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Todd Howard: Fallout 76 did 'very, very well' despite a lot of development difficulties; player base in the millions

vestan

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So I didn't see a thread on this, but Todd Howard came out on stage at Bethesda Game Days last week to address Fallout 76. He mentioned that the game has a large player base consisting of millions of players and that they're committed to supporting Fallout 76 for the years to come.
We have a huge, millions of players, and a large player base in this game; we are receiving tons of feedback. We aim to build a kind of Fallout platform. We have tons of ideas, it's been a crazy journey so far, and we are excited, there's a ton of cool content on the way. It's been an incredible experience. We will do anything we can to reward that, this year, next year and in the coming years we have big things planned.
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He also reassured people that they (Bethesda Game Studios) will continue to make more traditional games.
We continue to do more traditional things, or what I would call them, Bethesda games
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Interestingly enough, Howard went on to talk about the game's development, citing Fallout 76 as a very new thing for the studio due to its multiplayer nature and that despite the rocky development, the game has been successful.
For us, Fallout 76 is a very, very new thing for our studio, We knew we would have a lot of stumbling blocks in the game and had some, some of them a lot more difficult than we anticipated. This is a very different and new project for us. We've built up the studios, we're now four different studios in North America, in Rockville, Austin, Dallas, and Dallas. Montreal and this was a game that demanded so much for the people of these four studios to work on the game. We knew the launch was going to be just the beginning. We're excited that the game did very, very well.
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Glad the game seems to be doing well, it's in a way better spot now and I've been having fun playing it these past few days. Wild Appalachia has been great but I think general consensus on the game will turn around once Wastelanders drops later this year.
 
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Rean

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being glad that this unacceptable product did "well" is pretty much anti-consumer in my eyes
 
Teepo671

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I enjoyed the game and while I stopped playing I'll come back to it in time but didn't the game go on sale like the same month it released?
Glad to hear it's doing well though. It did have a lot of problems but I still enjoyed my time in Appalachia. Looking forward to seeing how different the game is when I eventually start playing it again.
 
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"Yes, the Elder Scrolls 6 did unintentionally reformat many customers' hard drives, and it did through an unknown bug forward said customers' porn histories to their parents, but we could have sold an empty box that said "more Skyrim" to you at this point, so can you really blame us?"
 
El-Suave

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No wonder your game does well when they're giving it away with the purchase of a PS4 controller like the biggest retailer did in Germany. Those channels must have been flooded.
 
scabobbs

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I simply don't believe they have even half that many people actively playing it. There is NOBODY streaming this game on Twitch, and I never see people discussing it on Reddit, here or elsewhere. If people were playing your game we'd know it. I don't buy it Todd.
 
regenhuber

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Howard's claims are probably true.
Fallout is such a gigantic brand that you likely had millions of pre orders.
Then you had people who picked 76 up on sale.
On top of that there's a large consumer base that doesn't check meta critic and was oblivious to the embarrassing state of the game.

Not surprising to me at all.
I also believe that Anthem will come out on top financially (thanks to EA marketing).
 
LuisGarcia

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Don't own the game and it doesn't look like like my thing but I swear some of youguys just sit around waiting for a topic to pop up so you can come in with your sly remarks.

Along with the long list of other thing Resetera doesn't like so just stink up every topic letting the world know how much they don't like thing. It's boring.
 
regenhuber

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scabobbs said:
I simply don't believe they have even half that many people actively playing it. There is NOBODY streaming this game on Twitch, and I never see people discussing it on Reddit, here or elsewhere. If people were playing your game we'd know it. I don't buy it Todd.
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We are late in the generation. Consoles are cheap by now and have made their way into the casual households.
F76 isn't being played by sophisticated gamers. It's played by the average FIFA/CoD player who was in the mood for a new game and went "Oh, a Fallout game for 19.99€?! ".
 
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regenhuber said:
We are late in the generation. Consoles are cheap by now and have made their way into the casual households.
F76 isn't being played by sophisticated gamers. It's played by the average FIFA/CoD player who was in the mood for a new game and went "Oh, a Fallout game for 19.99€?! ".
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A sophisticated gamer is, of course, one who uses chop sticks to enjoy their doritos and cheetos.
 
spineduke

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You know this will only encourage them further to not worry about polishing their products and ensure they're working day one. Very consumer friendly.

They learned nothing from this mess.
 
DarKaoZ

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Am I the only one that thinks, if this is true... That they do not deserve this at all?
 

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regenhuber said:
We are late in the generation. Consoles are cheap by now and have made their way into the casual households.
F76 isn't being played by sophisticated gamers. It's played by the average FIFA/CoD player who was in the mood for a new game and went "Oh, a Fallout game for 19.99€?! ".
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this is a joke post, isn't it? because god damn it reminds me of the "real gamer" jpg doing its rounds on twitter.
 
