Nobody is saying that? Then why are people boycotting THQ for things like "choosing to associate with terrorism apologists"? So obviously there had to be some kind of link between 8chan and terrorism prior, right?
I'm not downplaying how bad 8chan is at all, and I've said all along they should NEVER have done an AMA there and at least the PR guy needs to be fired, if not others, but people need to stop blowing things out of proportion as well.
There's zero merit in saying THQ supports terrorism because they posted on 8chan. Like I said, literally nobody said a thing about 8chan and terrorism in relation to this prior to the attack - and that indicates at least to me that there was nothing solid that linked them prior to today, so hammering THQ for a connection that didn't exist seems a bit excessive.
Like I said - hammer them for the things they did, not something that's just not an accusation that bears any weight.
Seems awfully suspicious that when one goes down another one just pops upThis thread is wild. Literally just alt-accounts being drawn to the flame. They're even taking turns.
THEN HAMMER THEM FOR BEING FUCKING NAZIS...
Not this:
THQ didn't do an AMA on a site that massacred 49 people. If they did an AMA on it today, then you'd have at least a tangential point and I'd be entirely on board with this.
8chan has always been a hate website. The shooting that happened doesn't magically change that.THEN HAMMER THEM FOR BEING FUCKING NAZIS...
Not this:
THQ didn't do an AMA on a site that massacred 49 people. If they did an AMA on it today, then you'd have at least a tangential point and I'd be entirely on board with this.
Again - you can vilify someone for their association with someone else - for the things that person had done PRIOR to the association. You can't fairly vilify them for things that happened after, unless they continue to support them. That's why I'm not comfortable with people saying things like they 'supported massacring 49 people' which is just over the top - that's not downplaying the cesspool they willingly waded into, it's just not timetraveling the shooting prior to their involvement.They chose to associate with a hate site that does many reprehensible things including cheering on mass shootings, the event may have just only recently occurred but the community there was always that shit and THQ willingly associated with them knowing full well what they were about before and during the AMA. And that's not even bringing in the discussion that GamerGate sure as shit came off as terrorism to those who were vilified and harassed by that campaign and had their lives threatened while 8chan served as the staging area for such a campaign.
This is a worthless example. If GAF had been known as a site that housed pedophiles before Amir0x being caught then, yeah, it would be a good comparison. But it wasn't, and Amir0x's actions went against the ideology of people who used GAF at the time
Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.This is a worthless example. If GAF had been known as a site that housed pedophiles before Amir0x being caught then, yeah, it would be a good comparison. But it wasn't, and Amir0x's actions went against the ideology of people who used GAF at the time
8chan is a website for Nazis and pedophiles. That's specifically what it was built for. Your comparison is as worthless as your argument
nazis, not terroristsNazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.
And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
People post dumb shit on this website (myself included) but this may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on here.
People post dumb shit on this website (myself included) but this may be the dumbest thing I've ever read on here.
Again - you can vilify someone for their association with someone else - for the things that person had done PRIOR to the association. You can't fairly vilify them for things that happened after, unless they continue to support them. That's why I'm not comfortable with people saying things like they 'supported massacring 49 people' which is just over the top - that's not downplaying the cesspool they willingly waded into, it's just not timetraveling the shooting prior to their involvement.
Back to that GAF example - it's entirely unfair to say that anyone that posted there prior to Amir0x getting busted for child porn also supported child porn just because they had some connection to him - even if it was being unfairly banned for bullshit. Nobody - that we know of at least - knew about it. You can judge the fuck out of anyone that chooses to keep associating with Amir0x AFTERWARDS though, and that's entirely fair.
You're missing the point because shit like GamerGate is fucking terrorism which 8chan had a reputation for well before the AMA and THQ didn't bat a god damn eye at such a rep.Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.
And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
JFC THANK YOUI'd like to point out that Nazis are terrorists and have been for over 80 years.
WTF, Nazis are terrorists. They systematically comitted genocide against Jews and other groups, and their remnants still commit hundreds of terrorist acts.Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.
And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
I don't think you understand what words mean
They. Are. Complicit. They didn't load the gun, or fire the shots, but they knowingly propagated a community that openly fostered the shooters ideals. They even fucking cheered him on. Just because 8ch hadn't killed anyone *yet* when they had the AMA doesn't mean shit, the signs were already well there for years.
It's funny that this guy Sexyphobe went in here clearly defending this 8chan bullshit and saying "I'm not defending them!!" but a user on Reddit with the same name posts on some subreddits defending the fucking Donald Trump.
I swear, these assholes are so easy to read.
There have been a lot of awful takes over the last day or so, but it is maybe the worst"Nazis aren't terrorists" is going to be the take actually puts me immediately to sleep tonight.
The same topics the Reddit user takes part in, might I add. (Frequent poster to /r/conservative and /r/xboxone)It's also quite curious that in over 800 posts on this site that user had never left three topics - Microsoft Game Studios, the XBOX Live OT, and last year's Game Awards.
Those aren't weird; so what, they have specific tastes.
But, in any given day there are topics in gaming, let alone etcetera, about social issues and controversies.
And this is the single one they venture into to comment on?
