TokuERA 2020 |OT| #1 OT in Resetera. All other OTs are... 2nd best

Slatsunus

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The number one answer is Beast and it's not even close.


(Don't start, Kagami stans)
I don't think Kagami is the most beloved character from Kabuto, but he is my favorite.

Because Kabuto starts out all dark, scary and distopian, but slowly reveals that actually, its the goofiest shit ever and every character in it is an insane cartoon person.

Besides Kagami, he starts out the normal dude surrounded by the crazy talented and ends the show a normal dude surrounded by the insane. Its a fun progression.
 

DragonSJG

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Beast was awful. One of the worst secondary riders along with Specter and Kaixa. He was annoying and useless for the plot.He was only there just to sell toys.
 

DragonSJG

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All the justified love for Fuwa and frustation with Aruto I have seen across the internet has got me thinking.

What are the rider shows you can think of where the secondary Rider ends up being the best written/most popular one?

Off the top of my head I think Chase is easily the best character/rider in Drive even though I love the whole cast.

Heart would be number 1 if you count redeemed villians.
Shinnosuke was too bland and not very relevant to the plot as a whole tbf.
 

Sandfox

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Just finished watching the final Zi-O live show and that would've been an amazing movie:

-Tsukuyomi get her own Red Woz that calls her "Queen"


-Zi-O Woz Armor


-The First, The Next, and Amazons show up


-Sougo teams up with his future self to defeat Another Oma Zi-O
 

Voror

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Question given the secondary rider discussion, but who is the best villain in a Rider series? Evolt was the first that came to mind as I found him entertaining almost the entire time, but that may be due to him being relatively recent.

I think we can all agree Gai sucks for Zero One. Jury is still out but Horobi and Jin have been pretty alright though we've still got plenty to go and I could see Jin turning.

Just finished watching the final Zi-O live show and that would've been an amazing movie:
Is this all canon or however that works with these? That said, the idea of their being a Woz for Tsukuyomi makes sense.

Is there a good shot of Another Oma ZI-O?
 

Sandfox

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Question given the secondary rider discussion, but who is the best villain in a Rider series? Evolt was the first that came to mind as I found him entertaining almost the entire time, but that may be due to him being relatively recent.

I think we can all agree Gai sucks for Zero One. Jury is still out but Horobi and Jin have been pretty alright though we've still got plenty to go and I could see Jin turning.



Is this all canon or however that works with these? That said, the idea of their being a Woz for Tsukuyomi makes sense.

Is there a good shot of Another Oma ZI-O?
These typically aren't canon



In terms of Villians I would say Drive had the best of the series I've seen. The other ones have had issues at some point in their series.
 

Voror

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These typically aren't canon



In terms of Villians I would say Drive had the best of the series I've seen. The other ones have had issues at some point in their series.
Ah gotcha. Still, they are good concepts and I'm actually surprised this wasn't used for a movie or arc of some kind. It's like a combo of Oma Form and Oma ZI-O, nice. I should look over all the Another Rider designs again.

Drive's were good, I agree.
 

DragonSJG

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Saw it, Thouser is so insufferable. Can't wait for the massive L he's going to take.
So why does he let Metsuboujinrai go around again.
Rampage was awesome though
 

Slatsunus

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Nov 2, 2017
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Question given the secondary rider discussion, but who is the best villain in a Rider series? Evolt was the first that came to mind as I found him entertaining almost the entire time, but that may be due to him being relatively recent.

I think we can all agree Gai sucks for Zero One. Jury is still out but Horobi and Jin have been pretty alright though we've still got plenty to go and I could see Jin turning.



Is this all canon or however that works with these? That said, the idea of their being a Woz for Tsukuyomi makes sense.

Is there a good shot of Another Oma ZI-O?
This question is a bit hard for me because the best KR villains usually receive some type of redemption. Like Heart/Medic/Brain all basically end up redeemed. And Heart himself ends up a straight hero after his revival.

Baron is treated sympathetically even as he becomes the big bad and is always a good guy in his post death appearances.

Fuck, even Evolt was allowed to team up with Ryuga and then leave Earth alive in that god awful V Cinema.

I think Daguva from Kuuga is perfect because he's so thematically perfect for the show, his incredibly small amount of screen time is all used well to make him terrifying, and the finale battle between him and Kuuga is the best KR has ever been. But his lack of screen time might make people argue he wasnt deep enough.

But Ouja from Ryuki is probably the actual best. Always immensely evil, always a threat, always entertaining. Even after being brought back half a dozen times.
 

Wanderer5

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GOD DAMN AT RAMPAGE! One hell of a form from this week's Zero One episode.

Well glad that this Competition arc is finally over. Hope this coming arc is better.
 

Birdie

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Oct 26, 2017
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I remember thinking at first Gai was gonna be like...Rogue.

Now I want the worst for him. Like Centipede Orohenoch level where he's turned into a punk and comic relief but as his expense where it doesn't make him endearing.
 

Sandfox

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Gai is worse Cronus because Cronus at least had an explanation for how he got away with everything and the characters weren't dumbed down for him.
 

Yukari

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Finish fourth watching of Lupiranger vs. Patranger.

- Zamigo? Who?
- Kogure? Nothing About Him.

Also, Lupin Collection Plot will solve on 10 years after?
 

Vareon

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Rio Komiya (Kiramaired) has tested positive for Coronavirus and has taken a break from shooting.


Shit sucks, I hope he gets well soon :/
 

Birdie

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Rio Komiya (Kiramaired) has tested positive for Coronavirus and has taken a break from shooting.


Shit sucks, I hope he gets well soon :/
Whoa! Shit...

So, yeah, whatever plans Kiramager had they went out the window.
 

Birdie

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Oct 26, 2017
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Honey when I was watching Zero One this week I was like "you're too close!"

Though I guess this was...January then?
 
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Finished OOO

Pretty great series. Everybody was just so... hammy in it, it's hard not to love it. Great characters, the plot is nice, villains are a mixed bag. Date is one of my favorite secondaries, even if the series didn't do him justice at all. Gotou I didn't like at the start, but he grew on me a lot after his whole training arc. Hina is great, and Ankh is really good, even if I don't love him as much as other people.

But the real star here was Armbaby. That doll is the best prop Toei ever did.

In the end, it's up there with W and Fourze for me. Not perfect, but really good.
 

Birdie

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I'm not sure.

Not Toei but apparently the Pokemon anime has ran into episodes taking longer to record because of this...guess they don't want everyone in the same booth?
 

Slayven

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OG Kamen Rider is rough..... but I like the monsters having personalities and generally being arrogant dicks. not to mention more people dided than actually got saved
 

NeonZ

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Does that include Toei Animation?
Nah, Toei Animation is a separate building. Anyway, they closed it for a disinfection and apparently it's already over, but they still need the authorization of health officials to reopen.

OG Kamen Rider is rough..... but I like the monsters having personalities and generally being arrogant dicks. not to mention more people dided than actually got saved
The budget of the production actually increases a lot during the first half's run if you watch through it all.