THQ Nordic holding an AMA on... 8chan (UP: website linked to mass shootings in NZ) READ THREADMARKS

There's zero merit in saying THQ supports terrorism because they posted on 8chan.
The *first fucking thing* posted in their AMA was Heil Hitler, and they just looked past it and kept going. If they don't sympathise with, or outright support nazis, don't you think that would be a gigantic red flag to get the fuck out of there?

Stop being a fucking idiot and looking past the facts. 8chan has always been a site built around pedophilia and racism and abuse. This isn't new, this didn't happen overnight. Not only were they aware of this, but they chose to engage with it.
 
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Nobody is saying that? Then why are people boycotting THQ for things like "choosing to associate with terrorism apologists"? So obviously there had to be some kind of link between 8chan and terrorism prior, right?

I'm not downplaying how bad 8chan is at all, and I've said all along they should NEVER have done an AMA there and at least the PR guy needs to be fired, if not others, but people need to stop blowing things out of proportion as well.

There's zero merit in saying THQ supports terrorism because they posted on 8chan. Like I said, literally nobody said a thing about 8chan and terrorism in relation to this prior to the attack - and that indicates at least to me that there was nothing solid that linked them prior to today, so hammering THQ for a connection that didn't exist seems a bit excessive.

Like I said - hammer them for the things they did, not something that's just not an accusation that bears any weight.
They chose to associate with a hate site that does many reprehensible things including cheering on mass shootings, the event may have just only recently occurred but the community there was always that shit and THQ willingly associated with them knowing full well what they were about before and during the AMA. And that's not even bringing in the discussion that GamerGate sure as shit came off as terrorism to those who were vilified and harassed by that campaign and had their lives threatened while 8chan served as the staging area for such a campaign.
 
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THEN HAMMER THEM FOR BEING FUCKING NAZIS...

Not this:


THQ didn't do an AMA on a site that massacred 49 people. If they did an AMA on it today, then you'd have at least a tangential point and I'd be entirely on board with this.
Why?

We're not dumb, you're acting like no one would have possibly thought that radicalized dudes would post and find audience on 8chan. The whole point of people's outrage is 8chan is known for shit like this. It's not surprising, its expected and anytime this type of awful shit happens you can look to 8chan to have the most disgusting regressive views possible on it.

That's the whole fucking point of why people were in the "what the fuck are you doing" category when they did this AMA and rubbed shoulders with the filth.
 
They chose to associate with a hate site that does many reprehensible things including cheering on mass shootings, the event may have just only recently occurred but the community there was always that shit and THQ willingly associated with them knowing full well what they were about before and during the AMA. And that's not even bringing in the discussion that GamerGate sure as shit came off as terrorism to those who were vilified and harassed by that campaign and had their lives threatened while 8chan served as the staging area for such a campaign.
Again - you can vilify someone for their association with someone else - for the things that person had done PRIOR to the association. You can't fairly vilify them for things that happened after, unless they continue to support them. That's why I'm not comfortable with people saying things like they 'supported massacring 49 people' which is just over the top - that's not downplaying the cesspool they willingly waded into, it's just not timetraveling the shooting prior to their involvement.

Back to that GAF example - it's entirely unfair to say that anyone that posted there prior to Amir0x getting busted for child porn also supported child porn just because they had some connection to him - even if it was being unfairly banned for bullshit. Nobody - that we know of at least - knew about it. You can judge the fuck out of anyone that chooses to keep associating with Amir0x AFTERWARDS though, and that's entirely fair.
 
Back to that GAF example
This is a worthless example. If GAF had been known as a site that housed pedophiles before Amir0x being caught then, yeah, it would be a good comparison. But it wasn't, and Amir0x's actions went against the ideology of people who used GAF at the time

8chan is a website for Nazis and pedophiles. That's specifically what it was built for. Your comparison is as worthless as your argument
 
This is a worthless example. If GAF had been known as a site that housed pedophiles before Amir0x being caught then, yeah, it would be a good comparison. But it wasn't, and Amir0x's actions went against the ideology of people who used GAF at the time

8chan is a website for Nazis and pedophiles. That's specifically what it was built for. Your comparison is as worthless as your argument
Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
 
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Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
nazis, not terrorists
 
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Again - you can vilify someone for their association with someone else - for the things that person had done PRIOR to the association. You can't fairly vilify them for things that happened after, unless they continue to support them. That's why I'm not comfortable with people saying things like they 'supported massacring 49 people' which is just over the top - that's not downplaying the cesspool they willingly waded into, it's just not timetraveling the shooting prior to their involvement.

