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Top NFL QB Prospect Josh Allen’s offensive high school tweets unearthed
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I think you are over thinking it how about not being a racist pos and life will be simpler for them?
People saying he should have cleaned up his social media... Reality is you really can't clean up your social media anymore. There are services that track when old tweets on famous (ish) accounts are deleted, constantly comparing tweet counts and then looking for what tweets are missing from an archive and where the count changed, and so going back and deleting old tweets will unearth them sooner if you're mildly famous. If you tweeted something when you were 16, and you're famous at 21, that shit is coming out. Best thing you can do is just own up to it when it comes out and prove how you've changed, if you've changed.
Or... I know this is crazy... but how about this: instead of needing to "scrub" their accounts, we address the real issue and work on people raising their kids not to be racist idiots?
But see that's the thing, there are some people on this board already arguing "kids say the dumbest things" and I would like to know is that right or fair?
This is why I would advocate a massive boycott of the NFL. If the black players refused to play, I think the owners would be forced to change.
Hey, everyone who is in college, about to embark on 'real actual life', if you have any concern about your social media hurting your chances to, like, have a job and a future, delete it all, and start new. Is there anything in there you'd be embarrassed to show your grandmother, or have on the local news/?? Delete it all.
It's easier said than done. A lot of these players are made to focus on nothing but football from the time they are like 12. They are told it's their only chance at a livlyhood, and with football careers being so short, they have to get their money while they can.
You mean like a union strike? Because the NFLPA is by far the weakest in professional sports due to short careers and non guaranteed contracts.
I agree that is what needs to happen but for many this is their livelihood and they cannot miss a paycheck.
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The hardest part isn't the stars but the brick and mortar players. They can't afford to miss checks.
I would kill to see it happen. The NFL owners need to have their plantation mentality eliminated. But the amount of resolve needed tlby the players would be staggering.
Kids need to delete all social media and start new accounts when they go into sports or fame of any kind. Hell, I don't use social media but if I do I'll be starting new accounts so any future prospective employers don't skip me for my social media posts.
Hard to look millions in mouth and walk away from it. No more struggles for your family, can put kids through school, buy mom and dad the house they always wanted and still have more than enough to live it up. I can't blame them for struggling to decide how to address it all
Hard to look millions in mouth and walk away from it. No more struggles for your family, can put kids through school, buy mom and dad the house they always wanted and still have more than enough to live it up. I can't blame them for struggling to decide how to address it all
Shrugs at 16 and still sprouting such shit? What do you think? Maybe saying stupid shit and having consequences isn't such a bad thing is it?
As if it isn't possible to be young, dumb, and racist.
Separate issues. Not in this instance, but plenty of NFL prospects tweet out things that are just genuinely stupid kid things that could do with some scrubbing.
This situation with Allen ain't that, but a lot of these niggas could absolutely use a Twitter/social media cleanse before they step into the spotlight.
He apologized and does not appear to have said anything bad since. Should he be punished for the rest of his life for saying dumb shit in high school?
See this is why a lot of these players need to really take advantage of their free rides to college. Granted, the job market isn't going to be kind to these guys whether they get a degree or not, but you'd think they'll have more of an "in" than your average joe in the job market. Also, and I know it's not really their fault, there should be courses dedicated to teaching them how to finance their money better. This is frustrating...
Slight derail, but Calvin Johnson did it the right way. Get in, get your millions, save it, retire at 30.
Rest of his life just so he will not be first pick ? A tad over dramatic aren't you?
They are often not able to take advantage of college. When you are 19 and your coach is telling you which classes to take so that you can keep your gpa up and stay eligible, what are you going to do?
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I don't want anything to happen to the guy. I mean I think he should play football. He was a teen at the time.
Now all that said, kind of gross to see some handwaiving away at racism because "football". He absolutely should be called out and expected to answer for it, if he has changed, then he needs to show it. His fans and ticket buyers are going to be paying for him to play and many will be Black nevermind most of his teammates. I was a kid too and I didn't throw the N word around, and keep in mind I come from a strong conservative family.
Now all that said, kind of gross to see some handwaiving away at racism because "football". He absolutely should be called out and expected to answer for it, if he has changed, then he needs to show it. His fans and ticket buyers are going to be paying for him to play and many will be Black nevermind most of his teammates. I was a kid too and I didn't throw the N word around, and keep in mind I come from a strong conservative family.
Advanced draft strategy in the social media age to have this stuff suddenly become news this close to the draft.
We all know teams don't give two shits but the potential "public perception concerns" could make someone buckle and let a high prospect fall.
