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Tomoya Asano (Square Enix) apologizes for Bravely Second, is why the series took a break
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I hate to say it, but I'm starting to feel like Blackkite's translations aren't very good, like half the time the English barely makes sense. Like what is this?
"Fairy's Effect also made a very good start that it gave a pushing wind to us."
"We proceeded on developing Octopath Traveler with that introspection in our chests."
On topic: I'm surprised he apologized. I didn't think Bravely Second was that bad.
"Fairy's Effect also made a very good start that it gave a pushing wind to us."
"We proceeded on developing Octopath Traveler with that introspection in our chests."
On topic: I'm surprised he apologized. I didn't think Bravely Second was that bad.
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It sold much worse than the original but yeah I didn't think it was that bad. Maybe it's more of the japanese reception he's talking about?
It was a very cheap sequel that reused a lot from the first game. Considering one the biggest selling points for the original was it's production values for a 3DS game.
Have to believe it isn't Asano's fault that Second's budget appeared slashed compared to Default's, but this type of earnest sincerity with fans is why I love Team Asano.
I appreciate the candidness. I personally really didn't like Bravely Second, but a lot of that had to do with despising the soundtrack so much that I couldn't play with the sound on, which led to me just fizzling out on the game. That hasn't happened to me very often.
Big waste of potential. SE never believed in the game.
When the first one released in Japan, it had a load of shortages. Despite the hype in the West, they took their sweet time to localize it. They didn't even care to publish it. Despite that, it sold over a million units.
And yet, when they greenlit a sequel, they decided to give an even lower budget.
I recall reading that SE never planned to release the game worldwide and that Nintendo footed the bill.
I can't agree. The only part where it's unequivocally worse is the music. They made great strides in the battle/jobs system, greatly reduced the repetitive elements of the plot, and made a generally good sequel all around.
It's just a shame they didn't have the budget at the time to avoid having to reuse the world map (and dungeons? don't quite remember).
I'm still not entirely convinced they'll leave the sequel hook at the end of Second hanging, but will have to wait and see on that front.
Asano has said in the past that it wouldn't have been localised at all if Nintendo didn't pick it up, so that's an understatement if anything.
I might be wrong here, but i think that's also what happend with Collection of Mana in the end. SQEX only had plans for their "failed" Secret of Mana remake back then.
Surprising comment but I can see where he's coming from. This honestly seems like a roundabout admittance that SE really screwed them over. Second was an improvement in some regards over the original but a big step back in terms of budget and the soundtrack, which made the first one such a memorable experience for me. I guess at least the soundtrack was out of their hands with Revo being busy iirc.
That was my understanding as well, but I prefered to be cautious on my statement. In any case, it just shows how little faith they had and how much they limited the potential of the serie.
They still do this stuff. Octopath Traveller was also heavily supply constrained in Japan (the only region SE was actually in charge of publishing). The fact it managed to do as well as it did is in no small part down to Nintendo marketing and shipping enough of the product.
Second had a noticeable improvement in gameplay. A lot of the new jobs were incredible. The problem is that pretty much everything else felt like a downgrade from Default. Especially the music. Ryo from Supercell is not a bad composer, but he could not follow up to Revo's work in the original game at all.
technically the 3DS is a current gen system, albeit a dead one like the Vita or Wii U
but yes, they should port Default and Second to more modern systems. I'm honestly surprised we don't have Switch ports yet.
Usually Amazon.jp reviews are a pretty good analogue for Metacritic user scores in the rest of the world... but looking it up the Amazon.jp reviews aren't bad at all? I can only imagine this is an internal sentiment where they had expectations about how much people would like it, and maybe they feel like they strongly missed that bar? Not sure how to read this otherwise.
I wonder why. There's nothing (really) questionable in the game that would prevent a possible localization. Perhaps, as it was previously stated, SE didn't have any faith on the project and didn't want to spend more than the spare change they give to the developer.
I feel like if anything related to Bravely Default was deserving of an apology, it was the back half of BD1. An absolute slog, and it managed to transform one of what was becoming one of a friend's all-time favorite games into an utter trashfire in her eyes.
In that sense, it's no wonder that BD2 did worse. How many people did BD1 burn?
In that sense, it's no wonder that BD2 did worse. How many people did BD1 burn?
That's 100% why. It's also why we only got DQVIIR and DQVIII3D right at the end of the 3DS' life, Nintendo had to do their job for them.
That's such a weird thing to apologise for. Most people would say Second wasn't as good as Default, but very few would outright say it was bad or anything. I'd think it was well received overall.
Dang. Straight up apologizing for a game lacking quality. Could you imagine someone like Capcom apologizing for BoF6? Or DMC2, DMC4, DmC, RE6, RE3make, Umbrella Corps, MvC:I or Dead Rising 4? Or Konami for Vandal Hearts Flames of Judgment, the Suikoden spin-offs, Silent Hill HD Collection, Contra Rogue Corps or MGSurvive? Or even Square for FF13, FF15's canceled DLC, Xenogears' second half or Third Birthday? Japan does value apologies a lot, but it's not something you hear a lot from entertainment companies.
I like Second just as much as Default, but I understand why he is apologizing. The tone from Second was nothing like the one from Default, with the latter being a serious story with stakes and emotional turmoil. Second in comparison is like... a parody or something, just look at Ball Buster Magnolia or the MC obsessed with gravy. Very similar to the tone shift of FFX to X-2. Personally, I am fine with either and I thought both games executed their tone fairly well for what they were, but it definitely was a weird-ass direction to take.
I guess he could be talking about the music or the content reuse too, but I don't think that's worth apologizing.
I guess he could be talking about the music or the content reuse too, but I don't think that's worth apologizing.