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Tom Warren: “hardly anyone has them” (Scarlett dev kits) “They’re no where near final”
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Then u r new here . No one was allowed to say ps5 is anywhere close to power of anaconda in this very site until e3 when Reiner and few others messed up all we had heard till that date .
I was agreeing with you. I just meant that even if they weren't related, Microsoft already made clear that the console experience was the premium experience out of the two - due to limitations behind streaming.
Microsoft is not late, it is in the right times, rather Sony is ahead, perhaps because its console was planned for 2019.
Well, there it is. I'm assuming this means for the early beginning portion of the next generation, most of the games will be more so optimized for PS5 over the next Xbox because of the scheduling being behind and what not.
I said historically. Sony has been making hardware for over 70 years, in an extremely wide range of products, they invented multiple formats and new genre of products.
Microsoft has been making hardware for less than 10 years if you exclude Xbox (Surface is < 7 years old).
The power narrative took over once they stopped bundling Kinect. There was a slew of stories about resolution differences at the release of every major multiplat during 2014-15.
Microsoft posted senior job positions for their next-gen console in late November last year, including qualified candidates to work on their storage solution, and their chief SoC architect for Project Scorpio and Project Scarlett left Xbox and joined Intel earlier in 2019.
Intel hires away chief architect for Xbox One, Scorpio, and Scarlett John Sell
I don't feel this is some deliberate strategy to fool the competition. Sometimes affairs don't go according to plan.
You might be right but we can already make a decent/good assumption that more developers have the PS5 Devkits than Scarlett Dev Kits. So, I'm just wondering if this might be the case in the super early portion of launch games whether there's only one or two multiplatform games at launch lol
Hmm, are you sure it's not just because 10,000 Microsoft engineers are trying to figure out how to put a gpu in a power brick?
Wait the PS5 has a better processor than Scarlett? Is this 100% confirmed?
No. We don't have specs for either console, we just know the tech they're using (zen2,Navi, SSD, etc).
Secret sauce... Okay I got it. I'm sorry but sony's been doing the same. You have no tangible proof.
Nothing is confirmed till they announce it but according to some devs ps5 is slightly ahead of Scarlett at the moment
MS keeping their cards close to their chest. This is exciting.
Power and price went hand in hand. It was public knowledge that you were paying more money for a weaker system.
Apparently, Spencer confirmed at X019 that representative devkits were just being shipped.
How does that jive with the myriad of 'insiders' popping up to make claims about the relative power difference as early as four or five months ago? Claims that have been cited repeatedly as gospel?
At least for the heavy hitters, I wouldn't necessarily assume this.
The likes of Warner Bros, Ubisoft, Activision, Namco, Square, EA et al will most certainly get their kits in time.
There's nothing weird about it. There are 3rd party devs with devkits for both consoles, sony just handed more out.
I agree. if they both have awesome comparable specs, everyone wins?
That "surprising sony" comment makes no sense. If true (which I doubt) they're just going to force developers to use PS5 as the main console and port over to scarlett, just like with PS4.
I doubt MS thinks (or much cares) that they are gonna 'surprise Sony'..lol..but I bet their hardware isn't final yet and no that's not a bad thing. I'm not sure why everyone thinks final hardware must be decided on already for a console launching a year from now.
IIRC from some devs on here (and GAF) in previous threads said ~6-8 months lead time was the rough 'cutoff' for final spec depending on how many systems they really want for launch day.
Also with the new systems resembling PC architecture now more than ever and scalability being a thing it makes perfect sense that developers shouldnt have much trouble using the systems' estimated spec on a PC early on and 'last minute' changes/upgrades can be made to the hardware..that seems pretty reasonable.
IIRC from some devs on here (and GAF) in previous threads said ~6-8 months lead time was the rough 'cutoff' for final spec depending on how many systems they really want for launch day.
Also with the new systems resembling PC architecture now more than ever and scalability being a thing it makes perfect sense that developers shouldnt have much trouble using the systems' estimated spec on a PC early on and 'last minute' changes/upgrades can be made to the hardware..that seems pretty reasonable.
Keeping their cards close to their chest is exciting. It'll make the reveal that much more interesting.
U really believe Ubisoft doesn't have at the minimum target spec of Scarlett for the new assassin creed they r launching November 2020 ? Come on man.They might not have the final dev kits but they sure as hell have the target specs and some form of dev kits.
The title says "hardly anyone has it" so i think its mainy first party devs? And Jason says third party devs are frustrated with "lack of info"
So not sure how devs can say accurate what is more powerful. Or they do have all info on paper. No idea.
Think Jason is implying they have no cards to show because they have no cards.
i'm sorry but I disagree. I don't see how "Microsoft keeps their cards close to their chest" when in the last few recent years, their E3 Conference has been leaked one to three days prior to their conference. On top of this, how is being behind schedule exciting lol, I don't understand? If anyone keeps their cards close to their chest it's Playstation, a majority of these years we barely know anything for the E3 Conferences and State of Plays etc. Sure, IX never gets leaked but most of IX is just a huge Gamepass advertisement. Along with that, Nintendo's stuff gets leaked too lol. Some insiders ruin these directs or E3s for Nintendo by leaking things prior to them, so that happens to Nintendo just like it happens to Microsoft. In the same fashion, we see it with Ubisoft and their AC leaks prior to announcements from Merch getting leaked etc (even though at this rate, it feels like they do it on purpose lmao.) So, really, if anyone keeps their cards close to their chest.. it's Playstation?
I'm not even trying to console war or anything, I'm just trying to make the case that keeping cards close to their chest would imply barely anything ever gets leaked from that side of the party. We've seen it happen to so many people, not saying Playstation has never dealt with leaks before (never forget the best E3 ever), but it happens more so to other companies in the Gaming Industry than them from what I've seen lol.
Final dev kits doesn't mean final target specs . Final Target specs are set by now as the contract with amd is finalized for both Sony and Ms by now
The hardware is pretty much final. APU silicon is set in stone at this point. You are not that flexible on things to change.
People think amd is standing on the side for Sony and ms to change their mind and their order till one month from the launch so they can start their apu creation and testing before mass production starts within a week