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Too many of my friends trying Destiny 2 haven’t a clue on how to start the campaigns
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You are too kind on the Red War story. I'd have ranked it even lower.
But yes, the artists were picking up the slack. Gorgeous set dressing and visuals.
It's bizarre that they got rid of leveling and story progression. A normal game eases players in by introducing systems and mechanics piecemeal. In D2 almost everything is now available right off the bat. It does the game such a disservice.
What they should have done is to start the Red War (Vanilla D2 campaign) immediatelly after the Cosmodrome mission. Hell, the prologue mission even ends in a way you could tie with the start of D2 rather nicely, i was surprised Bungie didn't do that to begin with.
Yeah for sure. Putting the year 1 campaigns on Holliday [?!] was also a super weird thing to do. (Though at least she finally has a purpose beyond the occasional transmat effect conversion...)
I wasn't aware of the changes so when I saw the thread title I was like "what the hell are you talking about". That sounds pretty terrible.
That's completely fucked and a way bigger deal than making the starting point for the campaign obtuse imo.
Here's a good example. I just did The Invitation and the quest item says "Claim your reward from the Menagerie Triumph". I looked everywhere and had no clue what to do. I looked it up online:
It feels like every little system is presented in such a needlessly obtuse fashion.
It feels like every little system is presented in such a needlessly obtuse fashion.
I've just gone through the opening for the first time and I'm super baffled how they could make a game which is literally just straightforwardly shooting things so inaccessible. I feel like every piece of text I read is noun soup. It's like trying to read a novelisation of a Marvel film except it's got a steep learning curve because it's written by Steven Erikson.
I played Destiny 2 years ago on PS4, and haven't played since. Got the F2P PC version and holy crap, no clue what's going on. Bungie needs better onboarding, pronto.
It's the equivalent of being given a free car which is delivered in its constituent parts along with a foreign language instruction manual.
It is a bizarre way to jump back in. I haven't played since D1 vanilla. I figured out the campaign thing but it wasn't the most straightforward.
It is a bizarre way to jump back in. I haven't played since D1 vanilla. I figured out the campaign thing but it wasn't the most straightforward.
Haha, I went to the OT with this exact issue today. I was halfway through the Forsaken campaign, kind of dropped off Destiny a few months ago. I bought and installed Shadowkeep, and when I loaded it up i had absolutely NO idea how to pick up where I left off in Forsaken (which I wanted to finish before starting Shadowkeep).
Not only did I find out they wipe progress of unfinished campaigns, so I had to start it over, but they give you absolutely NO indication of how to do so. Forsaken especially is super obscure, because the one random woman in the tower who you go to for legacy content (which itself is never explained) only offers up the D2 vanilla, Warmind, and Osiris campaigns. Starting Forsake from scratch means going to Tangled Shore in the map screen and selecting the first quest, all of which is not explained at all to players.
It's really one of the most baffling moves, Bungie is usually quite good about layering new content on top of your current game state. This just resets everything and, if you're not there explicitly to start Shadowkeep, essentially just leaves you stranded without a map
Not only did I find out they wipe progress of unfinished campaigns, so I had to start it over, but they give you absolutely NO indication of how to do so. Forsaken especially is super obscure, because the one random woman in the tower who you go to for legacy content (which itself is never explained) only offers up the D2 vanilla, Warmind, and Osiris campaigns. Starting Forsake from scratch means going to Tangled Shore in the map screen and selecting the first quest, all of which is not explained at all to players.
It's really one of the most baffling moves, Bungie is usually quite good about layering new content on top of your current game state. This just resets everything and, if you're not there explicitly to start Shadowkeep, essentially just leaves you stranded without a map
I created a new character and goddamn it was a mess to see what was going on. It was weird as hell going from Cosmodrome to Tower 2.
I was gonna knock out the quests but they're so haphazard. Hey do a game of crucible! Try a strike! Gambit? Can't imagine how rough it must be for new folks
I was gonna knock out the quests but they're so haphazard. Hey do a game of crucible! Try a strike! Gambit? Can't imagine how rough it must be for new folks
Haha, yeah. I uninstalled both for the same reason. Shitty on-boarding that made me too aware that I'm wasting my time.
At least with Warframe the community sees the issue and is happy to help. In this thread you have Destiny 2 vets dropping in to deliver hot takes that people aren't reading the quest text properly.
I already played the original D2 campaign. Where do I go to play the new stuff for the F2P update? I'm not buying Shadowkeep.
i thought the beginning was pretty good and Ghaul seemed compelling. but then he never really showed up again until the end and they for some reason played the same cutscene with him, the speaker and the consul twice at different points in the story, giving me a big dejavu experience. why they did that i dunno (maybe a bug?)
also the comedy by clayde 6 feels so forced its not even funny in a bad way. one of the rare cases where i wish they played it straight
No it definitely wasn't implemented well at all. The order of the campaigns would be: Red War, Curse of Osiris, Warmind, Forsaken, and then Shadowkeep.
They're supposed to mark them on the destinations with a logo/descriptor for the corresponding campaigns.
I remember trying to play Destiny 1 and never finding out what was the correct order to do the missions or whatever, they were all over the map and never understood if there was a story at all in that game.
