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THQ Nordic holding an AMA on... 8chan (UP: website linked to multiple mass shootings) READ THREADMARKS
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I dunno, I'm a big fan of EZA but the way this conversation went was super disappointing to me.
Taking their PR at face value and then saying it'll blow over is not the kind of coverage I was expecting. They treat it like it was a "haha, oopsie" moment and that's bad.
Maybe it's because they didn't read up enough on it, maybe they really don't want to address it more seriously, but they just came off as dismissive to me. I hate that.
I tried Darksiders 3 a while ago and as a fan of the first two games, thought it was a shame that it was shit.
Now, the quality of the game is no longer the biggest factor in my decision not to buy it.
All their games are the easiest of passes.
"Politically far left" and "normal guy" does not seem to mean much here when you don't stand for anything in the first place, especially when it comes to topics like bigotry and pedophilia. To say they are "far left" and then do this shit just seems beyond the pale; must be really, really far left I guess.
As a clear huge EZA fan I was super dissapointed at the lack of discussion and knowledge they had regarding this topic, only one of them (being blood) was like wait hold up, theres more to this hear than you think to everyone else. I do wish damiani was on the podcast for this because hes the one that wouldnt let this shit slide and would hammer in some good points.
They did a way way way better job with the transphobic jokes made on cd project red gamestore twitter than they did with this topic
Yeah Blood was the only one who was more skeptical. I totally agree with you, if Damiani would have been on he would have definitely had a better grasp on the situation and wouldn't have let it slide this easily.
What an utterly, utterly disappointing response from EZA. I expected more out of them than this "whoops, it'll blow over" response.
Pretty much. Easy way to find out who actually cares and isn't just looking for a funny headline.
Reminds me of how that charity Donkey Kong stream was reduced to "AOC LIKES THE N64!"
This whole mess is just awful.
Funny how the reaction is different from other recent gaming social media incidents. I wonder what could be different here? I wonder...
The comments section makes me almost like the site. Good on them for picking it up, they're pretty sizeable.
Kyle defending the stance of not playing Kenshin characters during that Jump Force Group Stream, only skirts around a publisher for the same thing.
Soooo.., does this mean Kotaku, EZA, Giantbomb, ign, etc.. are cancelled because their reports weren't as condemning and angry as you wanted them to be?
Do we know for certain there hasnt been? I've only been casually following the reactions and fallout from this after it happened, but I feel like making splashy news releases about firings would only partially satiate those turning on thqn, maybe even embolden others.
Edit: to be sure, firings are pretty much required for this monsterous a fuckup.
Well, I'll never buy any of their games after this, that's for sure. I don't care if they were ignorant or are truly rotten to the core: there is no going back from that as far as I'm concerned.
From what we are seeing they were right tho, it seems that its going to blow over. I honestly thought that the PR guy was going to lose his job.
There has been nothing to suggest otherwise, and a couple of journalists who have said they have heard nothing has been done internally yet and they just expect it to blow over.
How do you propose they do that? Era really wants people to quit their jobs and not be able to get severance or unemployment because of execs they have no control over.
Wow. Unbelievable that this happened.
I just pinged that to the BBC and said I was surprised they hadn't picked it up.
Individual users =/= "Era"
I understand why devs don't want to quit their jobs. Devs right now just seem to want a voice more than anything else, and they don't have it.
It's just business as usual, they reckon.
Games media should either reject covering their games, or they should cover them in a way THQ would disapprove of.
For example as brought up in gamesindustry.biz's podcast at 13:56.
No, not at all. It just informs us about where they stand and what matters to them.
What a weird question.
Also worth pointing out that a lot of news spots may have been expecting an apology/firing to come by now because, you know, that makes sense
Now that it looks one isn't coming we can see what's what in the new week
Now that it looks one isn't coming we can see what's what in the new week
As long as you state arguments in a disingenuous way, I'm not sure why you feel anyone should respond in a sincere way.
