoo

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Oct 25, 2017
3,825
Catering to people who don't like watching the Academy Awards is the dumbest thing imaginable.

Works for me. The Oscars are way too long as it is and the average viewer, who this forum is not, doesn't care about things where they can't see their Stars, hear a song, see a dance, be entertained.
It's the highest-rated non-sporting event in America. It's doing just fine with "casual viewers".
 

LuxCommander

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
527
Los Angeles, CA
That's a hard out for me then. I'd totally take part in a boycott campaign over this; those two awards are for essential parts of filmmaking, and deserve the exposure as much if not more than the rest of them.

Cut the stage antics, honor the craft.
 

shaneo632

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Oct 29, 2017
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Essex, UK
Kinda shocked they didn't relegate the sound awards as most people can't even tell the difference lmao. People actually care about Cinematography and Film Editing.
 

Slayven

I don’t know what you’re talking about
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Oct 25, 2017
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They should just do the show, and release and edited won version online or a broadcast off night.
 

viskod

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Nov 9, 2017
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People are surprised at this? Like the Oscars is actually about rewarding well made films?
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,378
You would think that without a host, they'd save 10 minutes at the opening due to a lack of monologue. You think they'd save another 10 minutes by not having a mid-show skit like when they brought in the tour bus a few years ago. And more. Yet this is the year they claim to be doing it because of time.
 

lazybones18

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gives them plenty of time to pander to the public. Any Disney-related movies playing soon they can show up at like last year?
 

Sweeney Swift

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Oct 25, 2017
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I was already not watching because the Oscars have become atrocious over the years and these last few years have been ridiculously easy to skip. This is just a disrespectful decision on their part, no other way to say it
 

Yabberwocky

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Oct 27, 2017
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What the absolute fuck? That’s appalling disrespectful. You don’t have footage without a cinematographer, and editors bring the story to life, it’s one hell of a job. (The industry needs to spend less time romanticizing directors and more time appreciating editors in general anyway.)

What. The. Fuck.

Wtf? Those are two of the most important aspects of any given film.
Exactly this.
 

mreddie

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Oct 26, 2017
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Misery, AZ
SAGs and BAFTAs matter more at this point. Oscars are the movie Grammys at this point.

3 hour show with no host and still have to skip shit. Fuck off
 

Moppeh

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Oct 28, 2017
2,050
I was already losing interest in the Oscars but this year really finalized my lack of interest. Between the multitude of weird nominations and the disregard categories as key as editing and cinematography, I really don't care any more.

I have often disagreed with a lot of different aspects of the Oscars, but even then, it felt like it was worth checking out? But now, I don't really see the appeal.
 

ArtVandelay

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May 29, 2018
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Maybe throw in a category that people care about instead. Like Best Kiss! Or Best Product Placement presented by Doritos Mountain Dew!
 

Dommo

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Oct 25, 2017
796
Australia
This is the stupidest decision in the world.

You're literally an awards ceremony. You have one job. First and foremost present awards. How fucking hard is that? You'd literally cut everything else out of a broadcast before you cut out the actual reason the ceremony exists.

Likewise, I'm not necessarily tapped into the public consciousness of America, but I'm pretty sure the most enjoyable and exciting part of the Oscars for most people is the actual reveal of awards. It's the revolting, masturbatory, paint-drying shlock that takes place between the presentations that sends people to sleep. Make the whole fucking thing shorter by all means, but the last thing you should be doing is cutting out the actual function of the ceremony what the fuck.
 

CloudWolf

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Oct 26, 2017
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Kinda shocked they didn't relegate the sound awards as most people can't even tell the difference lmao. People actually care about Cinematography and Film Editing.
I was surprised as well, but then I realized Black Panther is nominated for those and Disney/ABC ain't skipping their own possible awards. It's probably also why Live Action Shorts isn't going to be broadcast, but Animated Shorts is.
 

Dommo

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Oct 25, 2017
796
Australia
Here's another thing: I personally think the entire Academy Awards are a joke - not just the ceremony itself but the films that are often picked as winners. But here's the thing: as far as I can tell, most people don't: most people seem to still hold the Oscars in extremely high esteem. If your film has won an academy award, it's still slapped all over the place in marketing, in reviews all the way down to regular folk talking chaf. "Hey did you see that film last week? It won Best Picture, so I wanna check it out."

So regardless of what I think, the Academy Awards actually aren't irrelevant at all, even if the ceremony itself isn't getting good ratings. Which tells me it's not a sinking ship - they just have to recalibrate how they're presenting these things. Taking emphasis and esteem away from the awards themselves but keeping all the rest of the self-congratulatory crap is the worst fucking thing you could do in this regard. Strip it back, change the entire tone and format if necessary. Put it on twitch and YouTube if it needs a new platform to bring in viewers. But don't reduce the actual prestige of winning an academy award. It's literally what you're hanging onto and it still exists in the public consciousness.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I was surprised as well, but then I realized Black Panther is nominated for those and Disney/ABC ain't skipping their own possible awards. It's probably also why Live Action Shorts isn't going to be broadcast, but Animated Shorts is.
That one's kind of a fucking giveaway.

Disney gaining an ever ncreasing share over the media landscape is not gonna be fun
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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The fuck? Skip costuming. Or the two sound awards that nobody knows which is which.
 

TheTyrant

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Nov 27, 2018
989
The Oscars trying to become populist has been a thing since 2009 when they expanded the best picture category. This is just a sad natural progression for them. Cinematography is my favorite category after director and picture, sigh.
 

ViewtifulJC

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Oct 25, 2017
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It’s wild that the president behind these changes is a cinematographer. He’s worked with Lawrence Kasdan, Paul Scrader, Errol Moris, Walter Hill, Johnthan Demme. Shouldn’t he understand how important cinematography is to filmmamking? When Roger Deakins finally won would be have preferred for it to be off-air?

Do the people running this show even LIKE the Oscars???
 

Linkura

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is some MASSIVE bullshit considering they decided to have full performances of all of the song nominees.

Another reason why the Oscars are a joke. Continuing to spiral themselves into irrelevance.
 

TheXbox

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Oct 29, 2017
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So not only the worst nominees in recent memory but also the fewest awards.

And of all the film awards they choose to cut, they choose one about filming.
 

Mcfrank

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Oct 28, 2017
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Useless Fucking Skit - over 6 minutes


Roger Deakins finally wins his fucking oscar - 3 minutes.

Which one is really more important, Academy. Fuck you
 
That's dumb. Editing and cinematography deserve recognition.
Given this year's batch of editing nominees, this may be about the only year where keeping them off the air would be a benefit! But in general and certainly for the cinematography category this year, not having them on screen for the rest of the world to see their achievements rewarded is a big old pile of horse shit.