Supposedly they were asked to do it by (I presume) a member of 8ch. Still huge wtf that they took them up on that offer.
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That's not really true, every site I've looked at has at least one article about the situation.
There are tons of games out there, so it's really not hard for me to avoid supporting a given studio. They sell entertainment products in a crowded marked.
I was sort of looking forward to playing Darksiders on my Switch in a month, but whatevs. Saves me money.
I was sort of looking forward to playing Darksiders on my Switch in a month, but whatevs. Saves me money.
Apparently 8chan really trying to attract Ian Watkins to their site
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No. I called it baffling behaviour that those responsible should be held accountable for. No more, no less.
I said "lackluster response", not "nothing"
When your bar is several articles defending shit a gaming company does or decide to do, or several articles defending anti-consumer practices
and then one soft article on a gaming company doing an AMA on a site banned by google,
"Lackluster" is the most neutral you could say.
Associating with pedophiles and hardcore racists is going to upset some people. You might think that stuff is perfectly fine, but expecting people to calmly move on from it is pretty unrealistic.
How can this thing exist?
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My faith in humanity has reaches a new bottom, and it was low enough already
15 people signed my petition calling for THQ to properly investigate: https://www.change.org/p/thq-nordic...-should-take-firm-action-after-8chan-incident
Their CEO told GI.biz the issue is done, which I think is bonkers for a 1000+ employee division of a big company presenting itself on a child porn site but hey.
Their CEO told GI.biz the issue is done, which I think is bonkers for a 1000+ employee division of a big company presenting itself on a child porn site but hey.
They've gotten the devotion of the 8channers. As such, they can expect that anyone criticizing THQ will be met with harassment campaigns in the future. So they've gotten what they've wanted and this was all very much desired. Heck, they probably had a lower price to pay than they expected.
So THQN is currently with their head deep in the sand, the CEO considers that lame Twitter apology enough and they're just waiting for all of this to blow over.
Great.
I would like to see the media push their business partners then for a reaction. They can't just get away with this scot free.
They will. Era won't even ban promotion of their products. They aren't just getting away scot-free, they're getting away with having made huge inroads into the alt right market. They win from this scenario because nobody is holding them to task and punishing their behavior. Shameful.
This is the worst look I've ever seen for this forum and I think I'm going to take a long, long voluntary break from coming here. If we can't say real abusive child harm is enough.... Then i don't even know man
I'm quite late to the party, but popcorn.gif. Who the sweet fuck at THQ thought this would be a good idea? Who doesn't source their interviewer/ panel? I've never been interviewed by a white supremecist, racist or the like and that's not some immense achievement when it takes 2s to Google. This isn't just shortsighted it's intentionally obtuse.
Kelly Ellis, former Google software engineer and victim of a doxxing campaign from 8chan's /baphomet/
Purely speculation. Phillipp and Fabian seem to very familair with 8chan's "culture" and are likely regulars on the site. One of them probably mentioned they work for THQN and "Mark" approached them asking if they wanted to do an AMA. For some reason they agreed, probably knowing that the higher up individuals like Reinhard and the CEO are at the very least apathetic towards what goes on at 8chan.
You keep pushing this slippery-slope nonsense. "Won't anybody think of the games?" you cry.
THQ Nordic GmbH knowingly engaged with and participated in a site that traffics in homophobia, white supremacy, and child pornography. Any action would apply to the games they publish. Yes, that includes development studios they've purchased in addition to contracted games because they're the publisher.
THQ Nordic GmbH doesn't own Koch Media. There would be no reason to take any action regarding their games, because they're not involved.
The only murkiness here is from your repeated attempts at obfuscation.
The fact that I've seen more condemnation for Athem's load times than for something like this says a lot about the current state of games media.
I'd also like to add that Polygon's article on the issue isn't bad:
https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/26/18241827/thq-nordic-ama-8chan-apology-backlash
It does at least mention Pollice (but not Fabian), and mentions that a lot of people are not taking the apology seriously.
https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/26/18241827/thq-nordic-ama-8chan-apology-backlash
It does at least mention Pollice (but not Fabian), and mentions that a lot of people are not taking the apology seriously.
Ah, yes, a horrible disclaimer in OPs a vast majority of ResetEra users who visit the thread will never read more than once, if even that. Such a massive sore to the eyes, such insurmountable obstacle to get through before getting to the free advertisement that are VGOT OPs & discussions about the game.
Won't someone think of all the developers who suffer from one short paragraph of red (?) disclaimer text.
Not to mention it's false. THQ Nordic GmbH, the company responsible for this garbage, is not THQ Noridc AB. GmbH is its subsidiary.
Others have covered it, but: I think largely the issue is the end, for me? It drops the apologies there without much comment on them or really discussing who was actively involved. I was surprised people were hard on the article when I read it today, but then got to the end and understood.
Should be said that it's not like I think Nathan, of all people, finds this ok or anything. And I appreciate that it does at least include their AMA comments before that, which is more than some other outlets (including mainstream press). But it sorta just... ends, without discussing the apology in the context of those comments, and how easily it's torn apart due to that.
