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Thor entering Wakanda and the live crowd reactions never gets old

Oct 25, 2017
19,685
Rewatching this movie yesterday, I was able to confirm that, yes this is a very cool moment and by far one of the best scenes of the entire movie. It brings a smile to my face to see this scene.

But watching it in a theater at midnight on release day, I couldn't help but be embarrassed by the hooting and hollering. I'm fine with thinking a thing is cool, but cheering at fan service in a theater just makes me cringe. I had the same reaction to the tears and gasps at the film's conclusion. I don't normally have an issue with myself or others being personally affected by art, but for some reason it just feels hollow and disingenuous to me when it's presented in the context of a Marvel movie.

I will probably be watching Endgame a few days late as a result.
Why is it disingenuous for marvel movies? Millions of people have been with these characters for over a decade, and have grown with them. You make it sound like it's someone crying at like bayformers or something. Some people just have some unreasonable hate for the mcu for no reason.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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ERA movie logic
Using your phone during a movie : Punishable by death
Literally screaming and yelling: Endearing and cool
Using a phone isn't a response to the events taking place in a film. Yelling can be. People in theaters can scream when something scary happens. They can cry when something sad happens. Why shouldn't they cheer when something amazing happens?
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Yea, totally comparable to have what a new movie at the time to a decade worth of build up of characters.
I think you're reading the wrong thing from that post. The poster is likely in agreeance with you; they're just showing that this isn't some MAHVEL millennial thing, but natural reactions from regular human beings when they're engrossed in cinema such as this.

People have been screaming, laughing, and cheering in theaters since the silent age. Marvel might be the franchise to really earn it though as you said in your next post - people have gotten to know these characters over the course of a decade. It does add a little extra sauce to the more standard "big damn hero" moments that are popular everywhere.
 
Oct 25, 2017
19,685
I think you're reading the wrong thing from that post. The poster is likely in agreeance with you; they're just showing that this isn't some MAHVEL millennial thing, but natural reactions from regular human beings when they're engrossed in cinema such as this.

People have been screaming, laughing, and cheering in theaters since the silent age. Marvel might be the franchise to really earn it though as you said in your next post - people have gotten to know these characters over the course of a decade. It does add a little extra sauce to the more standard "big damn hero" moments that are popular everywhere.
Well yea, I thought they were saying because people were clapping, but not cheering. To attack people cheering specifically made applause moments is ironic with people calling people who cheer disingenuous. It's just so obvious who irrationally hates the mcu because they don't think its earned the mega popularity it has. Do people cheering during a part with just the blaring avengers theme have the movie ruined for them? They make it seem like people are doing it during the climax of the godfather or something.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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There were a few people that did that shit at my showing and it annoyed me to no end. All theaters should follow the golden theater rule. You can laugh at funny parts, but any other sound means your ass gets kicked out.
 
Jan 11, 2018
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Why is it disingenuous for marvel movies? Millions of people have been with these characters for over a decade, and have grown with them. You make it sound like it's someone crying at like bayformers or something. Some people just have some unreasonable hate for the mcu for no reason.
To be clear, I don't hate the MCU. I've seen every movie outside of Captain Marvel (I'm saving it until I can meet with a friend) and I have almost exclusively enjoyed them. Though, to be fair, I don't think there's as huge a gulf between crying at Transformers and crying at Infinity War as you imply. I grew up with the MCU. They have been a central part of my cultural/filmic education they are a regular fixture of social interactions. I can remember rabidly discussing Iron Man with my friends in middle school. But I still don't jive with the fanaticism that surrounds them.

I haven'f fully processed why it feels disingenuous to me with regard to Marvel as opposed to other films. Honestly, the only reason why I qualified my statement so that it included only Marvel movies was because I remember how much I loved the audience reactions in my viewing of "Get Out." Perhaps that film was simply the exception to my rule, rather than the embodiment of the rule itself.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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When it comes to forums I like to tell people to go out more and meet other actual people because it’s a better experience in comparison to online...
but some of y’all need to stay the fuck in. Away from people who actually like to have fun and have no shame about expressing themselves.
 
Oct 25, 2017
19,685
To be clear, I don't hate the MCU. I've seen every movie outside of Captain Marvel (I'm saving it until I can meet with a friend) and I have almost exclusively enjoyed them. Though, to be fair, I don't think there's as huge a gulf between crying at Transformers and crying at Infinity War as you imply. I grew up with the MCU. They have been a central part of my cultural/filmic education they are a regular fixture of social interactions. I can remember rabidly discussing Iron Man with my friends in middle school. But I still don't jive with the fanaticism that surrounds them.

I haven'f fully processed why it feels disingenuous to me with regard to Marvel as opposed to other films. Honestly, the only reason why I qualified my statement so that it included only Marvel movies was because I remember how much I loved the audience reactions in my viewing of "Get Out." Perhaps that film was simply the exception to my rule, rather than the embodiment of the rule itself.
The fanaticism surrounds them because it's a cinematic universe that has actually worked out great, for over a decade. There hasn't been anything like this.
 