Bricktop

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God damn the hot takes in this thread. First post drops a "anti-consumer" whine, then we get the hilarious "sophisticated gamer" nonsense and then cap it off with "I don't believe you, you're lying" garbage.

Keeping winning ERA.
 
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Rean said:
being glad that this unacceptable product did "well" is pretty much anti-consumer in my eyes
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NoblesseOblige said:
How is enjoying a game 'anti-consumer'? This phrase seems to mean nothing on this forum anymore (maybe it never really did).
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Pretty sure Rean is referring to Howard and not the OP.

And I gotta agree. It's entirely anti-consumer to push out an undercooked product like Fallout 76 and then boast it's success in spite of a very transparent situation where a decent portion of Bethesda's core audience have been burned bad.

In other words:
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"We scammed million's of our fan base and it went very very well"
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AstronaughtE

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I got a copy with my xbox one x, but I haven't redeemed it yet. I'll probably check it ASPIT, not like I'm gonna get rich selling the code.

TemplaerDude said:
A sophisticated gamer is, of course, one who uses chop sticks to enjoy their doritos and cheetos.
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Said chop sticks are to be made of pearl or animal bone as to not impart undesirable tastes.
 
TemplaerDude

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regenhuber said:
LOL
Ok let's try "informed consumer" then.

Just trying to point out that there's a large number of consumers that doesn't read reviews/watch streams.
To them 76 is just a new Fallout game that's cheap.
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Cheap? I'm still afraid of buying any kind of electronics product for fear that they've strapped a copy of Fallout 76 to it.
 
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Whaaaaaat? A gigantic marketing budget can overturn literally all negative press? Who knew???

Seriously though. This is why I find it silly when people wonder that games like Days' Gone could fail. Nah mate, it could be hot garbage or amazing, but the deciding factor is the huge marketing which it obviously has.
 
InquisitorAles

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I know many people are still doubting that, but Fallout 76 indeed sold and (keep selling) really well, even on PC. Not at a full price, of course, the game has been on permanent -50% sale everywhere with even deeper discounts and deals in some places, but at this price point, they are moving a fairly big amount of copies. Personally, it's puzzling me as well on who and why keep buying this game, but this time Todd is not lying.
 
SuperBanana

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Why is it in the bargain bin of every store I go to then? I feel like it sold a couple million but WAY under FO3, Vegas, and FO4.
 
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Probably thinking how to turn the next TES into another shallow Destiny clone, with no real quests and NPCs.

Revolsin said:
Whaaaaaat? A gigantic marketing budget can overturn literally all negative press? Who knew???

Seriously though. This is why I find it silly when people wonder that games like Days' Gone could fail. Nah mate, it could be hot garbage or amazing, but the deciding factor is the huge marketing which it obviously has.
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Marketing isn't a magic trick that turns poo into gold. It's probably one of the fastest games to drop from $60-70 to $20.

regenhuber said:
LOL
Ok let's try "informed consumer" then.

Just trying to point out that there's a large number of consumers that doesn't read reviews/watch streams.
To them 76 is just a new Fallout game that's cheap.
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Lol, the casual gamer ignored F76, thats why it bombed so hard so fast. A few people might be curious why the game is so cheap, but I doubt they stay around for too long when they discover what the game really is.
 
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Yeah I don't trust a single word coming out of Bethesda's mouth. The recent videos of them straight up lying about the ingame store's nature just confirms that. It's a hard wait long before buy approach with these guys from now on.
 
TemplaerDude

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regenhuber said:
Mine came bundled with a snickers bar.

For real, at least two or three co workers asked me if they should get F76 bc they know the brand and assumed it's good.
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My girlfriend keeps trying to get me to buy some preposterous $25 coaster from some hoity toity home decor store that also sells something they call "boho chic" fashion. It's made of some kind of stone, it'd probably crack my glass desk. It's extremely over priced.

So honestly, Fallout 76 at $19 is a fantastic value for a coaster and I hope you advised them as such.
 
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Todd Howard was one of my heroes, I was at this event and approached him to sign my copy of FO76 CE and he totally brushed me off.

I put 25 hours into this game to try to find something that wouldn't break and I eventually just gave up.

What a bummer how they are acting. The game had no business being on store shelves.
 
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LuisGarcia said:
Don't own the game and it doesn't look like like my thing but I swear some of youguys just sit around waiting for a topic to pop up so you can come in with your sly remarks.

Along with the long list of other thing Resetera doesn't like so just stink up every topic letting the world know how much they don't like thing. It's boring.
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*It's not enough that everyone knows I don't like the game. You're not allowed to like it either because they disrespect us gamerz*
 
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Imagine calling a bad movie like Justice League or something "anti-consumer" on a film enthusiast forum. You'd be laughed out of the room.
 
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