Agreed entirely with Weltall's points here. And I'll add that the opening paragraphs do go soft on them. Treating it almost whimsically as "the mother of all fuck-ups" obfuscates clear evidence that they knew what they were doing and did it anyway. Even if you don't think they're deliberately courting controversy or promoting CP they still knowingly ran with this move and are casually shrugging along as if it never happened.
This especially coming from Kotaku of all sites is even more baffling. I thought they were supposed to be the ones with a spine?
If I could give you a trophy for this I would. Agreed 100%.
This too. For God's sake gamers have some goddamn standards.
This is about what i've come to expect from this site at this point.
So been looking this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_THQ_Nordic_games
I don't want to give these asshats any money by mistake, anyone know if the games marked distribution only are just for physical releases?
I wanted to pick up Pillars of Eternity 2 for xbox at some point, but I don't want a cent of my money going to THQ Nordic after this.
What's really upsetting as I've been waiting for a new TimeSpliters for years, and now these fools are in charge of the IP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_THQ_Nordic_games
I don't want to give these asshats any money by mistake, anyone know if the games marked distribution only are just for physical releases?
I wanted to pick up Pillars of Eternity 2 for xbox at some point, but I don't want a cent of my money going to THQ Nordic after this.
What's really upsetting as I've been waiting for a new TimeSpliters for years, and now these fools are in charge of the IP.
Did that user who someone saw defending the AMA on twitter get nuked here? His profile page doesn't even exist anymore.
Can we not do this.
It's okay to think the response is soft (I might even agree with that), but come on.
From a quick googling, it appears that THQ Nordic only published the physical release of Pillars of Eternity 2, it was Versus Evil who publish the digital version, so if you buy digital no money should go to THQ Nordic but others in this thread may know more so could confirm?
That's typically the case.
I don't know for PoE2 specifically, as that has different publishers for the various platforms. It should list the publisher on the store page.
AB is a holding company. It doesn't direct operations or do anything except dispense money.
The executive in question manages operations for GmbH. That's what he's responsible for.
Thanks, that's what it appeared to me too, but wanted to make sure. I hope other companies rethink working with them in the future, unless THQ's upper management is cleared out. Surprised how much MS partnered with them on that list.
I initially thought, like everyone else here, that going on 8chan was an incredibly stupid idea, but after seeing how this has gone down from media, gamers, and this site even, I don't really think so anymore.
This whole thing will have resulted in a net positive for THQ Nordic and all it took was some crocodile tears and some quick deletes of tweets. Nobody is going to see any punishment or repercussions of any sort from all this. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
The cynic in me is wondering if PR is actually going to start looking at these tactics as a legitimate way to get huge attention for their product with little to no downside.
This whole thing will have resulted in a net positive for THQ Nordic and all it took was some crocodile tears and some quick deletes of tweets. Nobody is going to see any punishment or repercussions of any sort from all this. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.
The cynic in me is wondering if PR is actually going to start looking at these tactics as a legitimate way to get huge attention for their product with little to no downside.
Koch usually does both distribution and marketing.
Austrian, actually.
Yep, and I'll continue to correct those people.
For complete accuracy though: He is part of their management, with his job title being "Director of business and production development". He is also a fairly big shareholder, owning 115,681 class A shares and 655,524 class B shares in THQ Nordic AB
However, he is not technically listed as one of their board members. He is still on their list of management figures though, under their list of senior executives: http://www.thqnordic-investors.com/en/board-and-management/
Here you go. You'll also want to boycott anything made by Sega.
You're going to have a pretty slow year of gaming. Deep Silver publishes all Sega games in Europe. It seems Sega is now guilty by association.
You're probably the best person to ask this to, so ultimately, who are the people to blame for this debacle? And are they people that can simply be fired or are they too important to the company to let go?
So, THQ just went radio silent and it seems there's not much pressure on them besides an article in WaPo. Imagine if shit like that happened in any other industry or even to big guys like Activision or EA, they would be roasted by the media and their corpse would be mutilated by a cheering crowd. Apparently mid-size publishers aren't worthy of the time to thoroughly examine their fuck ups, more importantly, people who can actually put a pressure on THQ (MS, Sony, Valve, Epic etc.) should take a stance on this matter.
What do you think they gained anyway? Just that their name is on everyone's tongue? That's meaningless when it doesn't seem like they were promoting a specific game.
Phillip and Reinhard were the ones who hold the AMA, if they had any common sense they wouldnt do this. It is their fuckup.
Why are you so concerned with finding gotchas and testing people's resolve? If THQ Nordic actually takes appropriate action, there would not be any reason to boycott or disclaim their games at all.
As someone else has stated above in this thread, the majority of people will chalk this up to a mistake and continue buying their games, while the alt right and gg crowd (which is not a small portion of the gaming community) will now go out of their way to support games by thq nordic.
No publicity is bad publicity. There have undoubtedly been many people who have now searched thq nordic and now know what games they publish and will be publishing. That kind of publicity is valuable.
Chalk this up to things I wish I never knew
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