Jan 11, 2018
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The fanaticism surrounds them because it's a cinematic universe that has actually worked out great, for over a decade. There hasn't been anything like this.
Once again, I have been unclear in my terminology. I understand why the films are popular. I agree that it is an unprecedented feat. I just do not find myself to be in the same mindset as the contingent of fans who find it necessary to cheer for expected plot developments in a film.

I suppose I'm just disappointed/concerned by how efficient the franchise has been at wrapping its audience around its finger, because that speaks to the indoctrination (not the most correct word, but close enough) possible under capitalist systems/art created in these contexts. But that's a whole other rabbit hole that I'm going to have to think about on my own time.
 
Nov 4, 2017
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I went opening night and my theatre pretty much marked out everytime a hero came onscreen for the first time. People in particular went apeshit for Cap walking out of the shadow and the first shot of Wakanda. EDIT oh yeah how could I forget, people lose their shit when Tony's 'nano-suited' up the first time.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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And obviously you know the context every single time when somebody looks at their phone, right?
Yes, to spell it out:

Looking at phone: a selfish action that detracts from the collective experience.

Sincere cheering at the right point in a film that’s designed to get the audience to pop off: adds to the collective experience.

There is NO context in which looking at your phone is anything but a selfish act.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Austria
Give me an example where someone looking at their phone benefits the rest of the audience.
Somebody looking at their phone is less distracting than somebody - even if it's just one person - flat out yelling and screaming
This idea that this "benefits the audience" is ludicrous. Some people maybe enjoy it, for others it flat out ruins a scene.
Is this behavior only okay if it's a Marvel movie? Like when I watch, I dunno, Roma and suddenly start howling because I think a scene is great is that also beneficial to the audience?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Somebody looking at their phone is less distracting than somebody - even if it's just one person - flat out yelling and screaming
This idea that this "benefits the audience" is ludicrous. Some people maybe enjoy it, for others it flat out ruins a scene.
Is this behavior only okay if it's a Marvel movie? Like when I watch, I dunno, Roma and suddenly start howling because I think a scene is great is that also beneficial to the audience?
Ok, so, you’re conceding the point that the phone looking is always a individual-focused act rather than a collective one? Good.

Where’s the pop off moment in Roma?

You’re being disingenuous to even bring up Roma. This is about popular crowd pleasing action, horror and comedy blockbusters on opening night, not art house dramas.

“Flat out yelling and screaming” like in the op only happens organically in places where that’s just how it is. And if it’s one person and not the crowd, then yes, it’s distracting and bad. But, again, it all comes down to context.
 
Oct 16, 2018
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Maine
That's not for you to decide.
Nor you.

Is there a sign on the theatre that says "Silence Please?" or "No Talking During the Show?" Not in any theatre that I've visited. But there's always "please put away your cellphones" PSAs before the showing.

Theatres are public arenas, which means when you attend you are subject to how the public reacts. One person over-reacting to what's happening on screen or whipping out their cellphone to text is annoying because it's going against what the rest of the audience is doing. A group of people cheering at a heroic entrance or screaming at a jump scare is normalized because those are expected reactions in the moment.

It IS the same context as sports arenas or concerts, period. And it also varies wildly depending on cultural context - don't get mad if you're a Brit watching a DBZ movie in Latin America and the crowd tears the roof down. YOU'RE the outsider.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,331
Austria
It IS the same context as sports arenas or concerts, period. And it also varies wildly depending on cultural context - don't get mad if you're a Brit watching a DBZ movie in Latin America and the crowd tears the roof down. YOU'RE the outsider.
Yeah, entering a dark place to watch how music and visual interact is totally the same place as going to a stadium, you are right.

I also have no idea where this "If you are a brit and you watch a DBZ movie in Latin America" scenario is coming from. Sure, if everybody does it all the time, whatever. I'm talking about my own personal life not some Brit watching a DBZ movie in Latin America.
And thankfully where I'm from people respect other people's experience enough to not scream and yell cause they think something is awesome.
 
May 11, 2018
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UK
Fun is allowed, just don’t spoil the fun for other people by acting like an insane person, I really do not understand this behavior and thankfully I have never experienced this level of absurdity in the cinema here in Denmark.
Yep, that's the crux here.
You are in public with people who have paid to see the movie, act accordingly.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,911
Holland
My screening didn’t go nuts, but when Thor appears there are a lot of people who whispered excitedly and threw comments around like “god I love this movie so much”

My screening reacted the loudest to the ending. When Thanos sits down and smiles, the credits starting, people let out an audible gasp of disbelief. One girl loudly said “this can’t be the end, can it? Heroes normally win”
 
Scene was awesome and what made itt better in my screening was everyone’s reaction. IW, especially Thor’s entrance scene, was a fun, shared experience.

Oh and in Captain Marvel

In the beginning, the Stan Lee tribute when the screen read “Thank You Stan”, I clapped along with the crowd, but here on Era there’s a weird hang up about clapping during movies which I don’t get.