Fair enough. I just dont see the upside here. Apart from revenge, the basest of human emotions.
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THR: Fox News Host Tucker Carlson's Home Targeted By Anti-Fascist Protesters
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Fair enough. I just dont see the upside here. Apart from revenge, the basest of human emotions.
How did they "threaten" the children? Ringing the doorbell and chanting at their dad? Should people also refrain from criticising their dad online just in case they read it and get upset?
Posts like this should be called out immediatly. This is despicable.
Everybody is somebody's child, so don't go after anyone if they have kids then? Having kids is the barometer of if someone needs to be stopped?
What threats? Can you link me to the Antifa website where they threaten Tucker's kids?
I dunno, we're not running over protesters with our cars or sending bombs in the mail, so not that extreme I guess.
yeah, of course it's easy to for you to say that because you don't have any skin in the game of having the humanity of marginalized people up for debate - if you even go "outside" to have to worry about it
and to you, it is just a game
"logic and reason, but never context" seems to be the motto for apathetic enablers
Name one instance where "I know where you sleep at night" is not used as a threat. I'm willing to check any link on the internet, and I am even willing to throw out context entirely.
They are literally the only ones doing anything and this entire thought process stems from dangerous Centrism. Democrats in power will shake a finger and say a few words, but nothing gets done. At all. If you think they are doing harm by actually fighting against white supremacists, then fight the Nazis in your own way - but don't sit behind a keyboard and imagine what you say is even remotely true.
This is where I got in. You are saying that they didn't receive any sympathy in the public eye. Then the President sympathizes with them. You do realize that affects the public eye too, right? Or does none of that count so that we can pretend that public opinion is only what you want it to be so you can be more angry at the guy who bangs a door over the guy who threatened more violence at media coporations, or the one who send bombs to them?
On the flipside, people who saw that others feel so strongly about how awful Cruz is that they protested him in that way, and may have then voted for Beto as a result. Neither of us can produce evidence of what that protest did in the election.
To be clear, I'm not advocating anything. The French Revolution did have some despicable events.
The people on the right are at least honest. You pretend to not be on a side, but you are wallowing in the status quo.
It being a "base emotion" doesn't mean anything though. Yes, people have emotions, and in this case they have them for good reason. When someone punches you, there is an expectation that they may be punched back, because people operate on emotion, it is inseperable to the human experience.
Please don't thread-police, if there is a problem report it so we don't go off on a derail and get the thread closed
Yeah, swing voters we're totally swayed by what people in another state unrelated to the Beto campaign said or did to Cruz /s
"Literally the only ones doing anything" is literally an exaggeration that you are using to disagree with people who agree with you. You don't need to create that hill, there's enough battles to go around.
https://www.newsweek.com/barack-oba...igation-dijon-mustard-scandal-fox-fake-623643
Fox News ran a real story about Obama eating red meat with mustard
They'll use literally anything as ammunition
Couldnt put it more succinctly myself.
Anyone who voted for Ted Cruz because of that was always gonna vote for him no matter what.
And the downside to allowing them to continue spreading their malice without confrontation is what?
I never said I was happy about it, I said I didn't care it happened.
So both sides are equally close to the point here.
No one would think that a meeting of the Left would happen in North Dakota, Soros is that devious.
He got run out of this thread yesterday after it was discovered that he directly quoted Ben Shapiro in the Acosta thread. Don't even bother with this new trolling.
If people concern themselves with what fascists will use as ammunition against them, literally nothing would be done to protest. They get upset about people kneeling during the national anthem for fucks sake.
Well, I'd say there is pretty obvious evidence that Cruz used it in the final weeks of his campaign to fire up his base.
Yeah, cool that you're ignoring the fact that I was talking about him using it as an appeal to his base. Not swing voters, dummy.
Yes, obviously. I am assuming they are indeed family, and that they do sleep in the same house.