D2 for newcomers looks pretty fucking horrible, but I'm glad I got done with those campaign missions so long ago.
D2 for newcomers looks pretty fucking horrible, but I'm glad I got done with those campaign missions so long ago.
I had a charecter who I played all the year 1 content for and bought Forsaken but never got to it.
Should I start over at this point with a new charecter?
Should I start over at this point with a new charecter?
Destiny has always confused me and I've been playing since release. I bought Forsaken on the PS4 and didn't play it. I thought I could could jump into that on my Xbox one, but realized I can't. But, beyond that I just always find myself confused with what I'm supposed to do when playing destiny. Stopped playing because my friends moved on so I didn't finish Forsaken. Think I played more multiplayer than story or coop gameplay. The game is fun and when I'm playing I enjoy it. I just hate that I really don't know what the hell im doing most of the time. I want to buy Shadowkeep, but, I also want to play the previous expansions before I do. I need a group of friends to play with although I know most ppl have moved on to the new content...
The same cutscene never played twice. If it did for you, it was a weird bug.
You sound like me. What system do you have Forsaken on? I bought it on PS4, but want to play it and possibly move over to Xbox..
I had it happen on two quests that were amped up versions of story missions. Very odd. I assume something's bugged in the flags and it doesn't recognize said mission is not the "story version".
Holaupaminute
You don't get the golden goodies for playing the campaign? So I just wasted a half hour doing the Red War intro?
You don't get the golden goodies for playing the campaign? So I just wasted a half hour doing the Red War intro?
Yep, exactly what happened to me. Started D2 a long time ago and never came back to it. I still have character, but now everything has been completely gutted, campaign wise. Like, WTF!!??
The major issue I've had with coming back to Destiny 2 with each of the yearly expansions is that trying to figure out what the new stuff is how it's different from before can be really hard to parse since they rarely explain anything. They really need to add some sort of FAQ to the game to help explain what's going on.
Are you referring to the New Light quest that's given to you? Is that the one with references to D1 or do you mean the cosmodrome bit at the start?
Yes, I picked those up. But there's no indication how to pursue them, or in what order.
The order is whatever you want. Bungie made that clear that they want you to play the game however you want.
Canonically they are Red War -> Curse of Osiris -> Warmind -> Forsaken -> Shadowkeep
@op thanks for making this thread and letting me know there is a campaign. i was just doing random stuff with random people and wondering if that's what the game is all about. i also tried to google for things like "destiny 2 guide" but all i was getting were walkthroughs for specific missions.
It was definitely confusing and I've played D2 vanilla. I'm currently going through the original campaign (which unfortunately has been severely reduced), will then do the warmind and osiris stories. After that I'm worried cause I've got so much stuff unlocked that I don't even know what it is... I have forge, gambit, menagerie which I've never played. Which is both good and bad in a way, heaps of stuff to play but it's overwhelming.
This makes me really curious how Bungie will handle story content in the future.
There's so much dumb shit, like going to Titan and having access to the indoor arcology areas immediately. Yet if you do the Red War missions later on, the same area is closed and you have to cut open the door to get in.
The sense of immersion has completely left the game at this point. I don't feel like my character is part of the world and story of Destiny.
Which is a shame, because the Shadowkeep campaign has been pretty good so far in the story department.
There's so much dumb shit, like going to Titan and having access to the indoor arcology areas immediately. Yet if you do the Red War missions later on, the same area is closed and you have to cut open the door to get in.
The sense of immersion has completely left the game at this point. I don't feel like my character is part of the world and story of Destiny.
Which is a shame, because the Shadowkeep campaign has been pretty good so far in the story department.
Same here. Spent first 20 minutes wandering aimlessly. Even in the middle of a (story?) mission it kept stopping me to clear hive areas with randoms. So bizzare. Lots of fun but much of the time is spent going wth is happening right now.
They are in your quest tab.
And it's the order they are shown in Amanda's menu: 1, 2, 3.
Totally agree. Luckily I've played through the campaign so I've had that experience but they could have worked it for new players differently. Why wasn't there an option when creating a new character to experience the campaign and progression as originally intended? Unlocking skills, exotics, quest steps, cause as it is it's all so overwhelming.
They really should've treated New Light like a completely brand new entry to the series instead of a continuation of 2. "All this other story stuff happened at one point, but this is where the world is at"
Shadowkeep by itself isn't strong enough of a story to carry that, but I feel like it would've made things a lot more confusing.
For what it's worth, I'm enjoying my time with the game so far. Even if I was confused at first.
These campaign environments and cutscenes look expensive. Not sure why they would try to hide them from new players.
I still don't understand why the pilot is who you talk to for legacy content. Shouldn't there be a historian who could frame previous missions?
These campaign environments and cutscenes look expensive. Not sure why they would try to hide them from new players.
I still don't understand why the pilot is who you talk to for legacy content. Shouldn't there be a historian who could frame previous missions?
It's disjointed because you are reliving things that the world already moved past.
Your character was created and exists "canonically" in the post-Forsaken world. Shadowkeep and everything after it will be "happening" with your character around and the world he is in now will change with that.