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Klobrille

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Some tidbits on the importance of gaming at Microsoft moving forward.

I have heard from three different sources stating that Microsoft is pushing forward with new hardware but that the release timeline is still several years away.

The company is looking to hire a specialist with GDDR6 expertise and they are also exploring how to deeply integrate game streaming into their next console.

As for the timeline for the next console release, I've heard that within three years is a realistic possibility; the company is not currently in a rush to replace the Xbox One X as it has a significant horsepower advantage when compared to the current offering from Sony. And as you would expect, the console will be backward and forwards compatible, much like the Xbox One X; Paul is also hearing that Microsoft is building another iteration of the Xbox as well.

Even though Microsoft is pushing more towards the enterprise with its Windows and Office services, Xbox is one of the few brands inside of Microsoft that has managed to create a huge consumer-following and has a large upside ahead of it as gaming, and eSports, continue to grow. The company has also recently announced that it is expanding its E3 presence that further shows that Microsoft is not shying away from gaming.

While Nintendo has carved out a sizeable chunk of the casual gaming market with its Switch, the Xbox only has one primary competitor; Sony. Even though the PlayStation has the lead for this generation, Microsoft is making significant investments in hardware/content to close the gap with Sony and has the financial backing to go all-in on gaming to win the next generation

https://www.thurrott.com/xbox/157090/xbox-after-the-x
 
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I think its pretty arguable that - as the article claims - the Switch has carved out a "casual market" chunk and is in no way a competitor for the Xbox.


e: for clarity
 
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black070

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For example, imagine a game where the environment is dynamically updated from the cloud as you explore the map so that it becomes never-ending or have a city that is updated dynamically with local weather and traffic so that you can experience traffic jams in the virtual world as they occur in real life…exciting.

This doesn't sound exciting at all.
 

Cess007

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imagine a game where the environment is dynamically updated from the cloud as you explore the map so that it becomes never-ending or have a city that is updated dynamically with local weather and traffic so that you can experience traffic jams in the virtual world as they occur in real life…exciting.

Does this sounds exciting to anyone?

Edit. lol beaten
 

Sqrt

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For example, imagine a game where the environment is dynamically updated from the cloud as you explore the map so that it becomes never-ending or have a city that is updated dynamically with local weather and traffic so that you can experience traffic jams in the virtual world as they occur in real life…exciting.
Wasn't Crackdown 3 supposed to do something similar?
 

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I just want to see the results of this. I've been hearing this (or something similar) for years now, but whether out of design or incompetence, so far Microsoft doesn't have anything to show for it.
 

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If there's one thing I want to do after sitting through traffic every day to and from work, it's to come home and experience traffic in my video games.
 

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For example, imagine a game where the environment is dynamically updated from the cloud as you explore the map so that it becomes never-ending or have a city that is updated dynamically with local weather and traffic so that you can experience traffic jams in the virtual world as they occur in real life…exciting.

... exciting
 
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While Nintendo has carved out a sizeable chunk of the casual gaming market with its Switch, the Xbox only has one primary competitor; Sony.
I wonder if Nintendo, by simply existing, are considered "casual" regardless of the titles that are actually on their systems.

imagine a game where the environment is dynamically updated from the cloud as you explore the map so that it becomes never-ending or have a city that is updated dynamically with local weather and traffic so that you can experience traffic jams in the virtual world as they occur in real life…exciting.

And again with the cloud shit. They still haven't even released Crackdown 3, let alone announced a release date, and it was suppose to be their big display of cloud computing
 

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Syncing in-game weather with the real world is one of the dumbest and most pointless ideas that I can think of.
 

cakely

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Imagine the excitement of virtual traffic jams!

Hold on to your butts, everyone!

Welcome to the Power of the Cloud, 2018 edition.
 

Alek

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I think its pretty arguable that the Switch has carved out a "casual market" chunk and is in no way a competitor for the Xbox.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but how would you argue this? From what I see myself (purely anecdotal) there's a huge overlap between the two audiences. Switch seems much more focused on the core gaming audience than Nintendo's consoles other recent consoles have been, this is definitely reflected by the software too.
 

