Are you always that defensive about your favorite product, holy shit.
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Tom Warren: “hardly anyone has them” (Scarlett dev kits) “They’re no where near final”
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Are you always that defensive about your favorite product, holy shit.
Some historical context.
Dev kits are out there for both consoles. I obviously have no idea how widespread both are.
At the moment devs can create games on them, but they can't be finalised.
Final dev kits won't ship till mid next year (approx), that allow them to finalise games.
Dev kits are out there for both consoles. I obviously have no idea how widespread both are.
At the moment devs can create games on them, but they can't be finalised.
Final dev kits won't ship till mid next year (approx), that allow them to finalise games.
We know final silicon is pretty much set in stone. It has to be if they want to start production in time. We know final spec targets have been known for quite some time. What I don't know is why Tom would mention "final dev kits" when we know those won't be out til a couple months before consoles release.
Thanks never seen those contracts before, those are very interesting.
This is what confuses me about his statement..'surprising Sony' strongly implies the console spec isn't finalized..not just the dev kits..most people (I think) understand dev kits aren't final a year from release.
Funny, I remember people saying I had no proof when the Durango docs leaked and I confirmed them, or when we broke the news that the Xbox One would focus on TV. No proof. https://www.theverge.com/2012/6/16/3090944/microsoft-xbox-720-kinect-2-kinect-glasses-doc-leak-rumor
Nothing in your tweet is news, we know MS is behind in getting de kits out and we know for target specs, Sony is also ahead.
Keeping close to the chest to surprise Sony as you said has already been challenged by other insiders.
Thanks for input .May I ask then can u say vaguely what your source is for MS holding back to surprise Sony? We have many insiders in this very thread saying all of that is cause MS is a bit behind schedule with dev kits and nothing to do with surprising Sony.
The key take-away here is not that MS is really late. But Sony is super early.
Having a devkit that's not just a PC tower a year and half before launch is pretty amazing.
Having a devkit that's not just a PC tower a year and half before launch is pretty amazing.
He says he has proof but provides none. Many other insiders have already stated that he is wrong.
Do you know who manufactures the apu in the dev kit? Sony Or amd?if amd then why couldn't they provide one to MS? Thanks in advance.
Not really sure what past E3 conferences have to do with anything.... I'm talking specifically about Scarlett.
This thread is based off a tweet that has no substance. We've been discussing Next-gen is its own dedicated thread, and we've had input from many insiders. This guy gets his own thread for no new information. Other members of Era who are also journalists and insiders have challenged the content of this tweet.
You said they kept their cards close to their chest and I was trying to give you several examples as to how I feel that is wrong lol, so I gave you examples of things leaking out and that showing that the cards previously haven't been as close to their chest as you think they are so why would it be any different now you know? I was just trying to give you a different perspective / opinion. on the whole "keeping their cards close to their chest" thing.
I'm not attacking your past record. I just don't believe what you were told.
TMSC.
If Sony designed and order their APU before MS they'll get it before MS.
My guess is that Sony had 6 month to a year head start.
AMD isn't going to provide Sony's APU to MS. Nor do that have any high performance APUs for PC that they can use.
I'm not angry, just making statements.
Not according to Reiner, who has yet to be debunked since E3. Like I've said old news.
It wouldn't surprise me if new software was pretty minimal for the Scarlett launch, they're probably banking on getting those day one sales for a concurrent Infinite release plus whatever is planned for Game Pass (yes I know Infinite will be a part of that). Then again that's cross gen and they ain't about moving hw units anymore apparently sooo...it's kinda weird thinking about a new console launch with higher end specs where box sales aren't the primary goal. I mean I get it it's all about GP now and throwing as many people into their subscription ecosystem and platform agnosticism particularly with xCloud on mobile devices being a thing, but still, it's weird lol. I say all this as a huge GP evangelist too. More options are always a better thing though and I'm excited to see how MS grows the whole operation going into next gen.
Right now I'm playing all multiplats on Xbox One X. Looking forward to continuing this with Scarlet.
Shoutout to the people in this thread telling legitimate insiders their wrong because they heard some guy on this forum say some things and now what he says is gospel.
Keep fighting the good fight.
If you go into an argument saying you legitimately know something to be true and your source is someone who isn't credible then you're the one who's wrong
Keep fighting the good fight.
If you go into an argument saying you legitimately know something to be true and your source is someone who isn't credible then you're the one who's wrong
And how do you know he's not part of that other half? Like the ones who thought Lockhart was still a thing at E3?
It is running PC parts. Just because it doesn't have a PC like tower, doesnt mean the devkit we see isnt PC hardware targeted towards the specs of real hardware. Final devkits will come later where they will be using the same APU as the launch PS5
I don't wanna get into the exact details of who or who doesn't have dev kits as I don't know exactly how many studios have signed yet. But it's a small number, and only major studios will be involved right now. That will change early next year heading towards E3, but like Jason says of course regular devs are getting annoyed at the lack of info.
So your sources who say Sony has the more powerful box are the good sources, but the people who say hold on a minute this might not be true are wrong? Got it.
Imagine thinking Microsoft has truly given up on the idea of Lockhart.
No one is right or wrong till they both announce their console but unfortunately Tom got even most basic things wrong like he suggested name of Scarlett gpu is aructus when in fact we know aructus is not for Scarlett based on komachi and few others. So it's ok to ask him what his source is so we are all more clear :)
Oh look, it's the same exact shit that chased the other insiders away like Benji. You just can't help yourselves.
This lines up with what Tom is saying about availability.
No idea why folk are getting riled up over this, they simply have a different schedule and work pipeline for the hardware.
But komachi said they'll never comment on console stuff anymore because of console warriors, no?