Back to that GAF example - it's entirely unfair to say that anyone that posted there prior to Amir0x getting busted for child porn also supported child porn just because they had some connection to him - even if it was being unfairly banned for bullshit. Nobody - that we know of at least - knew about it. You can judge the fuck out of anyone that chooses to keep associating with Amir0x AFTERWARDS though, and that's entirely fair.
What's being vilified is that THQ in their judgement thought it was a good idea to associate with 8chan knowing full well what they were and capable of. It's a cesspool of a hate site. if they didn't know 8chan's community was capable of the behavior shown in recent days that also should be grounds for questioning their judgement as a company on top of associating with 8chan at all. THQ saw 8chan as just as valid as FB or Reddit in terms of hosting a AMA, people damn well can question and vilify their actions and judgement that led them to that decision AND seek to hold them responsible for essentially advertising such a site exists, THQ holds a number of licenses for games nevermind that games as a industry leans young in terms of consumers. It is absolutely reckless of them to have associated with 8chan, comment about lolis, make a joke about blatant homophobia and willfully ignore Nazi salutes.

So if a company demonstrates their values in such a way that they don't bat an eye at white supremacy, Nazism, CP, racism, homophobia and see such a site that was delisted by google itself, it should come as no surprise if potential customers who don't agree with said values try to hold them to the god damn mark and say "no this shit isn't gonna be tolerated and i wont patronize your company until you get your shit together".

Edit saw this later post so ill respond to it here:

Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
You're missing the point because shit like GamerGate is fucking terrorism which 8chan had a reputation for well before the AMA and THQ didn't bat a god damn eye at such a rep.
 
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Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
Today I learned that the goal of naziism isn't terror. Only the eradication of anyone who isn't like them.

What an argument. Think about what "terrorism" means. To sow terror. 8ch sows terror in many forms through all of its victimizing crimes.

It'd be okay to realize and admit you're being foolish, then take a breather.
 
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Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
WTF, Nazis are terrorists. They systematically comitted genocide against Jews and other groups, and their remnants still commit hundreds of terrorist acts.
 

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Vavra was posting on 8ch back in 2014/5. THQ had to have known the baggage when they picked him up, but not only did they not care but they proceeded to pander to them even harder.

Milo and Steve Bannon DIRECTLY helped GG, and guess what they've been doing the last 3 years? Arguing that there isn't a link between GG and white nationalist groups is woefully ignorant at BEST. THQ wasn't ignorant, though, not based off of their replies in the thread and how they dragged their heels to end that AMA. MULTIPLE people answered questions.

They. Are. Complicit. They didn't load the gun, or fire the shots, but they knowingly propagated a community that openly fostered the shooters ideals. They even fucking cheered him on. Just because 8ch hadn't killed anyone *yet* when they had the AMA doesn't mean shit, the signs were already well there for years.
 
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Terrorism is "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.".

The Nazis were literal terrorists.

Many of their supporters technically aren't, but they are terrorist sympathizers, and the jump from one to the other is small and inevitable.

Just like how the jump from 8chan Nazi poster to murderer was always inevitable. It's a breeding ground for it.
 
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It's funny that this guy Sexyphobe went in here clearly defending this 8chan bullshit and saying "I'm not defending them!!" but a user on Reddit with the same name posts on some subreddits defending the fucking Donald Trump.

I swear, these assholes are so easy to read.
 
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They. Are. Complicit. They didn't load the gun, or fire the shots, but they knowingly propagated a community that openly fostered the shooters ideals. They even fucking cheered him on. Just because 8ch hadn't killed anyone *yet* when they had the AMA doesn't mean shit, the signs were already well there for years.
Stochastic terrorism: the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted.
 
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It's funny that this guy Sexyphobe went in here clearly defending this 8chan bullshit and saying "I'm not defending them!!" but a user on Reddit with the same name posts on some subreddits defending the fucking Donald Trump.

I swear, these assholes are so easy to read.
It's also quite curious that in over 800 posts on this site that user had never left three topics - Microsoft Game Studios, the XBOX Live OT, and last year's Game Awards.

Those aren't weird; so what, they have specific tastes.

But, in any given day there are topics in gaming, let alone etcetera, about social issues and controversies.

And this is the single one they venture into to comment on?
 
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It's also quite curious that in over 800 posts on this site that user had never left three topics - Microsoft Game Studios, the XBOX Live OT, and last year's Game Awards.

Those aren't weird; so what, they have specific tastes.

But, in any given day there are topics in gaming, let alone etcetera, about social issues and controversies.

And this is the single one they venture into to comment on?
The same topics the Reddit user takes part in, might I add. (Frequent poster to /r/conservative and /r/xboxone)

"Hateful subreddits are bad, I'm totally not defending them" my ass.
 
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It's also quite curious that in over 800 posts on this site that user had never left three topics - Microsoft Game Studios, the XBOX Live OT, and last year's Game Awards.

Those aren't weird; so what, they have specific tastes.

But, in any given day there are topics in gaming, let alone etcetera, about social issues and controversies.

And this is the single one they venture into to comment on?
He knew that, if he posted shit like that in here he would be banned easily, it's very strange that he chose this 8chan hill to die, though, lol.

The same topics the Reddit user takes part in, might I add. (Frequent poster to /r/conservative and /r/xboxone)

"Hateful subreddits are bad, I'm totally not defending them" my ass.
Yep, there's no denying that isn't the same person.

