Whatever that comes out from his mouth ain't worth the spit spent on it.
What conservative viewpoints is the industry not accepting that doesn't ultimately boil down to racism/sexism/bigotry?
Don’t take this as a personal attack but please educate yourself.
Yes, against Tim and EGS!
The “gotta get my free games though” statements are the gaming equivalent of hating Wal-Mart but also shopping at them because of Rollback prices.
Dean Takahashi - Venture Beat said:He also said that gaming social media could be a place where people can and should express their political views. That’s a reference to a controversy where Blizzard punished an esports player for saying Hong Kong should be free. Blizzard caught a lot of flak from players for enforcing China’s censorship on that player, whereas Blizzard argued it should keep the politics out of its esports forum. At that time, Sweeney said that Fortnite players should be free to say anything they want.
Dean Takahashi - Venture Beat said:
Dean Takahashi - Venture Beat said:
Aside from the last quote, which can come off as a bit rich with the EGS exclusivity contracts Epic is dealing in, I see nothing heinous in this.Dean Takahashi - Venture Beat said:Sweeney said, “And I think what we all really want and should agree is that we should accept equal access to all customers in the world, the billions of users who have participated, and give up our attempts to each trade or own a private walled garden and private monopolies, and we should really work together and recognize that you’re far better off if we connect our worlds and social graphs.”
I'm with you. This is a wonderful case of people cherry picking quotes to take out of context in order to manufacture outrage.
If you think creative can have enough clout to have a say in what a company should put out and how they should message the service then Sweeney has done his job is trying to mask the real intent behind his words.If he had it his way, he only wants to give the illusion that devs can engage in politics freely but not actually let them have a real say at all.
He says creative teams can make whatever they want but their marketing teams won't market their politics. So games with female protagonists and games like Wolfenstein how would they be marketed?
I imagine Sweeney the type of affluent white man who, if we're living in the 50s and 60s during the time of protests against and vilifying segregation, he'd be using his platform express his shock at people conducting or not, business with people/organization who publicly espouse support for segregation. Furthermore, he'd hail the movement against bigotry as "divisive" politics and claim that his business unites employees under a grander vision ensuring they overlook bigotry on an individual scale while acting as a launchpad of potentially all sorts of ideologies bereft of filter from third parties.
Tim from the future is contradicting Tim from the past? This has surely never happened before!
Has he said something that negated those statements since then?
That's a marketing team's dilemma. I imagine in a perfect world, that department wouldn't have a say in what the product they're responsible for pushing looks like. If that isn't the case with a big publisher, that's on them, and certainly in those companies, both the publisher and developer are worse for it.
i think some of those statements are problematic.Has he said something that negated those statements since then?
Like I said, he doesn't exactly live up to his own ethos, but I don't see how aspiring for games, especially ones that can be translated from one platform to another to be platform agnostic going forward is inherently bad. And no, you don't need to ask me how would you do X on platform Y, because I couldn't tell you.
There's nothing wrong with marketing including more variety for the sake of reaching a wider audience. This is something I'd expect out of some kid who's run out of ideas as to why having a PoC character in a game is a problem.
Is it really a dilemma?That's a marketing team's dilemma. I imagine in a perfect world, that department wouldn't have a say in what the product they're responsible for pushing looks like. If that isn't the case with a big publisher, that's on them, and certainly in those companies, both the publisher and developer are worse for it.
I mean, you can read do not need to as mustn't if you like.Is it really a dilemma?
Marketing can't push a political game so a political game either doesn't get made or gets stealth released.
IMO both of those options are not feasible for most games.specialy in the AAA industry.
I would appreciate how you justify that it's ok for a game to be silenced just because it's political
You do realize Sweeney has already contradicted himself consideirng he has advertised publically how Epic will support player’s free speech after Blizzard Hong Kong. How ‘neutral’ of himI mean, you can read do not need to as mustn't if you like.
I have zero industry experience, so I could not tell you which party is the first to push the brakes when it comes to creating or even designing a game that actually has something to say. Are you denied a Wolfenstein with a female protagonist before you even get to pitch it? Does the studio head say no to the idea when it's coming fresh from one of the producers? Does the publisher tell you "it's fine, but just make it a dude"? If anyone runs into those kinds of barriers in their workplace, I would think it to be a good time to stop there and then ask yourself if you're where you want to be. Or, at the very least, talk it out with the parties concerned. That is, if you truly and honestly care about what you're trying to communicate with your craft.
If you said “specific consumer rights that might apply to GAMES and not to OTHER PRODUCTS” I’d be with you.
I suppose for a company trying to sell as much anything they have it's highly convenient to keep a centrist face, even if the people at the helm have leanings toward one or the other side. Or that's what I got from it. And while that might be repulsive depending on your views, it's probably sound advice directed towards business people.You do realize Sweeney has already contradicted himself consideirng he has advertised publically how Epic will support player’s free speech after Blizzard Hong Kong. How ‘neutral’ of him
Or does it not count because it didn’t come from a marketing department PR person.
Sounds like excusing bullshit to me.I suppose for a company trying to sell as much anything they have it's highly convenient to keep a centrist face, even if the people at the helm have leanings toward one or the other side. Or that's what I got from it. And while that might be repulsive depending on your views, it's probably sound advice directed towards business people.
Do you have the full talk? Because I was operating under the assumption that the 'rights' being referred to were about this quote
And yes, I would assume he's talking to business people. It's an industry event.Tim Sweeney via Venture Beat said:
You'd be right if the issues within these two viewpoints were simply about taxes or laws on speed limits but they are not. Paying attention to the real world where generations of Hispanic children are currently suffering and dying in government camps, police are militarized and terrorizing minority communities, where scientific fact is suppressed and denied on a systemic scale, where bigoted white supremacist groups feel empowered enough to not just assemble but gain office and affect public policy for thousands on millions, where citizens are allowed to be poisoned by their governments and companies without recourse, and where there is a concerted effort to deny the right to equal justice within multiple levels of government reveals that things aren't as simple as "we should accept the two things". The two things are not the same. The two things fundamentally differ on matters of who is considered a citizen with civil rights, who is considered human and the future of humanity as a whole. To pretend otherwise like Sweeney is doing is to show off that he is disinterested in the realities of the shit he claims to care about.
I am still awaiting a worthwhile and exclusively "Conservative viewpoint" that is worth espousing in any medium today because we have seen plenty of examples of nothing but the effects of status-quo politics be part of hollywood and game development for majority of their existence.