Krystalnacht was just a firm debate, don't you know.There have been a lot of awful takes over the last day or so, but it is maybe the worst
Just mind boggling
It's also quite curious that in over 800 posts on this site that user had never left three topics - Microsoft Game Studios, the XBOX Live OT, and last year's Game Awards.
Those aren't weird; so what, they have specific tastes.
But, in any given day there are topics in gaming, let alone etcetera, about social issues and controversies.
And this is the single one they venture into to comment on?
The same topics the Reddit user takes part in, might I add. (Frequent poster to /r/conservative and /r/xboxone)
"Hateful subreddits are bad, I'm totally not defending them" my ass.
Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.
And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
"Nazis aren't terrorists" is going to be the take actually puts me immediately to sleep tonight.
Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.
And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
He knew that, if he posted shit like that in here he would be banned easily, it's very strange that he chose this 8chan hill to die, though, lol.
Yep, there's no denying that's isn't the same person.
It's 100% with the same old we see in here every day in different threads.
Dude included 8chan memes in his damn manifesto.Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.
And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
He was literally openly planning it there for weeks, tried to recruit, and livestreamed it for his buddies to watch.Dude included 8chan memes in his damn manifesto.
8chan didn't become a terrorist meeting place because of this shooting. It already was one.
Now I'm beginning to understand why these alts aren't comfortable with labeling nazis as terrorists.
If it weren't so depressing and disgusting, the transparency would be comical.
THQ Nordic deserves the pressure they get from not instilling any real consequences from that AMA. The alts trotting in here to downplay 8chan should probably self-reflect on the meaning of the word terror.
we will all wait for your genuine opinion while you do this bad faith bullshit
WEIRDNow I'm beginning to understand why these alts aren't comfortable with labeling nazis as terrorists.
If it weren't so depressing and disgusting, the transparency would be comical.
THQ Nordic deserves the pressure they get from not instilling any real consequences from that AMA. The alts trotting in here to downplay 8chan should probably self-reflect on the meaning of the word terror.
The fact that he lumped ChapoTrapHouse with those other garbage fire subreddits made it pretty obvious he was just a right wing troll.It's funny that this guy Sexyphobe went in here clearly defending this 8chan bullshit and saying "I'm not defending them!!" but a user on Reddit with the same name posts on some subreddits defending the fucking Donald Trump.
I swear, these assholes are so easy to read.
I actually didn't even notice that.The fact that he lumped ChapoTrapHouse with those other garbage fire subreddits made it pretty obvious he was just a right wing troll.
It's not like THQ personally created CP and shared it. They fucked up by hosting an AMA on that site, they apologized. Move on, boycotting THQ wouldn't solve the CP problem, it wouldn't solve anything.
Sorry you had to see that. The moron has since been banned, and I also called him out on it.Did I seriously wake up to see someone tell me, a victim of child abuse and CP, to move on? As if I haven't tried to live my life and had therapy for it in the past nearly 20 years, bloody hell. I wish it was so fucking easy to move on, you know. Wish I didn't get nightmares and periods of flashbacks where it feels like I'm reliving the events. Wish it were so easy to move on without thinking about the reality that what THQ did might have caused even more of that media to be seen and multiply.
Again - you can vilify someone for their association with someone else - for the things that person had done PRIOR to the association. You can't fairly vilify them for things that happened after, unless they continue to support them. That's why I'm not comfortable with people saying things like they 'supported massacring 49 people' which is just over the top - that's not downplaying the cesspool they willingly waded into, it's just not timetraveling the shooting prior to their involvement.
Back to that GAF example - it's entirely unfair to say that anyone that posted there prior to Amir0x getting busted for child porn also supported child porn just because they had some connection to him - even if it was being unfairly banned for bullshit. Nobody - that we know of at least - knew about it. You can judge the fuck out of anyone that chooses to keep associating with Amir0x AFTERWARDS though, and that's entirely fair.
TIL Nazis are not terrorists.Nazis and pedophiles...not terrorism. That's the point.
AGAIN - THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THE AMA. I'm not saying anything of the sort - Nazis and pedophiles alone seems like more than enough for any rational company to say 'yeah, no thanks' to the offer. I'm saying linking THQ to supporting terrorism for an attack that happened well after the AMA because the attacker gave the place a shoutout is more than I'm willing to put on THQ's shoulders.
And that PR guy still needs to be fired, whether it was intentional or really was just 'ignorance' of what 8chan was.
So dumb, I swear.
That's the stupidest thing I've read in a while.Again - you can vilify someone for their association with someone else - for the things that person had done PRIOR to the association. You can't fairly vilify them for things that happened after, unless they continue to support them. That's why I'm not comfortable with people saying things like they 'supported massacring 49 people' which is just over the top - that's not downplaying the cesspool they willingly waded into, it's just not timetraveling the shooting prior to their involvement.
Back to that GAF example - it's entirely unfair to say that anyone that posted there prior to Amir0x getting busted for child porn also supported child porn just because they had some connection to him - even if it was being unfairly banned for bullshit. Nobody - that we know of at least - knew about it. You can judge the fuck out of anyone that chooses to keep associating with Amir0x AFTERWARDS though, and that's entirely fair.