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Tom Warren: “hardly anyone has them” (Scarlett dev kits) “They’re no where near final”
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I would think that getting these out less than a year before launch isn't a good idea right? Or am I crazy about that?
Hmmmm, this could go either way. I do like that they are trying to build the best box that they can, but don't let it be at the cost of giving one of the best game companies an edge in potentially launching behind them. That's insane to think about.
I mean, I know Xboxs are glorified PCs now, but having a near final box still cuts out a lot of uncertainty due to variability. the OS is windows-based but not straight up windows after all
I mean they kinda are now. Its not like a special Cell processor or weird ESRAM etc.
I don't know about that, ms is now publishing more games on pc, I could see the OS be near-identical this time around
That's true, it's mostly "off the shelf" parts so it's not that dire.
"surprise Sony"... seriously?
Does it really work like that? I'd think that the earlier a dev has a dev kit for new hardware in their hands, the better chance at good, high-quality games on launch
you are going to "hide" the dev kit from devs just so Sony doesn't learn about its innards??
dunno,
Does it really work like that? I'd think that the earlier a dev has a dev kit for new hardware in their hands, the better chance at good, high-quality games on launch
you are going to "hide" the dev kit from devs just so Sony doesn't learn about its innards??
dunno,
So isn't this concerning a year out from launch? Mind you yeah PC to Xbox transitions are easier than PC to PS but wtf?
I mean yeah, I don't know who's sitting around thinking both sides of these companies are sitting there completely blind about what's going on each other's end. They both have to know something or at least have an idea as to how powerful each other's consoles are lol
I thought these dev kits were virtually identical with Sony having a better processor or something? Was that just a rumor I read or am I off the rocker?
Aren't they both buying from AMD? If so then they've both got a potential list of sources all the way from their APU vendor right through to developers and industry analysts via which this "surprise" information could leak. Aside from adding extra RAM like Sony did previously I doubt there's much either party could surprise the other with, especially at the $400-500 range they'll be aiming for.
Yeah, I don't buy this one either lol. I really don't think Microsoft is sitting there right now thinking "Okay so if Playstation has a meeting and they announce their specs we can go with build B instead of A!" like what? There's way too many legal things like patents and other documents that probably need to be finalized a year or two prior to finalizing the build before them announcing it and mass producing it. Or, I could simply just not know shit (which in case correct me) but that's what I would assume happens towards consoles being finalized before mass production lol
You should read the old next gen speculation threads OT 04/05 if I remember rightly. They were chock full of people (some already in this thread claiming that it is not possible) claiming that sony were enganged in 4D chess with microsoft in regards to power etc..
I tend to agree with you in all honesty
"Microsoft wants to surprise Sony this time"
That... this entire supposed timeframe is not how software engineering, OS engineering, or APU engineering works.
And more importantly, MS is simply no longer in the "console sales marketshare matters" business. Their entire business model does not surround needing a marketshare advantage. And even if it were, MS' biggest issues have never been power - they've had the more powerful hardware on shelves for 2 years now and it hasn't made a difference in their sales trajectory.
Projecting fanboy console wars onto how businesses operate leads to leaps in logic that makes guys like this entirely dismiss-able.
That... this entire supposed timeframe is not how software engineering, OS engineering, or APU engineering works.
And more importantly, MS is simply no longer in the "console sales marketshare matters" business. Their entire business model does not surround needing a marketshare advantage. And even if it were, MS' biggest issues have never been power - they've had the more powerful hardware on shelves for 2 years now and it hasn't made a difference in their sales trajectory.
Projecting fanboy console wars onto how businesses operate leads to leaps in logic that makes guys like this entirely dismiss-able.
Rumor was PS5's devkit had a better SDK that allowed devs to use it more efficiently/squeeze out more power. Idk if they'll be updating devkits until later on.
MS' sdk should get updated too.
Swap and around the companies, post that in the next gen speculation thread, and it would sound perfectly plausible, already happening even.
Yeah that's a bit cringe. Shits funny though. Still on team that's a bad look if hardly anyone has dev kits.
I can't really see what suprises ms can pull out o their hat this late. We already know the apu, that it's using gddr6 ram and a ssd.
In contrast we know from sony which cpu the apu is based on and that the ssd is not a normal ssd. We know less about the ps5 than scarlet.
In contrast we know from sony which cpu the apu is based on and that the ssd is not a normal ssd. We know less about the ps5 than scarlet.
surprise surprise, Halo Infinite and Gears 6 will be 60fps and native 4k, the secret's out.
Well as long as they don't have any proprietary secret sauce tech it wouldn't be much of a problem. Especially if the components are going to get a spec bump, worst case scenario is that the devs wont utilize the hardware to it's fullest potential.
It's almost for certain these devkits don't feature the final APU. MS might not even have a bootable chip yet (based on the Scorpio timeline).
Well last time sony did exactly that.
And this time around we know more about scarlet than the ps5. MS can't one up sony with a few more mhz or more ram. That's not enough.
That is not what i am saying.
MS must have internally settled on the design by at the worst case early this year (more likely last year), because they also need to perform many tests to measure performance, issues etc. And also leave enough time to manufacture enough consoles by late 2020
Hey! Cool if true. We'll see. Being an unbiased system warrior is the best. I feel sorry for people who pledge allegiance to one company.