It's about as much of a game as how ESPN will be touting Baker Mayfield's "character concerns" when coincidentally he refused to have cameras in his home for live shots of him and his family during the draft.
We all know teams don't give two shits but the potential "public perception concerns" could make someone buckle and let a high prospect fall.
It's about as much of a game as how ESPN will be touting Baker Mayfield's "character concerns" when coincidentally he refused to have cameras in his home for live shots of him and his family during the draft.
It is not just financial education. They are very unlikely to land a job that is comperable paywise. They will make more money in their short NFL careers than the vast majority of the population will in a lifetime.
Honestly? I think words do indeed have consequences and people should be called on them. Maybe if these kids see that whatever they post online can come back on them and maybe challenge their prospective opportunities then they would probably think twice about that slur, or turn of phrase, or obscenity. However, if it isn't a reflection of their current character, they should have every opportunity to explain themselves or even atone for past transgressions.
How long should dumb shit he said as a teenager on Twitter follow him and impact his life then?
If he wants this to go away, it's like someone said earlier: own up to the tweets, apologize, and say that's not who he is anymore.
He'll be fine. In about three months all of Cleveland is going to hate LeBron again too once he ditches that shithole.
Hardly shocking given the type of shit they all overlook when making picks.
Wouldn't be surprised if he still remained a first - third round draft pick and this had no impact on it at all.
I mean you all saying it was stupid shit said as a kid and the context was cringy love shit (like I did when my ex was away) I would agree but you fucking now at the age of 10 that these things isn't ok.
He can have changed but even at that age he knew better.
He can have changed but even at that age he knew better.
Also, it's as if being young, dumb and racist precludes you from being older, smarter and not racist. What he said was terrible and stupid, it doesn't mean a 21 year old holds the same maturity level and world views as their 15 year old self.
With that said, his draft stock needs to fall, he shouldn't ever have been in top 5 consideration anyway.
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And yet Kap took a knee to protest social injustice and he is blacklisted.
Okay lol
How should I know? In this specific case he lose his chance at being the number onepick? Will he be out on the streets cause of it? Or should shit you say on Twitter at 16 should be devoid of consequences?
In the back of my mind I knew that this was a reason why. Just having the opportunity to play for the NFL is a blessing in and of itself and to do so while getting paid money that you could only dream of is the icing on the cake. These players won the lottery essentially, but it's a Faustian bargain at the expensive of their health, well-being, their humanity. It's just another example of black bodies being used for monetary gain and not of their own doing. What's the point of being knocked senseless if your team owner thinks of you as no more than a stud?
Ah yes the "its only racist because its taken out of context"
Seriously. Like its so obvious this wont have impact on his draft status. Hes a white guy espousing racism. The nfl has no problem with that, especially for someone at the QB position.
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He won't be going first.
Baker Mayfield seems to be the first pick. Every single outlet is reporting it.
He was like 16 and said "if it ain't white it ain't right" in response to someone asking about why his skin is so white. And a lot of those were just song lyrics that had the n-word in them. That's what out of context means, dude.
There's a difference between insensitive and overtly racist. I and almost everyone I knew said insensitive stuff all of the time when I was 16.
I honestly thought Kizer would be pretty good if he could've sat for a couple years (assuming he had a compenent QB coach). Hue Jackson butchered the QB situation. Again.
No one's saying he can't have grown up since then. It's just troubling the lengths people go to deny there's a chance that behavior is a symptom of beliefs he could still hold.
Racists aren't some mythical beasts we tell children of color about to scare them; they're real, and it should be on Allen to prove that he's not counted among them after discovering he certainly was as a teenager. I'm not judging him guilty or not, but my real world experience tells me behavior like that doesn't tend to just disappear, especially in white folks who've been as privileged as he is.
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I hope they take Darnold. I know it's being reported everywhere that it's gonna be Baker, but I don't wanna see Baker waste away there.
I personally think Darnold is gonna be a busy so of rather him go to the Browns .
Kap isn't very good. Ironically he has a pretty similar makeup to Allen, immense athlete with great arm strength and speed with poor decision making and the accuracy of a scud missile.
If Kap was say Russel Wilson or Cam Newton in the same position, he'd have a team. Given how polarizing Kap is with the American public, not even NFL teams, for a low tier starting QB or a backup he isn't worth the investment for most teams. Brandon Marshall has been similarly outspoken and controversial, yet he is gainfully employed with the Broncos because he's actually a good player.
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Kap isn't being shunned because of his skill. He is being shunned because of his refusal to stop fighting for social change.
Kap is better than 90% of the backups in the league. He deserves to be on a team, but the league is blackballing him