It's 100% with the same old shit we see in here every day in different threads.
 
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Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
Oh god. Please retake history class.

Reading this stupidity is bad for my health.
 
Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
They were greeted with “heil hitler” and then kept posting. If can’t see a link to terrorism in the very thread they posted and then advertised publicly for over 12 hours then you might just want to step away from the computer for awhile and think about what is happening out in the real world. Their own AMA was filled with the language of terrorism and they cheered it and advertised it for over 12 hours
 
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He knew that, if he posted shit like that in here he would be banned easily, it's very strange that he chose this 8chan hill to die, though, lol.



Yep, there's no denying that's isn't the same person.

It's 100% with the same old we see in here every day in different threads.
Now I’m beginning to understand why these alts aren’t comfortable with labeling nazis as terrorists.



If it weren’t so depressing and disgusting, the transparency would be comical.

THQ Nordic deserves the pressure they get from not instilling any real consequences from that AMA. The alts trotting in here to downplay 8chan should probably self-reflect on the meaning of the word terror.
 
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Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
Dude included 8chan memes in his damn manifesto.

8chan didn’t become a terrorist meeting place because of this shooting. It already was one.
 
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Now I’m beginning to understand why these alts aren’t comfortable with labeling nazis as terrorists.



If it weren’t so depressing and disgusting, the transparency would be comical.

THQ Nordic deserves the pressure they get from not instilling any real consequences from that AMA. The alts trotting in here to downplay 8chan should probably self-reflect on the meaning of the word terror.

Holy shit.

Just... yikes.
 
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we will all wait for your genuine opinion while you do this bad faith bullshit
Now I’m beginning to understand why these alts aren’t comfortable with labeling nazis as terrorists.



If it weren’t so depressing and disgusting, the transparency would be comical.

THQ Nordic deserves the pressure they get from not instilling any real consequences from that AMA. The alts trotting in here to downplay 8chan should probably self-reflect on the meaning of the word terror.
WEIRD
 
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It's funny that this guy Sexyphobe went in here clearly defending this 8chan bullshit and saying "I'm not defending them!!" but a user on Reddit with the same name posts on some subreddits defending the fucking Donald Trump.

I swear, these assholes are so easy to read.
The fact that he lumped ChapoTrapHouse with those other garbage fire subreddits made it pretty obvious he was just a right wing troll.
 
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It's not like THQ personally created CP and shared it. They fucked up by hosting an AMA on that site, they apologized. Move on, boycotting THQ wouldn't solve the CP problem, it wouldn't solve anything.
Did I seriously wake up to see someone tell me, a victim of child abuse and CP, to move on? As if I haven't tried to live my life and had therapy for it in the past nearly 20 years, bloody hell. I wish it was so fucking easy to move on, you know. Wish I didn't get nightmares and periods of flashbacks where it feels like I'm reliving the events. Wish it were so easy to move on without thinking about the reality that what THQ did might have caused even more of that media to be seen and multiply.
 
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Did I seriously wake up to see someone tell me, a victim of child abuse and CP, to move on? As if I haven't tried to live my life and had therapy for it in the past nearly 20 years, bloody hell. I wish it was so fucking easy to move on, you know. Wish I didn't get nightmares and periods of flashbacks where it feels like I'm reliving the events. Wish it were so easy to move on without thinking about the reality that what THQ did might have caused even more of that media to be seen and multiply.
Sorry you had to see that. The moron has since been banned, and I also called him out on it.
 
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Again - you can vilify someone for their association with someone else - for the things that person had done PRIOR to the association. You can't fairly vilify them for things that happened after, unless they continue to support them. That's why I'm not comfortable with people saying things like they 'supported massacring 49 people' which is just over the top - that's not downplaying the cesspool they willingly waded into, it's just not timetraveling the shooting prior to their involvement.

Back to that GAF example - it's entirely unfair to say that anyone that posted there prior to Amir0x getting busted for child porn also supported child porn just because they had some connection to him - even if it was being unfairly banned for bullshit. Nobody - that we know of at least - knew about it. You can judge the fuck out of anyone that chooses to keep associating with Amir0x AFTERWARDS though, and that's entirely fair.
Your example is weak. Pre-split GAF never supported pedophilia. Hosting AMAs there wouldn't need the preface "we'll clean out the filth." Nobody knew, or could suspect, that Amir0x possessed CP. And GAF actually took action during the scandal to make sure they would never associate with him again.

8chan is well known for supporting pedophilia and fascism. Fantasizing about killing people because of their race is kind of their thing, among other "things". What did 8ch do during the tragedy? Cheer the killer on. This reaction should not be surprising to anyone.

THQ Nordic expected how 8ch would behave and partied with the site's losers.

And think about this: 8ch idiots can lurk anywhere on that site. The same people participating in the AMA could have also cheered on the killer.
 
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Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.

AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.

And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
TIL Nazis are not terrorists.