I'm calling bullshit. There's no way that was his planned ending.
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Tite Kubo (creator of Bleach) dislikes Oda (creator of One Piece)
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Kubo claimed he ended the way he wanted and someone said he was tired can't remember
Wouldn't be surprised if he was pressure because the chapters preceding the finale felt like it could have gone longer
Kubo was also definitely disenchanted with the publisher by the time he was on that final arc. It started becoming very apparent that he was all "to hell with it" in that last arc.
He literally off-panelled the final fight if memory serves. If that's not a case of the editors shutting him down then what is?
Yeah the whole climax of Bleach wasn't very Kubo-like. Sure he left a lot of plot out in the open, but the fact that the final battle with Ywach wasn't like five volumes long tells me he didn't get what he wanted. The final chapter might've been the same, but hte climax of the arc was clearly rushed.
kubo spent an insane amount of chapters on that stupid thor wannabe character that just wouldn't die. that tells you that he wasn't planning on ending it so soon. he was absolutely gonna drag the arc out much more and jump probably knew this and just told him to end it. no way he had that ending planned out.
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No it's not. It's a shit video that does not state anything meaningful but bias shit opinion. There are many misgivings and inaccuracies in that video. It's trash.
Weren't you already warned for posting like this? It's a good, well made video that nails Bleach's issue, unless you're delusional. The only bias is you. You're not even providing arguments aside from aggressive hot takes.
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https://www.resetera.com/posts/1008743/
lame OP fanbase for making up shit bigger, when the poster clearly didn't read the OP.
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Wanted this at first, but then I remembered that I'd have to watch Captain Commander take the biggest L is his Shinigami career. No, thanks. Still better than Snore Piece, though.
lmao Bleach definitely got canceled/rushed. No one plans a final fight that shitty and short. He probably meant that he planned the final chapter with the pairings and stuff. This is not a man known for planning a single thing story related. He admitted himself to even forgetting stuff he wrote.
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Yes i have read those and they are good to great. If nothing else these arcs had plenty of character and story development. Did you read Skypia, Thriller bark, Fishmen island (worse arc in manga history, my god that was painful to read), Punk Hazard, Dressrosa? Zou was a great arc because of exposition, and story development (about damn time). WCI arc is all over the place it has good moment, but it´s very uneven and if i think the arc will end the way i think it will be (Sanji saving the day with a cake) the whole arc will be garbage.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/one-piece-manga-ot-this-is-our-era.547/ Oh hey, nevermind then. I swear it´s like some of you here does not know of irony, introspection or self reflection in any way shape or form. You accuse him of something yet you are on the forefront of the offensive in this thread that is made by you. Also if you actually read the translations of the interview you would know that thread is extremely bias on your behalf, and you did not bother with the translation and just made the thread using a one piece fanboy site LMAO.
Dissing on Skypiea will just out you as the biggset fool
Considering you just shat on Dressrosa I laughed IRL at this
WCI is plenty fine, and thinking it will be garbage because of baking a cake is so wrong I don't even know where to begin. It's almost like you only care about fight sequences.
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Still seems like Beam is still heated and didn't take mods advice and still hasen't read the OP cause it goes beyond the interview with someone whos worked with Oda and at Shueisha who very trust worthy(I even stated it could be in a joking manner the interview), seems like your the only one with a bias and confrontational here where I haven't been in here.
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Explain why if you don't mind. Ranting about something like this just makes you look like the fool even if you actually do have a point. I have only just started reading One Piece and have not read any of Bleach so have no horse in this race, however, you are not helping your cause by coming off like an enraged fanboy.
This video is largely inaccurate as it bases much of it on Editor rankings. Oda has already come out to say that popularity is not what defines the ranking but it ultimately what the editor wants. Its why many new series are often placed high to advertise them.
A better method would be looking at sales. Also the video hugely undermines Bleach's popularity overseas.
Same. Naruto was also a whole lot better when it used to be called "Hunter X Hunter" :')
The rankings are based on what the audience enjoys the most, not what the editors are picking and choosing. WSJ readers send in their favs to Sheushia on a weekly basis and that's where we get the rankings from. The only exception is the cover pages which yeah tend to be used to advertise new series.
Secondly the video doesn't undermine the popularity of Bleach at all. Bleach is only more popular than One Piece in America. In terms of sales in European countries, it's the reverse.
It was cool when it was "cool" YYH then changed into it's own thing while Soul society was great The rest eh
Then came back with Fullbringer which you can tell was chapter black and wasn't great
Bleach popularity over seasons don't mean that much overall to tell the truth .
Yeah it more popular in USA but it's not like that really help like with Naruto or DB when it came to games sales etc etc etc .
Also manga sales so small out side Japan that it's drop in bucket .
France has one of the biggest manga market out side Japan and OP sold 1.3 million total last year making it best selling series with 3 vols .
That number is really small and bleach was 9th best selling with 6 vols so just think about how small that number would be per vol .
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I actually thought the Fullbringer arc was great until Soul Society appeared to save the day
it's pretty much established fact, at least in the court of popular opinion
bleach is regarded as garbage almost universally. for some reason, soul society often gets a pass, but it shouldn't
Facebook had the worst power ever. I mean, my god. That power existed solely to troll the readers and Ichigo.
He was no Aizen but I found him entertaining enough
what the hell was Kubo going for with the Fullbringers, captains just appeared and swept it all away like it was an anime filler arc
I feel like that's partly due to fan reactions
the ending of yyh, despite being rushed (mostly bc togashi started developing work-related health problems around this time), was infinitely better than the ending of bleach
Except that there is no such thing as a fact of popular opinion. Bleach is well regarded almost everywhere, and soul society arc is better than anything in one piece.
I love bleach for those messes that just no other cleaner will be able to handle.
Eh not really seems like a consensus is that it wasn't as great as it was after soul society arc and the final arc was divisive to say the least
Maybe I go in specific circles
I've never seen or read OP, was a MASSIVE fan of Bleach but Bleach is in no way shape or form regarded well anymore. It's the poster child for something great going to total shit.
I liked YYH's slice of life ending and everything was resolved. The characters got closure and we didn't get an awful forced romance like Ichigo and Orihime.
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