I don't know what's worse, the fact that they held an AMA on a site that's known for things like pedophilia and white supremacy, or the fact that they haven't fired the people responsible, haven't apologized, and won't respond to questions about it.
It's genuinely unbelievable. I keep thinking that i HAVE to be missing something, but i'm not.
It's genuinely unbelievable. I keep thinking that i HAVE to be missing something, but i'm not.
I've had a busy week at work, so I hadn't read into this situation yet. What the actual fuck were they thinking? There is no way this was an honest mistake. There is no way they didn't at least take a GLANCE at the shithole before agreeing to the ama. They had to have known, at least on some level, what the platform was. The lack of rebutting and playing along with some of those posts is proof of their knowledge imo. Has anyone been fired yet? The entire PR and marketing team needs to go. They just destroyed THQ Nordics image.
Not weird at all for me.
Why is it important to know where they stand on this issue if nobody should react to that stance?
If you're not going to boycott them in the future why is it important for you to know what they think about the issue?
So it's venting without expecting anything real? Like writing "thoughts and prayers" under a news article to at least feel like you did anything?
What's "ERA" saying? I'm wondering about this since this happened. "ERA" isn't a hivemind but even the site itself won't do anything (banning topics, news about THQ to not promote them, not even a manadtory warning in new threads if they're thq related).
So nobody is doing anything except some being pissed and boycotting thq in the future but the majority simply don't care enough.
Aren't they European? I know many countries in the EU can't just fire like that.
I think THQN are beyond the point of forgiveness at this point. They are either utterly incompetent or willfully ignorant of the whole situation.
They're austrian and can't fire at will or at the least they can count on the fired people to sue them and win. There're strong laws in place to protect workers from being fired on the spot. Most of the time you've to give them at least 3 written warnings about their conduct. Maybe you can fire them directly if you can prove they did it with intent of damaging their employer but good luck with that.
And the other big problem is that one of the 3 people who made the ama is the 2nd biggest shareholder of the company. That's not someone you can fire on the spot. That is a job for the top brass of the company and something like that isn't done in a weekend.
Maybe one of the other 2 will be fired and made an example of but the big boy isn't going anywhere.
Dismissive isn't the right word for it because it was framed in a segment of you shouldn't have done that.
There are two problems.
The first problem is that they clearly didn't grasp the seriousness of THQ signalboosting a website blacklisted by search engines. A website that organized swatting events, doxxing campaigns and sharing child pornography. All criminal activity tgat THQ was ok with letting more people know it exists, including minors who are the biggest victims to one of the three crimes.
The second problem is that they didn't pay attention to the specific details. They didn't know that a board member was involved, they didn't know THQ was actively linking the site until an MS rep told them to take it down publicly, and they don't know what type of things were being posted by the community while the ama was happening.
They failed to understand many details and as a result assumed this was a "mistake" instead of a willful strategy that reflects poorly on the entire industry.
If you care to educate them on the matter you could try sending them a message for their corrections segment.
Reporting that doesn't include key details (and ends up painting a "softened" picture of events) is bad reporting, especially if it's skipping on parts of the Five Ws.
I don't mind if these places want to keep covering their games, but the first sentence of every article should refer to them as "THQ Nordic, known for promoting sites with pedophilia" and link to their other article with more details. Every-fucking-time until they do something meaningful.
We need to make sure THQ becomes synonymous with pedophilia. Every article that promotes their games should be flooded with comments about THQ Nordic's endorsement of child porn. Anytime they're mentioned by one of their business partners on Twitter or the like, do the same. Taint their brand until something is done.
Giant Bomb West wasn't that hard on it because they were in the middle of a podcast during the real damning stuff. The GBE crew took it the rest of the way on the Friday podcast.
Let's not forget the swatting and doxxing.
All actions that are unarguably criminal in nature.
Yeah I expected the bare minimum firing of someone at this point just to try and distance themselves from it. Nope.