Just to be clear. I will support protesting outside of somebody's house. This one specifically, was stupid, lazy, and not thought out.
the power point in shifting minds lies in the suburbs
last midterms demonstrated that if you win the suburbs, you win the House.
going forward, do you really thing that going full Euro-Antifa is going to work? LOL
the end goal is what exactly? think you are always right but not move anything? or actually getting people on board and make the Earth shake by bring them along with you to make the change?
There is no evidence this did anything to bring people to the polls to vote for him. Him referencing it is not evidence.
i like how pages ago someone brought up that one of their former professors got the exact same treatment caused by Tucker riling up his audience to go harass them and it got no attention
two wrongs don't make a right, but that first wrongdoer sure is insistent on continually doing the same wrong over and over...
two wrongs don't make a right, but that first wrongdoer sure is insistent on continually doing the same wrong over and over...
I don't want to have to physically fight either. I am 4'11". I'm fragile as fuck.
But I'm not ignorant to that I think I will never have to, or that my own aversion to pain supersedes justice. I made plans awhile ago to go to call out of work and go to Atlanta to confront white supremacists when they were planning on showing up there some time after Charlottesville (the little bitches cancelled). They have no place in my home. If I'm not going to protect it, then who will?
We all have different reasons and different thresholds though. Maybe someone else wouldn't have gone to confront some white supremacists because they can't call out, or they've got people to worry about and take care of, or that they don't see it as worthwhile because the gathering is small. That's fine. But they and others like them don't get the high ground to stand on the sidelines and tell people not to put themselves in harm's way to fight off flagrant evil. To see people on the left beginning to stand up gives me hope, a lot more hope than the majority of the people on this board espousing inaction ever will. I know there's people out there who, if I ever need it, will put themselves between me and a white supremacist. That is a slight assurance to me in a world where these guys are going nuts yet again.
So, if you don't want to get down and dirty, that's cool. Just don't get in the fucking way of those that are willing to.
No. I compared it to targeted harassment of abortion providers and their families at their homes. Although you are correct that those tactics often escalate to violence.
It's important to note that they were rather protective of the fledgling republic and were willing to do whatever it took to protect it.
The heads of milquetoast centrist were a small price to pay in their view.
His base already hates the left. If you think protesting him in a restaurant had any effect at all then you are a fool who doesn't understand the mind of the average Republican.
Er...that's where I grew up so that's kind of funny that you mentioned it.
and who was it who encouraged that harassment and continues to do so?
we need to DO SOMETHING because right wing provocateurs aren't going to stop their harassment campaigns and stochastic terrorism out of the goodness of their hearts - and i want to see this handled with the non-violent tactics like deplatforming and protest BEFORE marginalized people are further pushed in the corner and possibly lash out harder
They got Richard Spencer to shut up, I'd say that's pretty good.
I'm starting to agree more and more with Stephen Fry's recent speech at Festival of Dangerous Ideas. I hope we're the ones who're wrong because we're old and out of touch, and this is some bright future of social justice. But I just can't see it.
Yes even if these "chants" were aimed at Tucker, it was still at their home where they all(?) sleep. "you're not safe, we know where you sleep" Wtf man.
Anyway, the point I was making that it's immoral and extreme to punish the children of people with a different political view. That's it, if you don't agree with that, well I don't argue with extremists.
Are you basing this purely on the anti-left noise online screaming about Antifa?
Anecdotal, but most people I know don't both sides this.
Id say implying violence to people posting here is derailing enough.
Im not above enjoying a little revenge now and then, but at a certain point it becomes counter productive and illogical.
Why do you think Soros chose this place?
Messages hidden within messages!
Total randomness, I tried to pick a town with a distinct American sound in a state rarely talked about and big enough to have some traffic in it
Read Nepenthe's comment above for one important example.
His base hates the left, yes. But this gave him something to dangle out there in front of the base to stoke their anger more. I think you're underestimating how much Republican politicians rely on playing the victim to their base. Even before Trump, we've had at least 30 years of "left-wing conspiracies" and a media "out to get" the Republican party.
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