MMaRsu

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I just hope they start investing in some more exclusives :(. Oh well Xbox is def going in the right direction
 

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Hope they aren't planning buy Zenimax and/or my favorite independent studios.
 

Lunar15

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The way generations work, there should be no issue overtaking Sony if they say or do the right things. I don't think there's a lot of cross-generational loyalty for a majority of people who play games.
 

christocolus

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Hope this is true cos if it is then I'm so happy MS isn't rushing out the next Xbox. They need to take their time and create something substantially better than what we have now.
This is all very interesting though can't wait to see what the OS team and Panos hardware team come up with also they'll hopefully have a lot more projects in development than the rumoured Fable and PD also what's the part about a new Xbox in development??
 

Jawmuncher

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I don't understand why this thread is focused on the cloud comment when there's a lot of other points to discuss here.
We've known that MS isn't giving up on cloud stuff. Just they are reworking how to do it. My hope is that reworking means that
not all of their games become online only. We don't need that.
 
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Feels like the Xbox team was commanded to use Azure and now has to brainstorm ways to do so.

Uh, I don't know. Streaming games... and weather... traffic....
 

Vinc

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So basically he's talking of a future where bandwidth is fast enough to have the actual game assets and code delivered to the user in real time through their internet connection.

So basically, an idea for 2040. We'll see how it pans out.

As for the increased investment, I hope those go in significant part to actual game development. Slim pickings from their publishing arm these days.

The Xbox One is the most disappointing console I ever bought, personally. It'll take some convincing to get me to buy another one.
 

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MS has always done something wrong each gen which bit them on the foot and prevented them from taking the lion share. I hope this news pans out to keep Sony and Nintendo on their feet. Personally I am not happy how Sony has handled BC this gen, they need to take note from MS on this and hope they keep pushing it so it makes it harder to ignore for Sony.
 

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Why is it that every time people talk about the cloud's implications for gaming, it always ends up sounding shockingly...mundane? Like, the thing he cites in the article sounds like the kind of feature an engineer would love to brag about at a conference or a TED talk, but it wouldn't really present any actual value for consumers. An infinite game world with nothing interesting to do inside of it is hardly a selling point.

Either way, "Microsoft is really taking gaming seriously, you guys, just you wait" articles seem to be a dime a dozen these days.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but how would you argue this? From what I see myself (purely anecdotal) there's a huge overlap between the two audiences. Switch seems much more focused on the core gaming audience than Nintendo's consoles other recent consoles have been, this is definitely reflected by the software too.

I was gonna say...the Switch is selling as well as it does because it actually does have appeal for gamers rather than being sold exclusively to the casual audience.
 

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I have a gut feeling that "forward compatibility" means anything less than an Xbox One X will not be able to run "next gen" games once the Nextbox gets underway.
 

kiguel182

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I've been so close on biting on the X. But it's expensive and I can't justify it since I own a PS4.

And an S seems too late...

I'm really enjoying everything MS is doing with their platform but they still lack in some games. It's kinda frustrating.
 

cw_sasuke

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One of the big 3 console manufacturers is making mayor investment in regards to gaming content and hardware.


Erm.. Duh??
 

statham

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While you guys are focusing on weather, this is what makes me hot.

" Microsoft is making significant investments in hardware/content to close the gap with Sony and has the financial backing to go all-in on gaming to win the next generation"
 
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All the discussion in the article on the future of xbox and people are trolling over the authors opinion on what the cloud could potentially do smh
 
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I just hope they start investing in some more exclusives :(. Oh well Xbox is def going in the right direction
I don't think Microsoft cares about exclusives or sees them as their big draw. They're essentially going back to the strategy of the original Xbox and touting being the most powerful system available. It's just that in the past while that might have draw exclusives, and exclusives might have been a good way to show this off, nowadays devs are more multiplatform centric and their aim has instead been to show that they have the best looking/performing version of those games